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Fun little thing while we wait - what are everyone's favourite and least favourite scenes from the four episodes aired so far? My favourite (Wally is a close second obv) has to be the intro of Evil Coop, with that loving amazing music and classic Lynch night driving shot. After 20 minutes of mildly unfamiliar oddities this is the moment where my favourite filmmaker came back in force. Least favourite is probably in ep 3 - the hosed-up woman and son we see in the house across from Dougie and Jade's sex den. Just felt too disconnected from anything and more like Lynch just dipped into his early 00s website stuff for a second.
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May 25, 2017 11:56
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This weekend it's episode 3 and 4 again or are we gonna get a new episode?
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May 25, 2017 12:02
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One Swell Foop posted:Somehow I really miss the shot of the varied thrush from the opening titles. He died soon after filming. I believe he was the first cast member to pass away.  RIP little buddy.
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May 25, 2017 12:09
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radlum posted:This weekend it's episode 3 and 4 again or are we gonna get a new episode? The former. And episode 5 is next week.
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May 25, 2017 12:12
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I've been thinking that Doug-E is based off of Douggie Milford. He factors into Secret History of Twin Peaks a lot and Mark Frost has implied that he was wearing the Owl Cave Ring in his appearances. His behavior is pretty similar, plus the actress who played his wife, the "black widow" is supposed to show up at some point.
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May 25, 2017 12:33
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Anyone notice the part with the couple and box is played with scary movie logic? They initiate sex and instantly get ravaged
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May 25, 2017 12:48
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Wild Horses posted:Anyone notice the part with the couple and box is played with scary movie logic? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvLpbHKV1_8
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May 25, 2017 12:53
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Inadequate Areolas posted:I'm with you on that. I think everything that needs to be explained is or will be as necessary. It's a bit like with the game Yume Nikki, which is just a bunch of dream imagery with vague hints at what's happening. There's whole fanmade sequels that try to "expand" the story and websites with "theories" that try to explain why one image means this or that. They're all horrible and miss the point of the game, which is that messed up poo poo is fun to watch in its own right. It only has to make unconscious sense. I found out that Twin Peaks was really popular in Japan, almost everybody from a certain generation knows about it if you ask them, and lots of Japanese fans visit the site where they filmed. It was actually the inspiration for the game Link's Awakening and I suspect it also influenced Earthbound (although the first Earthbound preceded it, but the whole plot of the second game is really similar in tone to Twin Peaks).
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May 25, 2017 12:53
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Shibawanko posted:I found out that Twin Peaks was really popular in Japan, almost everybody from a certain generation knows about it if you ask them, and lots of Japanese fans visit the site where they filmed. It was actually the inspiration for the game Link's Awakening and I suspect it also influenced Earthbound (although the first Earthbound preceded it, but the whole plot of the second game is really similar in tone to Twin Peaks). That's actually really cool. I don't mean to be a pedant but you've actually confused me a bit here. By "the first Earthbound" do you mean Mother? There's only one game called Earthbound and it's the second game in the Mother series. e: Nevermind, I'm wrong and dumb. I was just informed that Mother was released in America under the name Earthbound Beginnings. So I guess that's just the American name of the series now. Xinder fucked around with this message at 13:08 on May 25, 2017 |
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May 25, 2017 13:03
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I hope James killed Donna in the motorcycle accident and it was her body at the smelly murder scene
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May 25, 2017 13:20
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Xinder posted:That's actually really cool. I don't mean to be a pedant but you've actually confused me a bit here. By "the first Earthbound" do you mean Mother? There's only one game called Earthbound and it's the second game in the Mother series. Yeah Mother 1 was from 1989, Mother 2 from 1994. The wind fish egg is probably loosely based on the black lodge, it was also the first Zelda game with an owl in it, and the weird petroglyph in the face shrine is like the one in owl cave in Twin Peaks.
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May 25, 2017 13:32
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It seems like a style that was enjoyed in Japan quite a lot. Serial Experiments Lain (1998) has quite a Lynch feel to it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFniomRX_QA&t=119s
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May 25, 2017 13:43
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Yeah, Lynch has always had a big Japanese following. The Twin Peaks cast even filmed coffee commercials for the country iirc
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May 25, 2017 14:01
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NObodyNOWHERE posted:Has anyone made note of all the numbers that keep popping up in S3? They're pretty prominent and all over the place. The giant gives some, the arm gives some, there are numbers that change on the electrical socket machine, the junkie lady blurts some out. There's a bunch more too, even back in FWWM. Not sure if there's more to it, but when Jade reaches into Coop's pocket and finds his Great Northern room key, it says "315." The vault numbers were 15 and 3.
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May 25, 2017 14:05
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Just, y'know, as a side-note I am *really* impressed with just how quickly people gulped down all 4 episodes and started analyzing it. I mean like, I'm not trying to point fingers and accuse people of moving too fast with this, but like.... There is a loving LOT LOT LOT to unpack. I have spent over a decade and a half re-watching the series (well, the god parts vis a vis a lot of season 2) as well as FWWM (and recently Missing Pieces) every single year, just about. Gleaning all sorts of meanings and allusions and different interpretations. The material is so DEEP. Lynch, like Kubrick, is essentially playing multi-level chess, and instilling meaning into so many layers. You could study the soundtracks of each episode and probably find fascinating things all over the place. Did you notice that Lynch is also listed in the end credits solely for "sound design"? With Twin Peaks you've got that hugely important level of sound, and the hugely important level of how things happen and are presented visually, and the set design, and the camera angles. Expressions on the actors' faces. Oftentimes there is real *meaning* in these places, and it's neither simple nor grandiose but just there. What I'm really trying to say is that I found SO FREAKING MUCH to look at it in just the first two episodes alone. I watched them both twice before I apprehensively clicked on the third episode And literally stopped 6 minutes in because what was happening was blowing my puny mind and connecting to so many different theories and ideas symbols and events that I knew I would have to start over on this episode and watch it when I could go through it all undistracted and after dark... plus get a better grasp of the first two episodes. This is just so much explosively creative Lynchian dreamscape (which has always felt scarily similar to my own dreamscapes) and I have been waiting SO LONG for this that.... Well, frankly I am going to be seriously, seriously relieved when we get on a 1-episode per week rhythm. I mean, we are gonna NEED that week in between episodes just to properly TRY to follow along with what's happening and why. As I said, I'm still working on the first two episodes. I'm still entranced by Mr. C rollin' into Buehla's to the sound of "American Woman" all chopped and screwed, looking like an even more psychotic Michael Madsen. Or the first call between Margaret and Hawk. Or the patterned floor of the red room opening up while the evolution of The Arm screams "NON-EXIST-ENCE!". Or the pure savagery and horror of the way Mr.C/BOB kills Darya. That punch reminded me so much of the way Leland would punch women he was killing. Anyone else notice that? I'm still hung up on what Matthew Lillard was doing with his face. Or the weird effect when Mr. C shot the guy's wife. Was that supposed to be awful CGI blood that left no splatter or something else? Cooper did say something to her about following human nature - is she another black lodge entity somehow, perhaps possessed. Is her husband? So... I'm still mentally unpacking all of this and fully getting my head and hands around it. I really am amazed at the people who watched all 4 in a row. This is strong medicine, and possibly the magnun opus of Lynch's career.. I suppose we'll see. To me, it's like 18 Birthday presents all lined up, and once you unwrap it'll always be unwrapped forever, so I want to unwrap them carefully, y'know? Oh, and I do want to underscore just how incredibly important the element of sound is in this series - and will continue to be. Sounds, odd sounds connected with objects or places have always been symbolically hugely important. In fact, the first sentence of the revival consists of The Giant saying the following: "Agent Cooper. Listen to the sounds" Advice we should ALL take for the span of this series, not just Agent Cooper. kaworu fucked around with this message at 14:27 on May 25, 2017 |
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May 25, 2017 14:17
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HD DAD posted:Those fuckin' legs yowza. Shame she got her face scooped out by a buzzy ghost alien. yeah i just saw that, she's much less sexy now
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Wild Horses posted:just popping in to say don't bully james. he was a dweeb but he's old and lonely now. he stll has a babyface though
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May 25, 2017 14:29
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Inadequate Areolas posted:I'm with you on that. I think everything that needs to be explained is or will be as necessary. David Lynch is an extremely symbol-minded director who, despite his coy joking about how there's no one right way to interpret his movies, has a very specific idea he's getting across most of the time. David Lynch is synonymous with there being hidden or obscured information that must be teased out, not putting nonsense on screen for no reason.
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May 25, 2017 14:56
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Under the vegetable posted:David Lynch is an extremely symbol-minded director who, despite his coy joking about how there's no one right way to interpret his movies, has a very specific idea he's getting across most of the time. David Lynch is synonymous with there being hidden or obscured information that must be teased out, not putting nonsense on screen for no reason. Little bit of column A, little bit of column B. Just because somebody doesn't look at it in the same way or as literally doesn't mean they think it's nonsense for example. You look at it that he has a very specific thing he's getting across, but I wouldn't be surprised if he often can't explain why something works, he just feels it works. And different people may get something different out of it. I do think analyzing details like the number stuff is interesting, but I also don't think his stuff overall has one specific way of looking at it. He's the king of dreamlike surreal movies, might as well have some room for interpretation. It's interesting that you consider him to be coyly joking though, I think he's being sincere. Heavy Metal fucked around with this message at 15:02 on May 25, 2017 |
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May 25, 2017 15:00
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I have to assume he's got a sense of humor about that stuff, his timing on lines in interviews like "I think Eraserhead is my most spiritual film." "Can you elaborate on that?" "No." kills me
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May 25, 2017 15:05
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He's funny in how he won't answer what he doesn't want to etc, true. Saying he's joking when he contradicts your view on his movies is another thing.
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May 25, 2017 15:07
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kaworu posted:In fact, the first sentence of the revival consists of The Giant saying the following: Then maybe you can help me confirm whether there is a muted toilet flushing sound during the non-exist-ent scene. I can't quite tell whether that's just what my brain wants to hear.
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May 25, 2017 15:20
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kaworu posted:Cooper did say something to her about following human nature - is she another black lodge entity somehow, perhaps possessed. Is her husband? Agreed for sure that it's like 18 Birthday presents, pretty wonderful that this ended up happening (again)!
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May 25, 2017 15:25
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Kurtofan posted:yeah i just saw that, she's much less sexy now She was full-front naked in Californication with Agent Denise like a decade ago, if I remember correctly. Showtime always was on the cutting edge of turning women you remember as kids from sitcoms into sex objects.
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May 25, 2017 15:32
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Did the woman with no eyes scoop out the rest of Cooper's brain
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moist turtleneck posted:Did the woman with no eyes scoop out the rest of Cooper's brain He'll be fine once the caffeine kicks in.
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Have you guys... er, noted that the woman with her eyes stiched shut (and later with eyes of course and 'normal' backward speaking) was playing by freaking Phoebe Augustine? You might remember her from that magazine of taste and class, FLESH WORLD: Yeah, seriously. I'm sure the connection has been made before that the women with no eyes was played by the same actress as Ronnette Pulaski. But Cooper certainly doesn't recognize her (and probably neither do we). She is credited in the cast as "American Girl", which is a *fairly* odd way to credit someone as freaking odd as that. But I mean, there *has* to be some message being sent here, it's not as if Lynch would make an arbitrary decision to recast the actress who played Ronnette in a scene like THAT. But digging a bit deeper, it also makes me feel like the "American Girl" with her eyes stiched shut (or not stitched shut) is a benevolent force in relation to Cooper, and the "the purple room" or whatever we are calling that odd spaceship-ish... thing.... is also a positive place of some sort, at least for Cooper. Major Briggs showing up in the hallucination and it being makes me think of the Deep Space transmissions that Major Briggs shared with Cooper in the season 2 premiere. Could these "deep space transmissions" ultimately be coming from the Purple Room, in some way? I shall end with a FWWM quote that has likely been quoted already in this thread but is worth quoting again: quote:DONNA kaworu fucked around with this message at 16:43 on May 25, 2017 |
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May 25, 2017 16:32
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business hammocks posted:She was full-front naked in Californication with Agent Denise like a decade ago, if I remember correctly. Showtime always was on the cutting edge of turning women you remember as kids from sitcoms into sex objects. Yeah, she was the inspiration for loving and Punching. She played Moody's ex-wife's stepdaughter.
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May 25, 2017 16:43
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Under the vegetable posted:David Lynch is an extremely symbol-minded director who, despite his coy joking about how there's no one right way to interpret his movies, has a very specific idea he's getting across most of the time. David Lynch is synonymous with there being hidden or obscured information that must be teased out, not putting nonsense on screen for no reason. I didn't mean to imply that it was just a bunch of nonsense. I think he's a great storyteller and it isn't too difficult to follow with what's going on - I wouldn't waste my time watching otherwise. I think that it's only natural to try to rationalize things, that's a very human thing. As far as his films go, I like to let it make sense in the moment, instead of trying to make sense out of it. Like a bizarre dream where what you're doing and everything going on around you makes perfect sense, but then you wake up and try to explain it out loud and it becomes ridiculous. I'll still think of the dream and it will still make sense in my head. Probably why Inland Empire is my favorite. But I understand why people like theories and rationalization. In any case, I love reading discussions about Lynch poo poo.
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kaworu posted:Have you guys... er, noted that the woman with her eyes stiched shut (and later with eyes of course and 'normal' backward speaking) was playing by freaking Phoebe Augustine? The woman with no eyes was played by a different person, Nae Yuuki, according to the credits. kaworu posted:She is credited in the cast as "American Girl", which is a *fairly* odd way to credit someone as freaking odd as that. But I mean, there *has* to be some message being sent here, it's not as if Lynch would make an arbitrary decision to recast the actress who played Ronnette in a scene like THAT. If you watch this streaming through Amazon and have that "X-Ray" feature turned on, it shows you all the cast members in whatever scene you're watching. Interestingly, it showed this for the "American Girl": 
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Escobarbarian posted:Also this video is awful and terrible and I love it http://youtu.be/sv0PAoNFNLU?a  Escobarbarian posted:Fun little thing while we wait - what are everyone's favourite and least favourite scenes from the four episodes aired so far? Rageaholic fucked around with this message at 18:12 on May 25, 2017 |
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May 25, 2017 18:01
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kaworu posted:Major Briggs showing up in the hallucination and it being makes me think of the Deep Space transmissions that Major Briggs shared with Cooper in the season 2 premiere. Could these "deep space transmissions" ultimately be coming from the Purple Room, in some way? I'm half thinking that it is actually a Project Bluebook satellite. It has a bunch of 20th century looking technology in it, a blue rose and it literally transmits something back to earth.
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astronautism posted:The woman with no eyes was played by a different person, Nae Yuuki, according to the credits. Right, OK.. So the actress who played Ronette, credited as 'American Girl', was the second girl who could speak/see normally, not the first one who flips the switch and flies into oblivion. That makes a bit more sense.
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Was unsure what I really thought of the new episodes at first. Now that the imagery and ideas have been squatting in my brain for a few days I'm super-excited. It's really kind of grown on me. Have a feeling this is all leading up to something enormous. Maybe we'll see the universe destroyed in episode 17 and episode 18 will be 54 minutes of black silent emptiness.
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Fairly passive posted:Maybe we'll see the universe destroyed in episode 17 and episode 18 will be 54 minutes of black silent emptiness.
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Finale's going to be an hour of Dick Tremayne hijinks.
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loving A. Should not have watched all four of those first episodes in one shot. That was goddamn depressing.
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kaworu posted:Right, OK.. So the actress who played Ronette, credited as 'American Girl', was the second girl who could speak/see normally, not the first one who flips the switch and flies into oblivion. Yeah, but the odd thing is she's listed as literally "Ronette Pulaski" in the x-ray information. Dunno if that was a slip by whatever system they use to create the x-ray data, or if it was accurate info that they were trying to keep ambiguous in the credits.
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Did you all notice the actor that played Jacques Renault now runs the Bang Bang Bar but his characters name is now Jean Michel Renault.
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