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I'm not 100 percent clear on what pbta is but I much prefer the skeleton dnd to it. There's no game mechanics really, just some half assed make-um-ups with pretty irrelevant dice throws. Just make it a long form improv exercise at this point. Is the full version focused even more on rewarding character work? Because that would suck. The more they force this sincere background stuff the less jokes are in it. The shows starting to feel like a chore. I mean I guess they should keep doing this way because it's wildly popular and people keep saying they're tearing up at points. I just don't care about the emotional journey of Barry loving Bluejeans as much as a bunch of other people I guess
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You wouldn't know if you preferred it because this isn't really a proper PbtA. This is even more a skeleton of a PbtA system than the skeleton of D&D they were using. Full systems actually have proper moves to make, so there's a lot more structure to it. And like I said earlier, it rewards the characters interacting with each other, which is what Tres Horny Boys do best.
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Drunkboxer posted:I'm not 100 percent clear on what pbta is but I much prefer the skeleton dnd to it. There's no game mechanics really, just some half assed make-um-ups with pretty irrelevant dice throws. Just make it a long form improv exercise at this point. Is the full version focused even more on rewarding character work? Because that would suck. The more they force this sincere background stuff the less jokes are in it. The shows starting to feel like a chore. Griffin's skeleton of a pbta system is definitely nearly entirely improv with no mechanics, but also like how can you seriously be completely against rewarding character work
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It's almost like a bunch of Internet sads found a media creator that was just woke enough that they could be easily guilted into changing their goofy joke show into SERIOUS REPRESENTATIONAL FIC and then complained when three white dudes didn't do a queer latinx character exactly like they wanted. This whole thing is extremely dumb. Twitter is a cancer.
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Heroic Yoshimitsu posted:Reprint the TAZ graphic novel, but replace all instances of Taako/Merle/Magnus with three copies of Todd Coolbody Oh sure, another comic with a white cis male with toxic masculinity as the main character??????????
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Chieves posted:Oh sure, another comic with a white cis male with toxic masculinity as the main character?????????? He's loving green
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feel like we're drifting away from conversation being "people overreact with representation in fandom" and examining why that is and back to the good ol SA "actually caring about anything is stupid and bad" which bums me out
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Psychedelicatessen posted:He's loving green Only sometimes
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flatluigi posted:Griffin's skeleton of a pbta system is definitely nearly entirely improv with no mechanics, but also like how can you seriously be completely against rewarding character work Because I like jokes
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I think it's pretty loving gross that an incredibly vocal minority of the TAZ fandom went "They ruined my boner for the magic gay fake wizard, so now the correct response is to, clearly, try to deprive an actual living breathing gay person of her livelihood."
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I hope that someday they stop trying to appease anyone and just make the stuff they make and let people not like it if they have a problem with it.
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bigperm posted:I hope that someday they stop trying to appease anyone and just make the stuff they make and let people not like it if they have a problem with it. Yeah there's definitely a time to say "oh oops yeah I see your point we were being insensitive there, we will try to fix it" and another time to say "ok I'm sorry you don't like it".
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The latest TAZ was very funny and if you think it wasn't funny then I don't know what show you're listening to, the voidfish is cute as heck, and literally destroy all fandoms. Okay bye
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QuickbreathFinisher posted:It's almost like a bunch of Internet sads found a media creator that was just woke enough that they could be easily guilted into changing their goofy joke show into SERIOUS REPRESENTATIONAL FIC and then complained when three white dudes didn't do a queer latinx character exactly like they wanted. This whole thing is extremely dumb. Twitter is a cancer. Starting to think being 'woke' is in fact the opposite of awareness.
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The audience rushes the stage at the next TAZ live show, throwing stones at the McElroys for daring to cast Clint McElroy, noted white man, in the role of PoC character Merle Highchurch. They're only spared from death when someone notices that if you squint at one of the rocks it kind of looks like a face with a big nose and the crowd instead destroys all stonework for being inherently antisemitic. Taako becomes half latino and half blue, the fandom destroys itself deciding which half is which.
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Watching the loving Awful Squad stream and I can't loving believe on the match where they didn't do anything but shot each other, drove to the ends of the map, and slowly drowned, seven teams still did worse than them
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purple death ray posted:Watching the loving Awful Squad stream and I can't loving believe on the match where they didn't do anything but shot each other, drove to the ends of the map, and slowly drowned, seven teams still did worse than them It's a pretty good bet that a good handful of teams die within the first two minutes of the match, as if two teams drop down at the same time they're going to instantly kill each other.
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Hey guys the circle is far away we need to get moving! *Checks a room, finds some ammo, fiddles with inventory* Ok the circle is closing in and we've got a far way to go! Let's get moving North!! *Checks another room, finds a gun, switches out inventory, applies mods to gun, loads ammo, switches back to other gun* Oh man we're not going to make it! *Takes pot shots at enemy a kilometer away* *Dies outside the play zone* Truly awful squad.
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You either watch battlegrounds streams to watch people be awful at it or be great at it
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Drunkboxer posted:Because I like jokes Normal pbta, and it would be dungeon world for this kind of game probably, isn't really so different in terms of what it'll take you through than a dnd game. What it brings to the table is player flexibility and speed - what it sacrifices is mechanical detail and endless spell lists. Pbta has no turns. No player order. You truck through and when it seems appropriate for someone to be the focus, they say what they are doing. Just like what the boys do now outside of combat, except it applies to fights as well. What this means is fights are fun. Badguys dont roll dice. You don't get the massive slowdown of rolling initiative, and going round the 10 goblins rolling to see what they do. The players say what they do and then if it seems necessary you see which of the set moves seems appropriate. Failure doesn't mean your whole turn amounts to nothing. You'll get a weird twist, or punched. You don't get any dead rolls. Fights always drag on forever in TAZ normally, listen to friends at the table or some other pbta podcast and see how the fights remain quick and freeform. It'll suit the boys to a tee.
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I watch battlegrounds streams to see the awful people achieve victory by sheer luck and then spend the rest of their time playing trying to replicate all the variables to reenact that same scenario. Worst Battlegrounds stream is the the people who are good at the game because they will invariably start talking poo poo AT the game for being a buggy mess or getting mad at enemy players for doing unpredictable poo poo like a poker player gets mad at people not doing pot valuation betting or some poo poo.
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Blockhouse posted:feel like we're drifting away from conversation being "people overreact with representation in fandom" and examining why that is and back to the good ol SA "actually caring about anything is stupid and bad" which bums me out If the scope of the conversation is the comedy D&D goof show and its representation of racial and sexual identifty, then I actually feel quite comfortable saying caring about it is stupid and bad.
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I care about the show because it makes me happy, and that's also why I care sbout these three good boys. I don't think that's stupid. In fact, I think that's a great reason to care about a thing.
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I like Pat and I like what he does in this stream https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fv2UTqpib3M&t=4062s
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Captain Internet posted:I watch battlegrounds streams to see the awful people achieve victory by sheer luck and then spend the rest of their time playing trying to replicate all the variables to reenact that same scenario. The people who go on tilt are not good at poker. Being actually good at games means recognizing what risks you're taking and accepting that you're going to lose sometimes.
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I just started watching the PUBG videos and "Charlie - he plays ARMA for fun." might be the funniest thing I've ever heard.
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evacuate meatspace posted:I like Pat and I like what he does in this stream This reminds me of one of my favorite giant bomb moments. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwXS3Q1EmGI&t=6s
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Love that PubG Stream, hate that Russ. Haven't seen any of his other stuff, mostly because I'd heard he was boring in those too. Sooo...is he someone's kid?
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Raar_Im_A_Dinosaur posted:Sooo...is he someone's kid? Clint was stepping out on their ma
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Russ can be funny, but he's pretty infuriating in those streams. He's usually pretty entertaining (if snide) on The Besties. I didn't watch Law Abiding Citizen.
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QuickbreathFinisher posted:It's almost like a bunch of Internet sads found a media creator that was just woke enough that they could be easily guilted into changing their goofy joke show into SERIOUS REPRESENTATIONAL FIC and then complained when three white dudes didn't do a queer latinx character exactly like they wanted. This whole thing is extremely dumb. Twitter is a cancer. The earnestness of the response and the palpable sense of guilt about the relationship of Beach Dwarves and taco goofs to real world issues of representation is loving hilarious though.
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Everyone: Dammit Russ what the gently caress did you DO Russ: *falsetto giggle*
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am i the only one with no interest in awful squad? i don't have time to watch two hour long videos of regular unedited gameplay about a game that doesn't appeal me, but it seems to be all that they're doing at the moment e: that said i probably would watch if they edited it down to half hour highlight videos A Great Big Bee! fucked around with this message at 12:51 on Jun 5, 2017 |
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PerilPastry posted:The earnestness of the response and the palpable sense of guilt about the relationship of Beach Dwarves and taco goofs to real world issues of representation is loving hilarious though. I think it's incredibly funny too
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The McElroys are living proof that no matter how hard you try you can't satisfy everybody.
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Ultimately its why I think "there are no canon representations of these characters!" is a bad move to hold onto when you start producing merchandise of them yourselves because you just told everyone their interpretation actually just isn't as valid as the actual material you're printing and charging real american dollars regardless of your actual words People are going to be introduced to TAZ with those designs. It may not be "canon" but its what everyone is going to think of and I think it would be slightly better if they just ripped the band-aid off, or at least actually described appearances from the start for their characters in every game from now on. Not that I'm blaming the McElroys or implying this situation is their fault or in any way deserved, especially since the "no canon" measure was enacted to stop artists from being bullied for drawing the characters "wrong" (more hot fandom bullshit there) but its clear its doing more harm to them and Carey at this point than good.
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I can empathise with people who want representation, but TAZ just can't really be the platform for that. Taako can't be Latinx or Mexican because it exists in a world without Latin America or Mexico. It'd be like mentioning that Obi Wan Kenobi was from France. It just doesn't make sense. My headcanon: Magnus is Jimmy Smitts, Merle is Jimmy Buffett. well why not fucked around with this message at 14:29 on Jun 5, 2017 |
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