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the most dangerous PMC of all: the People's Military of China
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Koorisch posted:After this kind of punishment the Dictator is definitly going to bring out all the big guns though, probably going to hire in a real nasty PMC to deal with us. Honestly, what PMC would want to go against us? We've already crippled the Angolan Air Force and the Sultan's First. If I was running a PMC, I'd think long and hard about whether I'd take a contract in Angola right now.
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Apr 30, 2017 13:17
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Quinntan posted:Honestly, what PMC would want to go against us? We've already crippled the Angolan Air Force and the Sultan's First. If I was running a PMC, I'd think long and hard about whether I'd take a contract in Angola right now. A desperate one or one which is looking to make a name. I'd say, let them! 
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Apr 30, 2017 13:21
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on the other hand, mercenaries aren't famous for good long-term thinking when there's money to be made.
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Koorisch posted:After this kind of punishment the Dictator is definitly going to bring out all the big guns though, probably going to hire in a real nasty PMC to deal with us. Yooper I think you forgot to change the color of the airfield Mbeke siezed.
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Apr 30, 2017 13:24
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For procurement I'm going to restate my earlier suggestion, four tornadoes, one prowler and one MQ-9 Edit: further down the road I'd like to pick up an IFR-capable AEW&C aircraft. Quinntan fucked around with this message at 13:56 on Apr 30, 2017 |
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Apr 30, 2017 13:26
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I think if we're having trouble with swarms of third gen fighters then we need to get some fifth gen ones then.
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Apr 30, 2017 13:32
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Is this going to be available on YouTube later
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Apr 30, 2017 13:53
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Quinntan posted:Considering lost aircraft, we made a real profit of $22,945,000 from that mission Is the lithium profit included in the bonus?
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Apr 30, 2017 13:56
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MrYenko posted:Is this going to be available on YouTube later Just click on the H-G logo in Yooper's post.
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Apr 30, 2017 14:01
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 pre:Ivanov 4 - SU-25 Frogfoot A https://wiki.baloogancampaign.com/index.php/DataAircraft?ID=2513/ 1 - Tetal II Corvette http://cmano-db.com/ship/985/ 1- MIG25 https://wiki.baloogancampaign.com/index.php/DataAircraft?ID=2434 K&P 2 - Saudi Tornado https://wiki.baloogancampaign.com/index.php/DataAircraft?ID=3894/ 2 - AMX A.11 https://wiki.baloogancampaign.com/index.php/DataAircraft?ID=947/ 2 - Mirage F.1CR https://wiki.baloogancampaign.com/index.php/DataAircraft?ID=3725/ BFLM 1 - F-111 https://wiki.baloogancampaign.com/index.php/DataAircraft?ID=161/ 1 - F-15SA https://wiki.baloogancampaign.com/index.php/DataAircraft?ID=2780/ 2 - F-5E Tiger II https://wiki.baloogancampaign.com/index.php/DataAircraft?ID=183/ . Willie 3 - Jaguar IM https://wiki.baloogancampaign.com/index.php/DataAircraft?ID=3815/ $87,000,000 You get to choose one of the three options, or Wild Willie's. You can choose to not take everything from a supplier and I'll adjust the price accordingly. But you can only choose one supplier. It's more fun to try and struggle with what we have, rather than what we want. I try to take into account what people would like to have while not giving you everything you'd want. Now I'm off to go trout fishing! If you decide to buy the boat, I'll make sure there's opportunities to
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Apr 30, 2017 14:01
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:Is the lithium profit included in the bonus? Nope, separate. Herbert says, "the Current Balance is $250,000,000 yo motherfucka." Yooper fucked around with this message at 14:06 on Apr 30, 2017 |
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Apr 30, 2017 14:02
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K&P ain't led us wrong yet, and we need to replace some strike losses.
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Apr 30, 2017 14:08
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BFLM, all of it, no question. e: honestly I'd be fine with any of this though I think the Ivanovs' is the least useful (and I have no idea wtf to do with that boat), I just really want an Aardvark, that F-15 can mount all kinds of weird poo poo, and the F5-E variant in question can actually mount BVR missiles! power crystals fucked around with this message at 14:15 on Apr 30, 2017 |
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Apr 30, 2017 14:08
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Frogfeet and a BOTE!!!!! Hell yes. IVANOV
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Apr 30, 2017 14:12
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K&P, it's got the most utility for us.
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Apr 30, 2017 14:12
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God I want that F-111 but there's only one of them and those Saudi Tornadoes have the ALARM so: K&P
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Apr 30, 2017 14:22
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BFLM for my vote. That F-15SA is a monster. After seeing our HARMs get shot out of the air, I'm once again an advocate for SDB's as our main SEAD weapon. A bit shorter range, but jamming should have us covered. Dandywalken fucked around with this message at 14:28 on Apr 30, 2017 |
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Apr 30, 2017 14:25
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And now I pontificate on our optionspre:Ivanov 4 - SU-25 Frogfoot A https://wiki.baloogancampaign.com/index.php/DataAircraft?ID=2513/ 1 - Tetal II Corvette http://cmano-db.com/ship/985/ 1- MIG25 https://wiki.baloogancampaign.com/index.php/DataAircraft?ID=2434 The corvette has bugger all for actual weapons bar some very short ranged torpedoes, and any anti-ship missile from the shittiest missile boat will be able to destroy it The Foxbat is only for dropping unguided bombs, and we really don't like unguided bombs. pre:K&P 2 - Saudi Tornado https://wiki.baloogancampaign.com/index.php/DataAircraft?ID=3894/ 2 - AMX A.11 https://wiki.baloogancampaign.com/index.php/DataAircraft?ID=947/ 2 - Mirage F.1CR https://wiki.baloogancampaign.com/index.php/DataAircraft?ID=3725/ The AMX is a cheap little strike bird, much in the same vein as the Hawks we already have The Mirage also fits into that niche pre:BFLM 1 - F-111 https://wiki.baloogancampaign.com/index.php/DataAircraft?ID=161/ 1 - F-15SA https://wiki.baloogancampaign.com/index.php/DataAircraft?ID=2780/ 2 - F-5E Tiger II https://wiki.baloogancampaign.com/index.php/DataAircraft?ID=183/ The Tigers are not what we want. They're only utility for us is in the air-to-air role because we've so far proven to be very reluctant to use unguided bombs, and in the air to air role they're also very limited. The Aardvark is also... not great. It can toss a shitload of unguided bombs, but have we dropped a single one so far? Beyond that, they only carry a pair of Paveways or Popeyes or maybe four Harpoons, but we've decided that anti-ship strikes are to be carried out by Gripens. The only real standout is the F-15SA, with its AESA radar and good complement of precision munitions. Ultimately though, I think we get better value from K&P . pre:Willie 3 - Jaguar IM https://wiki.baloogancampaign.com/index.php/DataAircraft?ID=3815/ $87,000,000
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Apr 30, 2017 14:28
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Apr 30, 2017 14:44
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K&P all the way! The reasons have been well told by Quinntan. They are good replacements/upgrades for the fleet. Also the tornado's can carry 12 Brimstones! The American package only gives 1 of both the good planes. And that's not that usefull for our operations. With the Ruskies only the Frogfoot's/Frogfeet are interesting (those scallions!). However the tornado's also carry a good anti-tank missile so I would still stick with K&P. What Willie offers isn't that great either beside for antiship, which the Gripens can handle, just ask the Chinese.
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Apr 30, 2017 14:47
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Quinntan posted:The Aardvark is also... not great. It can toss a shitload of unguided bombs, but have we dropped a single one so far? Beyond that, they only carry a pair of Paveways or Popeyes or maybe four Harpoons, but we've decided that anti-ship strikes are to be carried out by Gripens. Yeah, if we want to live the F-111 dream we need to magically find some USAF F-111Fs that someone has stashed in a barn somewhere, the Australian Cs are... not so good.
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Apr 30, 2017 14:49
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Apr 30, 2017 14:58
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K&P without a doubt.
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Apr 30, 2017 14:59
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Those ex-Saudi Tornadoes are really, really versatile, plus AMX and Mirages are useful strike assets. Those two Tornadoes can unload 24 Brimstones from 16 miles away and wipe out a tank company each in a single sortie. They can also kill radars, shut down runways with JP233s, and even kill ships. So we really want those. Everything else is really mediocre except for that F-15SA, but we can only get one. So voting for K&P
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Apr 30, 2017 15:05
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K&P Euro-planes have done good so far, i see no reason to miss out on more. Also holy poo poo that last mission.
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Apr 30, 2017 15:05
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 OK, K&P is probably the best choice here - even if the others contained some of my childhood favourites. David Corbett fucked around with this message at 15:16 on Apr 30, 2017 |
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Apr 30, 2017 15:07
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Its got to be K+P for me: Tornados with ALARM, Brimstone, and stormshadow? they'd be veeery useful when the dictator makes another push. And hey, when we get bored of them, load em up with some JP233s, and go on a suicide run to someones airfield. Cause it worked so well in GW1  The AMX and Mirage would make handy aditions also
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Apr 30, 2017 15:14
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I much prefer this method Yooper; thanks! And with Quinntan's arguments I vote for K&P
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Apr 30, 2017 15:14
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Oh god drat it the one time we're offered a boat, it's borderline worthless and has a huge opportunity cost  As much as it pains me to pass on Boatse, K&P.
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Apr 30, 2017 15:14
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K&P, but I still think we should try to pick up some F-111Fs (preferably more than one at once)
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Apr 30, 2017 15:23
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So the boat is tempting, but there isn't really a choice beyond K&P, right? Also I (Hard Pink) had a really good mission - after all, I must have been high as balls to not eject as my pilot (Crusader) ran our Vietnam-era Jet, armed with only guns, at a fully functional loving Flanker! What the christ?!
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Apr 30, 2017 15:26
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Quinntan posted:Indian-built anti-ship Jaguars. Other than a pair of Harpoons, no precision guided ordinance. C'mon Willie, you're breaking my heart here. You couldn't have found ex-RAF ones? You know, I want to point something out: Why is this an option when nobody asked for it? We might want to read between the lines on this one...
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Apr 30, 2017 15:24
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I asked for Jaguars ages ago when I was begging for Eurotrash jets (we need more Eurotrash jets)
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Apr 30, 2017 15:28
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simplefish posted:I asked for Jaguars ages ago when I was begging for Eurotrash jets (we need more Eurotrash jets) Yeah but there's a ton of Jaguar variants out there and nobody's expressed a (non-joking) interest in sinking more ships that I'm aware of.
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Apr 30, 2017 15:30
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I've also been eyeing up Jags for a good while. A shame they're not British or French ones.power crystals posted:Yeah but there's a ton of Jaguar variants out there and nobody's expressed a (non-joking) interest in sinking more ships that I'm aware of. They and the Indian IS Jags (identical apart from the lack of Harpoons) are the only ones currently in service
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Apr 30, 2017 15:29
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K&P seems to give us the most bang for our buck and replaces everything we've lost.
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Apr 30, 2017 15:30
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 The Sultan has an update for us. (Thanks to Jimmy400nav for putting this, and a few other surprises together) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r96fewjT1lA Yooper fucked around with this message at 18:48 on Apr 30, 2017 |
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Apr 30, 2017 15:38
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Quinntan posted:I've also been eyeing up Jags for a good while. A shame they're not British or French ones. Yup, the RAF Jags went to become ground crew training airframes a long time ago. They'll have been run up and taxied daily, but thy've been taken apart that many times they're probably worn out by now
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Got to go with K&P. Between the ARMs, Cruise Missiles, and Brimstones, the Tornadoes are really flexible. The others I could take or leave, but they aren't bad aircraft. Although if we could buy more than 1 F-15, I'd be tempted.
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