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basic hitler posted:Actually I enjoy it quite a bit, but this episode was loving nothing like anything in the show or fire walk with me. sorry I'm not ~*on your level*~ or w/e Obviously there's some stuff we've never seen before because it's never been in the show before, like the frogroach, but come on dude. Do you honestly think this has nothing to do with the rest of what's been going on? Okay.
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I guess I will be in the minority here that didn't like the episode. Some of the visuals and sound design was pretty cool, but I feel like Lynch and Frost are pulling a Prometheus here and lore dumping stuff black lodge origin stuff that I don't think needed to be explained. I thought the NIN performance was completely pointless also. I know Lynch is putting this forward as an 18-hour film, but it is being presented as a weekly television show, and I think that is really hurting the pacing of everything and is getting pretty frustrating for me personally. I might just cancel Showtime and watch the whole thing on Bluray when it's out, because I think that would help my enjoyment of the show a lot more.
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Rageaholic Monkey posted:Make sure to tape your mouth shut so no frogroaches crawl in! I was terrified of ever sleeping again BEFORE I saw that scene. After it I was terrified of not being in a state of hyper-lucidity 24/7!
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Zyklon B Zombie posted:I guess I will be in the minority here that didn't like the episode. Some of the visuals and sound design was pretty cool, but I feel like Lynch and Frost are pulling a Prometheus here and lore dumping stuff black lodge origin stuff that I don't think needed to be explained. I thought the NIN performance was completely pointless also. Rowdy and riled up posters, please don't shoot me for this bad opinion: We'll see where they go with it, but the idea of Laura Palmer's soul retroactively turning out to be some kind of fated chosen one is kinda bad and worryingly star-wars-prequel-esque I adored the episode and show and season otherwise, I hope I won't be killed 
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Jun 26, 2017 09:25
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No Mods No Masters posted:Rowdy and riled up posters, please don't shoot me for this bad opinion: I guess I agree with this actually. But a large part of me wonders if we'll ever go back to any of this Thread is gonna go insane over the next two weeks.
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No Mods No Masters posted:Rowdy and riled up posters, please don't shoot me for this bad opinion:
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Jerusalem posted:I was terrified of ever sleeping again BEFORE I saw that scene. After it I was terrified of not being in a state of hyper-lucidity 24/7! Frogbug didn't bother be all that much, somehow. The White Lodge, though, I'm fairly sure I've had nightmares about this place before.  
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No Mods No Masters posted:Rowdy and riled up posters, please don't shoot me for this bad opinion: Eh, I kinda agree, it's the one part of the episode I found to be a bit hokey. But they sure did reveal it in a hell of a non-standard way, at least.
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This in particular really hosed with me, I've dreamed of a place/feeling like this before and it was horrifying. Though if I'd known there was a nice, smiling fat lady inside and a friendly giant maybe I'd have felt better.....  Which reminds me, I love that in 2017 we had somebody post in this thread their relief at seeing Twin Peak's giant, because NOW things would start making sense!
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However we know that time in the lodges is not liner so that could have been her soul being free as seen in the end of fire walk with me
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Rageaholic Monkey posted:Well we already know she was raped by her dad, prostituting herself and addicted to cocaine, so it's not like her being the chosen one made her life easy or anything. Like she must have been living 30 hour days.
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watching the Frogbug scene again it chirps at her to open her mouth. It has a beak what like hummingbirds have. Why does that feel even more unnerving?
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basic hitler posted:and all of you stop pretending this poo poo is obvious because it isn't. It's abstract artsy fartsy poo poo that's begging you to read into it whatever you want and nothing that's aired for the entirety of season 3 has given any credence to these suggestions that I can tell. i dunno, it all seemed kinda obvious to me especially with the majority of posters here all saying the exact same things i was thinking while watching the show. like as far as surreal abstract w/e art goes, this was relatively straightforward. the only thing I've seen anyone post that i don't agree with was the whole sarah palmer thing, i really do not think that girl was sarah palmer, otherwise yeah i think everyone's analysis has been spot-on. i think if you kinda threw your hands up at the beginning and said "jfc what the gently caress is this poo poo, it's ridiculous artsy fartsy bullshit" and just angrily watched the rest of it in frustration, it might have been easy to miss some stuff and not really follow things, but if you watched it with a more open mind or some eagerness i think it would have been very easy to follow. i don't mean to sound like i'm talking down to you at all but i really do think the weird imagery was surprisingly straightforward and even hard to miss
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Yeah, like not to try and sound "above" you, basic hitler, but I really did find all these connections extremely obvious while watching the episode. Of course a lot of that comes with being a super nerd who's reading up on this stuff constantly in between episodes, but it still feels ridiculous to claim it's totally contextless and random.
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Considering the events of this episode, could it be possible that the green stone set in the ring is Trinitite? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinitite
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Took long enough but oh god I finally got around to watching it. Ain't no party like a Ghost Hobo Dance Party because a Ghost Hobo Dance Party leads to the Nine Inch Nails followed by lots of drugs and accidentally flipping on Fantasia.
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Gatekeeper posted:i dunno, it all seemed kinda obvious to me especially with the majority of posters here all saying the exact same things i was thinking while watching the show. like as far as surreal abstract w/e art goes, this was relatively straightforward. the only thing I've seen anyone post that i don't agree with was the whole sarah palmer thing, i really do not think that girl was sarah palmer, otherwise yeah i think everyone's analysis has been spot-on. i think if you kinda threw your hands up at the beginning and said "jfc what the gently caress is this poo poo, it's ridiculous artsy fartsy bullshit" and just angrily watched the rest of it in frustration, it might have been easy to miss some stuff and not really follow things, but if you watched it with a more open mind or some eagerness i think it would have been very easy to follow. i don't mean to sound like i'm talking down to you at all but i really do think the weird imagery was surprisingly straightforward and even hard to miss Agreed that the storyline was fairly straightforward. Lynch gets called a surrealist but honestly most of his stories are fairly logical and even simple in plot ("a girl in trouble" is how he describes many of his films), just told in a non-expository, somewhat surrealist manner. I mean, Un Chien Andalou, that's some surrealism for real. Next on the spectrum would be something like The Holy Mountain, then maybe The Discrete Charm of the Bourgeoisie. Lynch's surrealism is on a par with, say, Pan's Labyrinth.
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I think I understand why Lynch insisted it air weekly now.
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pyrotek posted:I think I understand why Lynch insisted it air weekly now. 
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Amazing stuff. Some thoughts - Mother definitely looks like Bdonger's playing card that he "wants" - Mother's arms definitely "bend back" - The record player had stopped when the Giant says "Listen to the sounds" in episode one. This episode shows there's always music in the air in the Giants house. - Maybe Laura hosed up her ending in FWWM as much as Coop did in the original series by not getting possessed by BOB so he could be captured and neutered or killed. - I have a cigarette lighter with me at all times so I think I'm pretty much safe from any Woodsmen - She eated it. Ewwww. I hope she's ok.
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Nuclear bombs are full of free jazz. The USA tested a 10 kiloZorn device in New Mexico. These frightful weapons also contain stop-motion convenience stores and astral egg-barf. also, Grocer Goodwill posted:TRENT REZNOR DO NOT READ THIS moller fucked around with this message at 11:22 on Jun 26, 2017 |
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I thought this episode was very straightforward. Being able to come to alot of the same conclusions as people here did, the first time through, makes me feel a nice sense of community that I don't actually get from gabbing about television most of the time. It also makes it seem like someone referring to the same presentation as "artsy fartsy' didn't have enough interest to really participate, (also makes it sound like either an 80 year old is speaking or else someone whose speech skills formed watching the McCarthy hearings). Lynch has been waiting 25 years for his artsy fartsy and I''m so glad it's too late for anything to be changed. Reminds me of when my cousin mentioned leading up to the new season how he really liked Twin Peaks when it wasn't "up its rear end like FWWM" regarding the themes of the Palmer storyline. Funny enough the same conversation included him saying that he really "didn't get chicks". Hmmm. Television is generally a passive experience, which I think sets people up for sort of demanding interpretations from those who liked it as a way of forcing someone else to validate their interests. I can remember LOST discussion threads where the chain was basically I DONT GET IT ----> EXPLAIN IT TO ME ------> THAT'S STUPID "Explain to me why that lovely, AWFUL thing you are doing, makes you feel anything GOOD!" When really it's like: don't go to the coffee shop if you dont like coffee. People who like coffee will be there.
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I'm sure this has been noted like 50 times, but holy poo poo NIN into Threnody for the Victims of Hiroshima was unexpected and amazing.
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No Mods No Masters posted:Rowdy and riled up posters, please don't shoot me for this bad opinion: I'm hoping that it isn't literal and it's instead using two symbols that are recognizable to viewers of the show. And even if it is literal, there's already a weird sense of scale at work where a man who is supposed to be the embodiment of cosmic evil from another plane of existence is just a middle-tier criminal in a spray tan who engages is drugs and murder.
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Boo hoo I watched something surreal for like an hour, time I could have spent watching anime
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After all the negotiations between Lynch and Showtime and all the on-again-off-again rumors about budget and runtime and creative control and Showtime finally giving in to all of Lynch's demands, I would fuckin love to know what it was like in the room when he said OH YEAH BY THE WAY IN EPISODE EIGHT WE'RE GONNA HIRE NINE INCH NAILS. FOR A SCENE LINK
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basic hitler posted:how are you reading this into a bunch of shots without context or dialogue? Shut up bitch
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:hordes of dark bums come out and ravage your corpse:
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Data Graham posted:After all the negotiations between Lynch and Showtime and all the on-again-off-again rumors about budget and runtime and creative control and Showtime finally giving in to all of Lynch's demands, I would fuckin love to know what it was like in the room when he said OH YEAH BY THE WAY IN EPISODE EIGHT WE'RE GONNA HIRE NINE INCH NAILS. FOR A SCENE LINK I'd like to think he just said "fine, I won't direct, I'm sure whichever guy you get will be great, especially if they've got a couple of episodes of NCIS under their belt. Now just promise me they'll do a good job of the bit where mother extends her infinite birth tube towards the inside of the nuclear explosion"
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Data Graham posted:After all the negotiations between Lynch and Showtime and all the on-again-off-again rumors about budget and runtime and creative control and Showtime finally giving in to all of Lynch's demands, I would fuckin love to know what it was like in the room when he said OH YEAH BY THE WAY IN EPISODE EIGHT WE'RE GONNA HIRE NINE INCH NAILS. FOR A SCENE LINK
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What an episode. I'm certain I missed a whole bunch of little things so I'm sure I'll be watching it dozens more times in the coming weeks. I did come to the same conclusions as most in this thread, however I don't think the girl at the end is Sarah Palmer either, it just doesn't seem to line up. I also definitely missed Bob being shown coming out of shot Bad Cooper, but his face was definitely in a blob while the woodsmen were smearing blood on him. I assume him sitting back up was Bob successful re-entering him? Modrasone posted:I'd like to think he just said "fine, I won't direct, I'm sure whichever guy you get will be great, especially if they've got a couple of episodes of NCIS under their belt. Now just promise me they'll do a good job of the bit where mother extends her infinite birth tube towards the inside of the nuclear explosion"
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Through the darkness of future past The magician longs to see One chants out between two worlds Got a light? MullardEL34 posted:Considering the events of this episode, could it be possible that the green stone set in the ring is Trinitite? Interesting idea but the book shows that the ring has existed since at least the 1800s.
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Cromulent posted:Ever read the pre-David Lynch script for the S2 finale? They make the Black Lodge seem like something from loving Looney Tunes, signs falling from the ceiling saying stuff like "Try again, sucker." http://www.lynchnet.com/tp/tp29.html It's pretty loving dumb and has a bunch of that lame Windom Earle crap.
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