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xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

I got both barrels from a semi the other day for letting a car merge in stopped traffic.

Never having been in a semi I'm not sure what visibility they have in the area near the front right tire, but there was a long line of cars trying to enter the highway and I know he's got mirrors. But instead of letting anyone in he stayed glued to my bumper until there was literally no pavement left, so I came to a full stop to let a guy in.

gently caress off trucker, we're all on the same side in a traffic jam.

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ilmucche
Mar 16, 2016

nitrogen posted:

God forbid I keep a decent following distance between me and the car in front of me during wet conditions!

Some type-A asshat was behind me in rather full traffic honking at me like crazy because I refused to ride the rear end of the guy in front of me.

I like the guys who are close enough you can't see their headlights in the rain on twisty roads. Hope you don't ever need to brake!

Murphys Law
Nov 1, 2005

xzzy posted:

I got both barrels from a semi the other day for letting a car merge in stopped traffic.

Never having been in a semi I'm not sure what visibility they have in the area near the front right tire, but there was a long line of cars trying to enter the highway and I know he's got mirrors. But instead of letting anyone in he stayed glued to my bumper until there was literally no pavement left, so I came to a full stop to let a guy in.

gently caress off trucker, we're all on the same side in a traffic jam.

Ya, I don't get the thinking of people who are aggressively against letting anybody merge in front of them, even in stop and go traffic at the end of an on-ramp. A few weeks ago, getting off 95 onto 32 it was some rear end in a top hat in a work van who would lurch forward to almost hit the car in front of him, and never back off more than a few inches from that car's bumper to avoid, at all cost letting me in front of him.

At first I thought he was just inching forward with everybody else waiting for the merge ahead to sort itself out. And it was an unusually successful zipper merge. Nobody merged early for a change and the right lane and on-ramp got along great! Until this guy.

So it was basically that lane went, this lane went, that lane, this lane, that lane, this lane, that lane, this lane, that lane, this lane, that lane, this lane, that lane, THAT LANE BECAUSE gently caress YOU!!! I looked over at him like "really?" and then he started gesturing all angrily at me as if I'd just unreasonably tried to cut him off forcing him to slam on his brakes from a perfectly fine travel lane and he hadn't just watched two entire lines of traffic alternating without a hitch before that point. So I got behind him, and I guess his day was better for it.

What are people thinking when they do this? In their heads, what does this accomplish? Has this somehow saved them any time? Are they punishing people who look like somebody who pissed them off earlier? Is it just for the satisfaction of being a dick to a complete stranger and nothing more than that?

Murphys Law fucked around with this message at 19:10 on May 17, 2017

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

Eh, just might be pent up angst over the thousands of miles driven the few days before and encountering assholes that race up the other lane to merge when they had warning two miles before.

GnarlyCharlie4u
Sep 23, 2007

I have an unhealthy obsession with motorcycles.

Proof

nitrogen posted:

God forbid I keep a decent following distance between me and the car in front of me during wet conditions!

Some type-A asshat was behind me in rather full traffic honking at me like crazy because I refused to ride the rear end of the guy in front of me.

Thought I was in the DC thread for a second.

nitrogen
May 21, 2004

Oh, what's a 217°C difference between friends?
That's one "bad"behavior I indludge in and will never stop: when asshats refuse to let people merge, I will stop and let 4-5 people merge while sitting g in front of them.

Sigma
Aug 24, 2003

...
Grimey Drawer

nitrogen posted:

That's one "bad"behavior I indludge in and will never stop: when asshats refuse to let people merge, I will stop and let 4-5 people merge while sitting g in front of them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBwS66EBUcY

iospace
Jan 19, 2038


Conversely, people who wait to the last second to change lanes because one is becoming exit only despite all sorts of signs leading up to it drive me INSANE.

Rude Dude With Tude
Apr 19, 2007

Your President approves this text.

BigPaddy posted:

Or confusing Sonic Carhops.

The whole RHD in a LHD country thing is not new. Ask me about getting out to pay tolls in Europe during a storm :v:

I've got one of the little RFID toll charge things in my (UK) car and it amuses me no end to watch French drivers freak out as I head into the quick lane at the péage

GutBomb
Jun 15, 2005

Dude?

iospace posted:

Conversely, people who wait to the last second to change lanes because one is becoming exit only despite all sorts of signs leading up to it drive me INSANE.

This is also just terrible road design. Here in Utah the right lane always turns into an exit only lane about a mile before the exit. People here know this so the right lane is almost always empty even when traffic is moving 10mph. It's still a dashed white line until about an 8th of a mile away from the actual exit so you can still use it as an actual lane up until that point. So I use it. And I don't see how me using a valid empty lane on a highway until it's no longer a valid lane would drive anyone insane. I'm also not one of the people who slow down or stop in the lane to merge left at the last minute. I scan the lane next to me as the next exit approaches and find a gap every time. And sometimes I don't find a gap and just get off and take state street instead which might be actually slower but it's preferable to I-15.

Basically gently caress I-15.

Utah also has a few other "innovations" that are a bit ridiculous. There are these U turn lanes, not sure what I would call them. "Reverse jughandle?" "Half roundabout?" Basically at a big intersection where you would normally be expected to be able to turn left, instead the leftmost lane is straight only. Then the next block there is a turn lane for U turns only. There are lines drawn on the road showing the path to take. The road on the other side is widened in a semi-circle and you're supposed to use the path drawn for you on the road around the semi-circle so you can then reach the end and turn right back at that big intersection where you originally wanted to turn left when you were going the other direction. I guess the semicircle is to make it easier to u turn so you don't need such a tight radius but everyone says "fudge(Utah) these lines, I'm taking it tightly anyway" completely negating any of the engineering smarts it took to design the intersection.



Then there's the "smart intersection" which is another "solution" to the left turn problem that had already been solved decades ago by a turn lane with an arrow light. Basically when a big intersection is coming up and you want to turn left you get in a special turn lane with its own light while through traffic keeps going about a hundred yards until they also stop at their own light. When your turn lane turns green you drive across the opposing traffic lane and straighten out in a new lane to the left of the opposing traffic until you get to the road you want to turn left on. But you can't just turn left because now you have to wait for another red light to turn green before you can turn. And people from the crossing road are confused because unlike the photo they don't all have their own slip lane to turn right with and the first 2 lanes they could turn right into are actually now traveling the wrong direction and they'd be driving into opposing traffic.

GutBomb fucked around with this message at 14:56 on May 18, 2017

CharlieWhiskey
Aug 18, 2005

everything, all the time

this is the world
Sorry for my vulgarity, but that is heck of dumb

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

I can see how it might be more efficient in terms of number of cars can make it through the intersection during rush hour, but it does seem like a great recipe for confusing the average idiot.

It looks like a play on the diverging diamond to me, which is a pretty interesting innovation. You drive over one and are all "what the gently caress is wrong with this road" then you read the research on it and are all "oh cool."

um excuse me
Jan 1, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
divergingdiamond.com is potentially the most autistic site I've ever seen. And I know about the cloud appreciation society. Thanks for that.

Michael Scott
Jan 3, 2010

by zen death robot

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.
Bear horrified to learn of rabbit's enjoyment of other people's misery.

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

um excuse me posted:

divergingdiamond.com is potentially the most autistic site I've ever seen. And I know about the cloud appreciation society. Thanks for that.

I always sigh in relief when there is someone in front of me on a diverging double interchange at a stop light.

dissss
Nov 10, 2007

I'm a terrible forums poster with terrible opinions.

Here's a cat fucking a squid.

PT6A posted:

Honestly, muscle memory can do weird things. I drive an automatic rarely enough (perhaps once every year or less) that, almost certainly, I will at some point trigger the ABS while stopping because I have pressed it hard with my left foot out of habit. It usually only happens once, and luckily it's usually not a big deal if you stop significantly faster than you intended.

Many years ago I worked delivering food to cafes and small restaurants and the like. One day my usual Transit van was down for the count (hardly an uncommon occurrence) and the other van I'd usually use was busy somewhere else. Fortunately the boss was on hand with his company car (an automatic Subaru Legacy wagon) so I was told to use that instead. Now being a car it was well down on capacity compared to the van, but I didn't have too much stuff to deliver so I managed to cram everything in the back okay. Well almost everything, there was a 20l plastic container of the gross cheap 'mayonnaise' that wouldn't fit so I balanced it precariously on the front passenger seat and set off.

Now I'd never driven an auto before but it seemed easy enough so all was fine until I pulled into the first delivery of the day because, of course, I hit the brake like it was the heavy-rear end clutch in the van. The mayo went flying into the dashboard which a) cracked the container and b) gave me one hell of a fright. Surprisingly little mess though, the dashboard itself was undamaged and only a little of the mayo actually leaked out and that was confined to the rubber floor mat. It could potentially have been very, very messy though so I definitely dodged a bullet there (I doubt the boss man would have been very understanding if I ruined his car)

Geoj
May 28, 2008

BITTER POOR PERSON

GutBomb posted:

Utah also has a few other "innovations" that are a bit ridiculous. There are these U turn lanes, not sure what I would call them. "Reverse jughandle?" "Half roundabout?" Basically at a big intersection where you would normally be expected to be able to turn left, instead the leftmost lane is straight only. Then the next block there is a turn lane for U turns only. There are lines drawn on the road showing the path to take. The road on the other side is widened in a semi-circle and you're supposed to use the path drawn for you on the road around the semi-circle so you can then reach the end and turn right back at that big intersection where you originally wanted to turn left when you were going the other direction. I guess the semicircle is to make it easier to u turn so you don't need such a tight radius but everyone says "fudge(Utah) these lines, I'm taking it tightly anyway" completely negating any of the engineering smarts it took to design the intersection.

Sounds like a Michigan left.

totalnewbie
Nov 13, 2005

I was born and raised in China, lived in Japan, and now hold a US passport.

I am wrong in every way, all the damn time.

Ask me about my tattoos.
I moved to Michigan a few years ago and when done well, they grew on me. It gives you the option to turn left from either the left lane or the right lane. It also makes getting to the opposite side of the street a lot easier and safer, as you're not sitting in the suicide lane (not called that for no reason) waiting for a chance to go. You also don't end up blocking other people, nor is there the whole "I want to turn left and the traffic going right is jammed, so someone is giving me a gap, but I can't see the traffic going left so wtf do I do" thing.

But one problem is that not every road has it, so before you learn which ones do, you're completely hosed when it comes to which lane you should be in if you want to turn left.

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

http://i.imgur.com/e8cTPAS.gifv

DEAR RICHARD
Feb 5, 2009

IT'S TIME FOR MY TOOLS
i am so loving pissed off right now. is there a worst drivers in america competition? because portland drivers are possibly the worst i can imagine. gently caress you, assholes. because of some bullshit, i was almost involved in at least a four car wreck at the end of a freeway onramp with light loving traffic.

here's the ramp:
https://www.google.com/maps/@45.526639,-122.6038528,3a,75y,12.04h,65.51t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sWdYU5x_CeQW8T83woUtyJQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

the on ramp swoops down to a 25 mph turn, and then it’s like a straight shot to the freeway with a long merge lane. no real issues with visibility, but the freeway does come out of a slight turn. still no real issues with timing your merge if you take the chance to speed up to 50-55 mph.

car 1: uber driver. 40. going 40 by the time they hit the near end of the onramp.
car 2: in the right lane. panics. slows down. by this time, they are pacing the car trying to merge. car 1 is running out of room and also slowing down. they're at a drat near stop with car 1 on the shoulder now and car 2 just sitting there...
car 3: me. coming up on this bullshit at loving 45 mph coming out of the turn...i’m hosed. i have to basically slam on my brakes, slam on my horn, like, i lay on it, and pray to loving god that the gap between me and the dude behind me is big enough for him to stop. i bet i looked pretty cool when i was yelling and aggressively pointing/flipping you off, you loving bitch.

basically, two loving drivers playing the "no you go" passive bullshit game at freeway speeds drat near started a pretty bad wreck.

Repo Man
Nov 19, 2005
I haven't driven in Oregon enough to have a story like that. But I do distinctly remember coming back from Washington in 2006, and encountering a VW bus just south of Portland on I5. It was in the left lane doing exactly the speed limit at around six PM. One car after another would come up, tailgate it for a bit, then finally realize that the jackass was not going to move, and pass it on the right. It took a while, but I finally managed to get around it.

DEEP STATE PLOT
Aug 13, 2008

Yes...Ha ha ha...YES!



oregon drivers are so terrible it makes me miss living in new york

Imperador do Brasil
Nov 18, 2005
Rotor-rific



https://www.google.com/amp/wnep.com/2017/05/17/one-child-airlifted-to-hospital-after-school-bus-crash-near-lancaster/amp/

This accident happened in Lancaster, PA a few days ago. My father-in-law was driving the oversized load mentioned in the article (he pulls houses) when the jackass in a chevy Malibu decided he didn't want to be stuck behind the house trailer and passed on the left, smashing the escort car and flipping a loving school bus with a ton of kids in it. My father-in-law and the other people he works with had to use one of his trailer jacks to lift the school bus off the 6-year-old. How much of a rush do you have to be in to pull a wackadoo stunt like that?

PCOS Bill
May 12, 2013

by FactsAreUseless
Had a long post, deleted it due to tl;dr. Short version instead - Got a $129 ticket this morning for "tailgating" an unmarked cop because he decided to coast to a stop on the road in front of me in a 40 and I went from 4 car lengths back to 1.5 while deciding whether he was about to make an unsignalled turn and I should just change lanes and pass him, or if there was something in the road he was reacting to (the only other car visible was in front of him and hadn't shown any sign of trouble as they went on their merry way but an a, or what. He decided to go with "change lanes, drop behind me, and light me up to call me an aggressive driver" and told me if he wasn't going fast enough I should have passed him when he slowed down instead of slowing down too.

I thought I was just confused and attempting to assess the situation at hand, little did I know how aggressive that is! He didn't like me telling him I wasn't even on the gas and was just idling in third at the speed limit so it's not like I was gaining on him intentionally, that's for sure...

PCOS Bill fucked around with this message at 13:07 on May 20, 2017

TotalLossBrain
Oct 20, 2010

Hier graben!
The only surprise here is how long it's been since your last mishap/fuckup/"event" in traffic. :allears:

vv indeed, thank you for providing content about whom we all share the road with. It's always entertaining in one way or another. vv

TotalLossBrain fucked around with this message at 16:17 on May 20, 2017

PCOS Bill
May 12, 2013

by FactsAreUseless
Sorry for posting all the stupid poo poo I see on the road in the "These are the people you share a road with" thread

The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





PCOS Bill posted:

Sorry for posting all the stupid poo poo I see on the road in the "These are the people you share a road with" thread

You should have a dash cam. Seems to me a video of your latest story would be very beneficial to you in court.

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane
I was following/in front of a guy who was driving so bad that, even at 10AM, I'm almost sure he was drunk as gently caress. Speeds varied between 90 and 130, speed limits were ignored entirely (40 in a 50 km/h construction zone, then 70 km/h in the same) and he was having the worst loving time maintaining his lane, constantly drifting to the right.

I finally called 911 and tipped them off, there's just no reason for someone to be on the road in that state.

sleepy.eyes
Sep 14, 2007

Like a pig in a chute.
I tried to call Highway Patrol last night around 3 AM to report a loving engine sitting in the middle of the highway, only to find out that the office closes at 7:30 or something. I know 911 is a thing, but it seems to me like there is enough of a difference between impending disaster and something big enough that you would need to be a disaster on general principal if you cant notice it on a well-lit highway. Am I just tragically misunderstanding the mission of HP?

babyeatingpsychopath
Oct 28, 2000
Forum Veteran


PT6A posted:

I was following/in front of a guy who was driving so bad that, even at 10AM, I'm almost sure he was drunk as gently caress. Speeds varied between 90 and 130, speed limits were ignored entirely (40 in a 50 km/h construction zone, then 70 km/h in the same) and he was having the worst loving time maintaining his lane, constantly drifting to the right.

I finally called 911 and tipped them off, there's just no reason for someone to be on the road in that state.

I can almost guarantee that it's texting, or pokemon or something phone-related now.

Before phones in cars was a thing, I was happy that someone was drunk. That gives an excuse. They are physically incapable of reaction times that allow them to safely drive. People on phones: No excuse, they're just stupid assholes being dangerous.

DEEP STATE PLOT
Aug 13, 2008

Yes...Ha ha ha...YES!



there is no excuse for drunk driving either hth

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

babyeatingpsychopath posted:

I can almost guarantee that it's texting, or pokemon or something phone-related now.

Before phones in cars was a thing, I was happy that someone was drunk. That gives an excuse. They are physically incapable of reaction times that allow them to safely drive. People on phones: No excuse, they're just stupid assholes being dangerous.

I was near him for probably 20 minutes, and it never stopped.

I suppose he also could've been a senile old man -- he was driving an old Intrepid sedan, and that's not a good sign. Either way, I said "drunk" to the 911 dispatcher because that gets them off their rear end (and they do specifically request that you call 911 if you suspect someone is driving drunk).

dee eight
Dec 18, 2002

The Spirit
of Maynard

:catdrugs:

sleepy.eyes posted:

I tried to call Highway Patrol last night around 3 AM to report a loving engine sitting in the middle of the highway, only to find out that the office closes at 7:30 or something. I know 911 is a thing, but it seems to me like there is enough of a difference between impending disaster and something big enough that you would need to be a disaster on general principal if you cant notice it on a well-lit highway. Am I just tragically misunderstanding the mission of HP?

The local police non-emergency number automatically transfers to 911 after hours here. It's a relatively small town, so it's no big deal I'm sure.

Javid
Oct 21, 2004

:jpmf:

sleepy.eyes posted:

I tried to call Highway Patrol last night around 3 AM to report a loving engine sitting in the middle of the highway, only to find out that the office closes at 7:30 or something. I know 911 is a thing, but it seems to me like there is enough of a difference between impending disaster and something big enough that you would need to be a disaster on general principal if you cant notice it on a well-lit highway. Am I just tragically misunderstanding the mission of HP?

You can Google "psap [your location]" to get a non emergency number for the 911 call center. Same people but it doesn't come in as a 911 call so they can triage appropriately. This is my move for urgent but not life threatening things.

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane
An engine in the middle of a highway at night is probably dangerous enough to justify a call to 911. Someone could easily swerve and either leave the highway or collide with another car, not to mention the damage that could be done simply by a car hitting it.

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


financially racist posted:

there is no excuse for drunk driving either hth

HOW ELSE AM I SUPPOSED TO GET MY FUCKIN CAR HOME? ~Sam Kinision, December 8, 1953 – April 10, 1992, killed by a drunk driver

Just getting groceries, there's a stupid spot at my favorite grocery store where there's the loading dock right beside the entrance to the area for the trucks to come in and deliver groceries, and people leaving always cut through it to avoid stopping at the stop sign(the fez). I don't because there's bound to be an accident there. Today i encountered 2 morons doing it the opposite way, i'm the blue arrow, and had to stop quickly for the first idiot doing the red arrow, who was then followed by another idiot right on his bumper.

Imagine my shock and amazement when i go to google earth to draw out the incident and the sattelite cam caught an idiot doing the exact same thing. That's a liquor store at the top there so they bomb full speed across 2 lanes through the loading dock area, and across 2 lanes of cross traffic coming around a blind corner and park in those spots at the liquor store.

Geoj
May 28, 2008

BITTER POOR PERSON
Encountered what was possibly the stupidest bro driving a lifted F-250 earlier this week during a trip to Costco. I was cruising in the middle lane of the highway, he was sitting about two carlengths back in the left lane just pacing me.

I encountered slower moving traffic so I signaled and changed lanes to pass, bro proceeds at his previous pace & distance for about 15-20 seconds, then suddenly wakes up to the fact that I was in front of him (guessing he was loving around on his phone) and started raging the gently caress out. Aggressive tailgating, following in both of my blind spots with his tire on the line and swerving across all three lanes repeatedly to change which blind spot he was in.

I started recording him with my phone so I'd have proof if he caused an accident. This just seemed to piss him off more, and he started recording me back while continuing his tailgating and general lovely driving. Eventually he figured out I was just going to ignore him and finally hosed off, but not before flipping me off with one hand while holding his phone in the other and turned around to face me. Oh, and then attempted to pass another car on the right hand shoulder and committed at least a half-dozen other moving violations before speeding off out of view.

Going to see if I can edit the video down to the last 30 seconds or so (most of it is poorly framed watching him in my mirrors until he passed me) when I get home and post it here.

nm
Jan 28, 2008

"I saw Minos the Space Judge holding a golden sceptre and passing sentence upon the Martians. There he presided, and around him the noble Space Prosecutors sought the firm justice of space law."
poo poo big enough to cause a wreck is a 911 issue.

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FCKGW
May 21, 2006

sleepy.eyes posted:

I tried to call Highway Patrol last night around 3 AM to report a loving engine sitting in the middle of the highway, only to find out that the office closes at 7:30 or something. I know 911 is a thing, but it seems to me like there is enough of a difference between impending disaster and something big enough that you would need to be a disaster on general principal if you cant notice it on a well-lit highway. Am I just tragically misunderstanding the mission of HP?

An engine in the middle of a highway at night is a serious issue and you should absolutely call 911 about it.

A cop here died a few years ago when a small fridge fell out of the back of a pickup and he hit it in his patrol car at highway speeds.

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