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*Ref and video ref see the replay showing the clear offside, have a conversation agreeing on these facts* Poite (to the captains): "Gentlemen, lets make a deal about the offside" Read: "Uh Romain...that's not the law, he's in front" Poite: "Scrum  "
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Jul 8, 2017 10:31
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Only marginally better than the wallabies... Sad...
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Jul 8, 2017 10:32
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Jul 8, 2017 10:32
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That's the worst all blacks game i've seen in my entire life
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Smorgasbord posted:*Ref and video ref see the replay showing the clear offside, have a conversation agreeing on these facts* He needs to be sacked.
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Jul 8, 2017 10:33
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A poo poo end to a poo poo game. Exactly what everyone deserves.
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Gatlandball successfully grinds rugby union to a halt. Everyone concludes rugby is silly. Garland is eventually hung for crimes against humanity.
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Jul 8, 2017 10:34
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So bizarre but before the series everyone was saying 3-0 so I guess well done guys?
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WMain00 posted:Gatlandball successfully grinds rugby union to a halt. Look! He's ascending!
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Read is in shock.
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butros posted:Read is in shock. Desperately trying to not give his real opinion about Poite.
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bigfoot again posted:So bizarre but before the series everyone was saying 3-0 so I guess well done guys? Mate, they were crowing about 10-0...
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Jul 8, 2017 10:36
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Has nobody actually ever looked at the rules of rugby and thought none of this poo poo makes any sense
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butros posted:Read is in shock. I've got a lot of respect for that dude.
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Jul 8, 2017 10:39
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World Rugby website page for the law on offside is down: http://laws.worldrugby.org/?law=11.6&language=EN
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Wandle Cax posted:Has nobody actually ever looked at the rules of rugby and thought none of this poo poo makes any sense I say this all the time. It's a bad sport. The basic tackle, scrum and maul encounters don't work without a massively complex set of arbitrary rules that aren't practically refereeable.
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Jul 8, 2017 10:42
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Ratios and Tendency posted:I say this all the time. It's a bad sport. The basic tackle, scrum and maul encounters don't work without a massively complex set of arbitrary rules that aren't practically refereeable. So much of it is up to the ref's interpretation but then a lot of the time the letter of the law is upheld despite being totally against the flow of the game or any fault of any player. the whole thing's a mess
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Jul 8, 2017 10:45
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butros posted:World Rugby website page for the law on offside is down: Hey it's loading again: (b) When a player hands the ball to a team-mate in front of the first player, the receiver is offside. Unless the receiver is considered to be intentionally offside (in which case a penalty kick is awarded), the receiver is accidentally offside and a scrum is formed with the opposing team throwing in the ball.
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Jul 8, 2017 10:47
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butros posted:Read is in shock. Me too.
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Jul 8, 2017 10:49
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The bigger question is why did he not let advantage play? Why call it back at all?
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The Rabbi T. White posted:The bigger question is why did he not let advantage play? Why call it back at all? It's been a long morning already and gently caress trying to read the mind of a French referee, but letting play go would have made more sense if it was an accidental offside. I think Poite needed the time to think it through but interpretation breaks don't lend themselves well to a fast flowing game.
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Jul 8, 2017 10:58
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Poite could have made any number of decisions 1) Ruled Read didn't compete for the ball, and just made contact with Williams in the air. Penalty Lions 2) Ruled Williams didn't knock-on (as he never had possession and it didn't hit his arm/hands). Play on. But as he stated there was a knock-on, he was left with 2 options. Accidental offside if he really believed: "When an offside player cannot avoid being touched by the ball or by a team-mate carrying it, the player is accidentally offside" But more likely a penalty to the All Blacks as "When a player knocks-on and an offside team-mate next plays the ball, the offside player is liable to sanction if playing the ball prevented an opponent from gaining an advantage." My first reaction was it hit Williams' back/shoulder, so wasn't really a knock-on. (Just viewed it again and it clearly hit his arm on the way down). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10MshOuObxY Edit: Currently laughing at the sheer number of people on Twitter claiming that "accidental offside" doesn't exist in rugby stavros880 fucked around with this message at 12:08 on Jul 8, 2017 |
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Jul 8, 2017 10:58
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Is it time to bring up the penalty-distance-should-affect-points discussion again? Three points from behind the halfway seems a bit much.
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stavros880 posted:Poite could have made any number of decisions That ball was going to hit him anyway, but he probably shouldnt have grabbed it then dropped it with a "Oops i done hosed up" look slapped all over his face
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During the entire tour, The Lions managed to pull ahead of NZ for a total on 3 minutes.
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On the flip side. NZ managed to draw a tour by only being behind for 3 minutes total. Bottle job 
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On a happier note, the Waratahs were beaten 40-27 by the Jaguares. What's surprising about this is that it was in Sydney.
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Reade has the most tact of any sportsman I can recall seeing. There is no way in hell I'd be able to show that level of restraint after what was pretty clearly a blown call. For me as a non-British, non-Kiwi rugby fan, though, I thought it was a hilarious ending. The expressions on the player's faces, oh man.
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Jul 10, 2017 02:58
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Except it was the right call, even if his process in reaching it (i.e. first blowing a penalty and then taking it back) was crap.
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I can see why it could be correct, yes. But at the time Reade had no way of telling that.
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That's what I was talking about, how he managed to avoid losing his cool despite it. Truly, a sport of gentlemen.
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Apollodorus posted:Truly, a sport of gentlemen.
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Unimpressed posted:Except it was the right call, even if his process in reaching it (i.e. first blowing a penalty and then taking it back) was crap. But then he should've just let play continue as the ABs were playing advantage just fine and looking like scoring?
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The offside guy played the ball. For as long as I've been aware accidental offside is for when the player doesn't; like getting the ball kicked into him or being run into by the ball carrier. Or is that not the actual rule?
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Ratios and Tendency posted:The offside guy played the ball. For as long as I've been aware accidental offside is for when the player doesn't; like getting the ball kicked into him or being run into by the ball carrier. Or is that not the actual rule? They're choosing to ignore that fact because it doesn't support their bias.
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It's a month to Ospreys vs Bath, if any goons want to sit pitchside, and watch the greatest Fly-Half in Wales play against Dan Biggar. I think a few people were interested in it when it was a potential semi-final, rather than a sham Friendly?
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The Barbarians have secured a Player Release Agreement with Premiership Rugby, allowing them to field the their choice of Aviva Premiership players against New Zealand on November 4th, and they plan to select The Lions team that played in the 2nd and 3rd test. Because the game takes place the day before the International Window, the players' respective countries don't even have a say in selection. Anyone currently playing in England is up for grabs. If The Pro 12 also consent, The Barbarians can select the entire team. The only players not currently covered by the agreement are : Jonathan Davies, Jonny Sexton, Conor Murray, Sean O'Brien, Sam Warburton, Alun Wyn Jones, Tasdjkasd Furlong. Robbie Deans will coach the squad. - Even if The
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Double checked both stories: Western Mail says Premiership Rugby (who control the players' club contracts) have given it the go-ahead. The Guardian says the RFU (who control the England international team) wish to block the release, contesting that it does fall within the International Release Window, after all. So I guess this is instance #98324 of England ruining rugby for everyone else?
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