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Phanatic posted:How. How do people not understand that unless there's a sign that says NO TURN ON RED, you are actually allowed to turn right on red. Why is this a thing that happens. I flash my brights and politely honk at particularly long lights and long stretches of zero cross traffic. They usually don't move an inch.
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They don't have to turn if they don't want to, FYI.
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um excuse me posted:They don't have to turn if they don't want to, FYI. The speed limit is just that, an upper limit. You are legally allowed (in most places) to go slower than that in any lane, if you want to.
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babyeatingpsychopath posted:The speed limit is just that, an upper limit. You are legally allowed (in most places) to go slower than that in any lane, if you want to. I was told down to 5 mph under for any reason is fine on city streets. Below that you better have a good reason. Freeway though is this: 
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The freeways here in MN usually specify a minimum speed of 40 on the sign. I don't know how that is enforced, though.
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carry on then posted:The freeways here in MN usually specify a minimum speed of 40 on the sign. I don't know how that is enforced, though. All interstates have a minimum of 40 (or 45). It's to keep farm machinery and bicycles and stuff off them. Slow traffic is a hazard.
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carry on then posted:The freeways here in MN usually specify a minimum speed of 40 on the sign. I don't know how that is enforced, though. The Long Island Expressway also has signed minimum speeds of 40 though it's not like you'll every approach that speed on a good day. 
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There is this super tall bridge near me, like a popular suicide site tall, and every time it rains hard I guarantee you some poor motherfucker who hates heights does about 40 over that thing. And every time this guy meets up with some road-ragey guy who wants to do 90 at all times, loses his poo poo, and does something dumb.
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Yesterday a douchebag behind me in a Volvo honked because I was waiting for someone in a crosswalk. They were so mad they went around me (Away from te pedestrian) and sped through the intersection without looking/
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Edward IV posted:The Long Island Expressway also has signed minimum speeds of 40 though it's not like you'll every approach that speed on a good day. I'm so happy that I no longer have a commute that takes me on the LIE. For content, yesterday morning I got to see someone in a Dodge Dort roll straight through a stop sign to make a left. They were just casually looking down at their phone. Dunno if they even realize they were almost t-boned by the Armada full of mom and kids. Rotten Cookies fucked around with this message at 13:05 on Jun 26, 2017 |
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I was part of a double dickery last night and I'm here to confess and also rant. I was getting off the highway onto an empty exist, and some douchebag in a BMW slips in front of me past the dotted line and solidly into the gore point and just drops loving anchor going from 70 to 35 and then slows to 20 by the bottom of the exit ramp, which is marked 35. As soon as we reach where two ramps intersect (One from east, one from west) I made a fast pass to get around him since he was still on his brakes and I saw it was clear and got back in front of him a few car lengths ahead just as he started to floor it to try and block me from changing lanes, a very slow reaction speed on his part. He almost came into contact with my rear bumper, which would have been hilarious (for me) because I was in the Cherokee, which has a steel bumper and an empty tow hitch, VS the hood of a 3 series. I hope he had to get that seat detailed and/or surgically pulled out of his rear end cheeks.
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Jun 26, 2017 19:30
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like clockwork
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TotalLossBrain posted:like clockwork I think fully half of your replies in this thread are to me. Take this time for some introspection.
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Jun 26, 2017 20:13
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https://twitter.com/TommyMcFLY/status/879121617288273920
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PCOS Bill posted:I think fully half of your replies in this thread are to me. Take this time for some introspection. 
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Boys who love boys
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In before someone posts something racist
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InitialDave posted:Are the police escorting them? I imagine they're just tailing the parade in case anything happens. There are too many risers to stop, and attempting to would probably just escalate things and make the situation more dangerous.
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Jun 26, 2017 20:46
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They're making better use of the available space than the same number of cars would
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Jun 26, 2017 20:48
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Honestly they should dress it up a bit and cosplay as some mad max war boys or something and have fun with it. People would probably love it if you get someone in a pickup rocking a flame guitar.
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monsterzero posted:I imagine they're just tailing the parade in case anything happens. There are too many risers to stop, and attempting to would probably just escalate things and make the situation more dangerous.
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u brexit ukip it posted:They're making better use of the available space than the same number of cars would Yes! Happy Noodle Boy posted:Honestly they should dress it up a bit and cosplay as some mad max war boys or something and have fun with it. People would probably love it if you get someone in a pickup rocking a flame guitar. What? The ring-a-ding and smell of 2-strokes not enough for you? InitialDave posted:An important clarification there is "for whom?" Everyone. That's what smart LE orgs have no pursuit policies. And it's not like they're raping and pillaging, they're just stuntin'.
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monsterzero posted:Everyone. That's what smart LE orgs have no pursuit policies. And it's not like they're raping and pillaging, they're just stuntin'. On vehicles that aren't street-legal, or registered, or insured, and being driven in a reckless manner. If one guy on a motorcycle's driving down the road popping wheelies, a cop who sees that will put his lights on and try to pull the guy over. Why is it acceptable for a bunch of guys on motorcycles and quads to be driving down the road popping wheelies?
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That's strength in numbers.
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Phanatic posted:On vehicles that aren't street-legal, or registered, or insured, and being driven in a reckless manner. If one guy on a motorcycle's driving down the road popping wheelies, a cop who sees that will put his lights on and try to pull the guy over. Why is it acceptable for a bunch of guys on motorcycles and quads to be driving down the road popping wheelies? Well, I'd argue a bunch of guys doing that is more entertaining than just one. But I don't see how the situation would improve if the police actively try to stop one/a few riders, because now you have a bunch of riders running from the cops. Riding more aggressively and in different directions instead of a parade going one way at 35mph.
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Phanatic posted:On vehicles that aren't street-legal, or registered, or insured, and being driven in a reckless manner. If one guy on a motorcycle's driving down the road popping wheelies, a cop who sees that will put his lights on and try to pull the guy over. Why is it acceptable for a bunch of guys on motorcycles and quads to be driving down the road popping wheelies? One guy isn't going to fight back against 6 cops. one guy isn't going to run into himself in a panic to get away. trying to stop one guy could hurt one guy, plus maybe a few pedestrians. Trying to stop 50 of them could hurt 50 guys, a pile of pedestrians, people in other vehicles, and police.
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mobby_6kl posted:That's strength in numbers. Yeah. And here's what happens when the cops teach people that rule of law isn't something they're going to worry about : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollywood_Stuntz_gang_assault Powershift posted:One guy isn't going to fight back against 6 cops. one guy isn't going to run into himself in a panic to get away. trying to stop one guy could hurt one guy, plus maybe a few pedestrians. Trying to stop 50 of them could hurt 50 guys, a pile of pedestrians, people in other vehicles, and police. I'm not arguing for a pursuit policy. I'm arguing for gathering evidence and charging the perpetrators with the crimes they've committed. But the argument "If everyone's breaking the law you shouldn't enforce it because it's dangerous" is one that has some pretty perverse incentives.
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Phanatic posted:Yeah. And here's what happens when the cops teach people that rule of law isn't something they're going to worry about : The secret to dealing with herds of bikers is not to be PCOS Bill. 
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There is a large group of them here in Atlanta too. They have their own instagram account. https://www.instagram.com/atlbikelife/?hl=en
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The secret to dealing with dangerous lawbreakers is to enforce the law. Even if that means arresting a lot of people. *Especially* if that means arresting a lot of people because having a bunch of people confident that the police won't do anything to them if they break the law in a dangerous fashion is not a good thing.
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Really, you'd think that people riding like dicks in traffic with little or no gear would be the kind of problem that solves itself.
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Phanatic posted:Yeah. And here's what happens when the cops teach people that rule of law isn't something they're going to worry about : They do that, but there is no fear in the community of being stopped and arrested for riding a dirtbike down the street because that community encouters that every day of every week doing everything a person would normally do. there's a documentary on these guys called 12 o' clock boys The police try to pick a few out of every ride, follow them and seize the bike. They have more than a few.  The can't put every cop in the city on a groups of people who really aren't hurting anything so they can arrest each and every rider every ride
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Powershift posted:there's a documentary on these guys called 12 o' clock boys The police try to pick a few out of every ride, follow them and seize the bike. They have more than a few. Thanks, I just read a review of that. http://www.avclub.com/review/without-clear-agenda-12-oclock-boys-examines-balti-200976 "Named after the nearly vertical angle at which they ride their dirt bikes, the 12 O’Clock Boys are at once a relatively benign Baltimore “gang” (especially relative to the activity so memorably detailed in The Wire) and a rowdy public menace responsible for a dozen or so accidental deaths every year." "A dozen or so" accidental deaths every year, in one city? You don't have the put every cop in the city on them every day, to arrest each and every rider every ride. You just have to crack down on it hard enough send the message that it won't be tolerated and will no longer be a permitted activity. Lots of people show up at illegal street races too, that's not a reason to not shut them down.
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The correct solution is to install hydraulic bollards into every intersection. Light turns red? They all pop out of the pavement. If a turning vehicle wants access to the cross street, sensors will detect them and retract appropriately. 
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How many of those bikes are bought and paid for? If you see an unplated trail bike being ridden by some hoodie teenager here, then it's really, really likely to be stolen, or "bought" in the "fifty quid off of big Mike down the pub" sense. Though at least their riding is just annoying. The scooter-riding twats in London use the bikes to go commit other crimes, largely including stealing more bikes and assaulting people. Now those dickheads should be pursued and caught, though them disappearing under a skip lorry would be perfectly acceptable too.
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monsterzero posted:The secret to dealing with herds of bikers is not to be PCOS Bill. I live in PA. My AR15 rides shotgun. Or, well... you know.
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Do we know D.C. has this problem or did the Baltimore guys just take a day trip down here? I've honestly never seen them in D.C. before but I'm not hanging around on the street very often.
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xzzy posted:The correct solution is to install hydraulic bollards into every intersection. Light turns red? They all pop out of the pavement. If a turning vehicle wants access to the cross street, sensors will detect them and retract appropriately. http://futurenetsecurity.com/products/active-barriers/grab-300-astm-m50/
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Block the road on both sides, arrest anyone not in or on a street-legal vehicle, feed the confiscated bikes into an industrial shredder. Anyone with prior arrests for the same thing can remain on their vehicle for this process.
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