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Those are most likely buildings, so unless you intend to hire a crew to somehow dig up and transport the thing back into our territory we'd need to then have the Count expend resources guarding it. And then it'd probably just get blown up by a one of the other mercs' fighters anyway. I think there's already some in our territory so this isn't urgent, but it's one more thing that'd be nice to not have to rely on the locals for. e: if they ARE trucks then fuckit, let's send our squad of overpaid dropouts to jack one.
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I do like how our PMC plans acquisitions like a D&D party.
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Operation: Swipe a Scope We secure the radar site location by paratroopers. Land our C-130 on a long enough and flat enough dirt road, pack up the radar trucks onto the C-130, then fly it out of there.
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Quinntan posted:I do like how our PMC plans acquisitions like a D&D party. D&D parties are PMCs themselves, if you think about it.
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Apr 20, 2017 23:41
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Quinntan posted:I do like how our PMC plans acquisitions like a D&D party. Im already looking up islands for when we hit level 9. Hint: it had a mercenary attempted coup in 1981
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Apr 20, 2017 23:41
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Is it the same one Margaret Thatcher's son was involved in trying to coup?
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Apr 20, 2017 23:44
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Quinntan posted:Is it the same one Margaret Thatcher's son was involved in trying to coup? Wasn't that in Africa, not an island?
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Quinntan posted:Is it the same one Margaret Thatcher's son was involved in trying to coup? That was Equatorial Guinea, which is my second choice 
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Apr 20, 2017 23:50
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Loel posted:That was Equatorial Guinea, which is my second choice Was it whatever island Mad Mike Hoare and his group tried to take over?
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Zaodai posted:Was it whatever island Mad Mike Hoare and his group tried to take over? Correct! Seychelles, population 100,000. Has international airport, is east of Africa and South of the Persian Gulf, and most importantly, has a history of coups and working with the CIA. To be honest, we just need the airport/military base. Lease it to us for 99 years or something.
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Loel posted:Correct! I actually compiled a handy list of possible places to get bases awhile back... Jimmy4400nav posted:Luckily we have quite a few options we could turn to without even needing the coup a country. I'm personally pretty partial to seeing if the Indians would be partial to us going halvsies on their Assumption Island base as it will have the port and airport for all kinds of fun ops.
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What I also like about Seychelles is that we get to fight Somali pirates  Edit: Assumption island is near goddamn perfect. Loel fucked around with this message at 00:02 on Apr 21, 2017 |
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Getting the operating contract for Diego Garcia would mean that we could
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I think Id like a permanant base at Assumption, and have long term transit rights to Diego Garcia. That way we can do a lot of our own building, but bounce to south Asia if need be.
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With all the talk of what SMARF and the Sultan had in terms of air forces, we never really looked at Angola's capability, and oh boy is it a doozy. On top of the new F-16s there's also a bunch of Su-30MK's on strength. Of this lot, I can also see the Su-22s and Su-25s still being on strength, with the F-16s taking over from the Fishbeds and Floggers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Air_Force_of_Angola#Current_inventory
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Blah I keep missing the chance for votes. I was going to change vote to Zach under the condition that we get a chance to get Rohan later. 
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lol at all these soft weaklings wanting "permanent bases". We should basically just be an aerial version of the Mongolian horde
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Agean90 posted:lol at all these soft weaklings wanting "permanent bases". We should basically just be an aerial version of the Mongolian horde Not until we get our Skycaptain flying aircraft carrier.
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Agean90 posted:lol at all these soft weaklings wanting "permanent bases". We should basically just be an aerial version of the Mongolian horde Gotta find some place to build us our flying carrier first. Then we can get our inner Ace Combat on. Until then we have to land every so often because tankers aren't some wild grazing sky cattle we can just fly up to and suckle on their gas filled teats.
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Creating  er Heaven sounds like an amazing idea.Also, I was thinking, that 737 Wedgetail is the biggest threat to our forces so we need to neutralize it. Was thinking something along these lines; 1. Send in goon ground forces at night to airport where 737 is parked. Include 2 or 3 pilots in the ground element. 2. Ground forces crash through airport fence in Geo Metro, take 737. Pilots fly it back to our base. 3. As a contingency plan, a small force of Phantoms screams in a low altitude with orders to paste the gently caress out of the 737 with 500 pound bombs if it isn't ours. If it is, they drop them on the aircraft parking and get the gently caress out. 4. Scramble all our Gripens and other A2A poo poo to escort the 737 back to base. 5. Gee Goons, how come Yooper lets you have 2 AWACS?
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LostCosmonaut posted:Creating Jets aren't a turn the key and off you go sort of thing. A 737 would take, at best, 15 minutes to go from cold start to taking off, and that's assuming we don't need to gas them up before they go. It isn't feasable.
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Apr 21, 2017 01:26
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Cluster munitions on all of the enemy airfields.
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I'm also pretty sure they'd have at least one guy with an AT rocket that would rather disable it than let us keep it. As much as a permanent base would be neat I kinda want to see us keep accumulating more and more aircraft and just showing up at some tiny airport and going "ok, we need space for 58 fighters, 6 cargo aircraft, 4 tankers ..." e: no clusters! We're supposed to be the good guys 
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Coffeehitler posted:Cluster munitions on all of the enemy airfields. Good username post combo. More seriously, yeah, let's not be the problem.
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Quinntan posted:Jets aren't a turn the key and off you go sort of thing. A 737 would take, at best, 15 minutes to go from cold start to taking off, and that's assuming we don't need to gas them up before they go. It isn't feasable. Have you considered that it would be  ?
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Best way to deal with the AWACS is to set up the M60 at the end of the runway and rattle off a belt into the cockpit when the plane rotates
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Unfortunately Koolkev, Rohan already has a wingman named Silent Bob, her hetero life mate. Mission #1  Right now we have three main issues, along with a shitload of other issues. How we respond to these three will dictate how the front moves. If we can accomplish all three, then yay. If we can't there will be issues. Right now Angolan ground forces are making a concerted push on Menongue with a mechanized group. To the west, and very near to us, are some Astros II MLRS Launchers. Finally the aid convoys are moving about delivering, erm, aid. The Dictator is likely to push and try and destroy those columns if possible. Until we came the front was pretty static. Von Hoff's units lacked the strength to take over government positions and The Dictator's Troops didn't really care what Von Hoff did as he possessed some dirt, more dirt, and an elephant. Once again it seems like the moment a professional military organization walks in people get excited. But first off, our objectives.  This angry looking little truck delivers 300mm rockets. It delivers them surprisingly accurately. Guess where they're headed? In range of Lubango Airfield. Oh hey, that's where we live. In addition they have support units to push just close enough so these guys can get off a volley. These things drop enough ordnance in one salvo to equal what our entire air wing dropped on Lhasa. Think about that.  The T-55 is a lovely tank. But it's an awesome loving tank when the other side doesn't have one. In addition they've got some creaky old BMPs and other weird old Soviet armored junk. Our ground troops are pretty bad rear end, but it's tough gently caress up a tank with a rifle. It's a stretch to Menongue, 283 miles. Our SK60B's lack the legs. And in between is a nice open stretch that leads right to our next objective.  Trucks. Filled with food. And Aid, and probably not vodka. They are delivering that poo poo to various collection points where it'll get distributed and not lead to another heart wrenching, Pulitzer prize winning photo. You know the one. Seeing as the infrastructure is pretty loving terrible we need to cover these guys for awhile. RECON No, not the idiots who had the thunderdome, but our birds. We can send up the S100B, take a peak, and drop back down. There's no threat, it's a gimme so you guys know where the hostiles might have SAM's or Radar. But these people aren't dumb. They won't leave every radar on the country running for our convenience. They might even pulse them on and off. Once I'm all done building the entirety of Angola  I'll send up a plane and show you guys what to be seen. For now we get intel from the grunts, so if they're in contact, we'll know about it. Planning scenario inbound when it's done. It's mission time Hired Goons!
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It would be up to the point when the whole airframe is shredded by rifle fire as you taxi out to the runway.
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Thunderdome has already resulted in a broken shinbone. Working as intended.
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Okay, broad strokes plan that someone will eventually do better than me: MLRS Issues: Sk60s + maybe a Tornado or 2 in case they have AAA moving with them + Gripen air cover. Maybe if we have a few rockets left over we can drop by a nearby radar to say "hi." Convoy: Did someone say Gripens? Cause that's what's going to be happening there. Tanks: I'd err towards the Tornadoes on this one too, maybe bring in the Frogfoots depending on the intel we get.
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Welp. Two tornadoes to the MLRS site, one with HARMs, one with an MW-1. HARM watches for SAMs, the other obliterates the battery with bomblets. If there's anything left, the Sk60s roll in and do their thing. 8 Gripens assigned to top cover for the aid convoy and dealing with the enemy armour, the Su-25s and Hawks on suppression of the tank convoy. Send a pair of tornadoes too, again as SEAD platforms. Phantoms are held back, ready to act against either element as required. I don't think all eight would be required, but you never know. Arm them with Mavericks. VC-10 tops up fuel of the CAP, while big pig is sent up after the Phantoms if they're needed to act as a recovery platform. I'll make a fancy version of this with a map and names and everything later, it'll be great.
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Odds are the MLRS site would have IR SAM rather than radar. Definitely agreed on the SEAD overwatch for the Frogfoot armor strike. poo poo, a Reaper at high altitude could probably pick off the Astros one by one, were it not for the threat of scrambled fighters.
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We need to take care of ourselves before the aid trucks, so I'd prefer more assets taking out the artillery and BMPs than guarding the trucks.
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Tythas posted:we should hit the MLRS site with our grippens and their SDB's from range since we can launch those from our side of the line You might get the launchers themselves that way, but an MLRS launcher is really just a truck with a lot of tubes, they're not super hard to replace. Now, if you saturate the area with 2600 bomblets, you're likely to get a bunch of support vehicles, stuff like reloaders and ammunition trucks, as well as the valuable support crews. Plus, they're quite close to the front line so when we capture the area we can get the NGOs that deal with minefield clearing to clear the area of UXO.
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I will not be voting for anything with cluster munitions, just on flavour principle
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Quinntan posted:You might get the launchers themselves that way, but an MLRS launcher is really just a truck with a lot of tubes, they're not super hard to replace. Now, if you saturate the area with 2600 bomblets, you're likely to get a bunch of support vehicles, stuff like reloaders and ammunition trucks, as well as the valuable support crews. Plus, they're quite close to the front line so when we capture the area we can get the NGOs that deal with minefield clearing to clear the area of UXO. Agreed. Cluster weapons are a valuable tool perfect for this kind of target. Just have to be certain that this strike is nowhere near a civilian settlement for PR.
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Quinntan posted:You might get the launchers themselves that way, but an MLRS launcher is really just a truck with a lot of tubes, they're not super hard to replace. Now, if you saturate the area with 2600 bomblets, you're likely to get a bunch of support vehicles, stuff like reloaders and ammunition trucks, as well as the valuable support crews. Plus, they're quite close to the front line so when we capture the area we can get the NGOs that deal with minefield clearing to clear the area of UXO. depends on the type of MLRS if it is the exact one from the picture https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astros_II_MLRS than you can't simply just put the rockets in random tubes also these MLRS are in range of hitting are airbase which should make them high priority for us Tythas fucked around with this message at 02:27 on Apr 21, 2017 |
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Quinntan posted:Welp. Maybe send the Reaper to follow the convoy with the optics suite loaded since it's got ludicrous endurance and it can lazily follow them around while watching for stuff to show up. Just needs fighter escort. "Just". Anything with a shitload of individual targets sounds like we should send the Su25s at it with the Vikhrs mounted. Otherwise I'm not sure what's the most individual munitions we can fire off in one strike without having to resort to clusters on day loving one.
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Please note the MLRS is probable the Astros II (yooper can we confirm this) if it is here is some info on it's deployment. The Astros II are normally grouped in artillery batteries consisting on average of about 13 vehicles: 6 of them are Astros II launchers, 6 are rocket resupply trucks and 1 a special radar-equipped vehicle controlling the fire-control system
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