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Enchanted Hat: Aug 18, 2013; Defeated in Diplomacy under suspicious circumstances

tuo posted:

That's fraud. I don't know the correct english term, in German this is a perfect example for Insolvenzbetrug (translates to something like bankruptcy fraud). You go to jail for something like that.

Depending on how they do it it may be perfectly legal under English law. Check the link I posted.

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Ursine Catastrophe: Nov 9, 2009; It's a lovely morning in the void and you are a horrible lady-in-waiting.

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Harbinger73 posted:

Indeed, that's why I have Chris in hiding in #5. He'd be living it up in some non-extradition country in this particular scenario.

Of course the particular company I linked (which was founded less than 2 weeks ago) could simply be for the purposes of a well known tax dodge where the parent company transfers all rights to a new company which in turn charges the parent company for each use of said rights.

Who knows for sure?

Honestly I doubt it, if only for the sake of "why would he bother with living with a warrant on his head if he can just walk away with whatever cash he's got left". If he's already trying to get external funding and it doesn't show up before the collapse, he'll know there's no point in trying to continue the project unless he wants to put his own retirement fund into it.

When it dies he'll just blame derek for being derek and his cultists for not being supportive enough, at which point all the ones who are left will devour each other in a massive self-consuming frenzy of which among them didn't believe hard enough. Then he'll molyneux off into the grey havens and everyone who still bought into the dream until the bitter end will cry themselves to sleep over what could have been.

# ? Sep 9, 2017 13:31

I Greyhound: Apr 22, 2008; MusicKrew Dawn Patrol

It still baffles me how much time and effort Citizens spend dreaming about the most mundane poo poo like dress code enforcement in a game that doesn't even have the most basic play mechanics set.

quote:

As mentioned in ATV, they want to make it so you aren't just running around with your helmet on all the time. To make it expensive or otherwise desirable NOT to be wearing it 24/7 to create interesting moments when you are running to suit up.
Thoughts?
Imo, few potential ideas:
Helmets cut off peripheral vision (We've already seen this on a few)
Helmets emit signature via electronics (easier for others to spot with helmet on?)
Sound is simulated with helmets on (Thus hearing pewpew in space) and I imagine some forms of tech could screw with that function. Either blasting the unfortunate person with white-noise or making the other person effectively silent. Suppressors via hacking for instance.
Likewise with hacking and helmet hud's, someone could blackout your view or spam a bunch of crap onto it.
As noted, expensive due to Oxygen, Wear and energy costs. Save on battery, maintenance and oxygen by not wearing it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/6ywjfq/thoughts_on_making_wearing_your_helmet_expensive/

# ? Sep 9, 2017 13:34

peter gabriel: Nov 8, 2011; Hello Commandos

Lone Echo is the biggest SC troll I've seen.
In the first hour or so you have to manually go and grab a load of cargo in zero G and place it by hand into its correct place, then go tend to some plants and then gently caress around with some dials to make the atmosphere liveable for the plant-life, then go and repair a comm array by hand and explore a mining facility lol
It even has a much, much better version of mobi glass

# ? Sep 9, 2017 13:59

Differo Cathedra: Oct 9, 2012; To be honest it was 4AM when I started making the gif and even I don't know what it's supposed to be about by the time I finished it an hour and a few GIS searches later

Truga posted:

MADNESS

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# ? Sep 9, 2017 14:01

VictorianQueerLit: Aug 25, 2017

On this episode of Extinction Level Event with Derek Smart

(Derek)"Yes.....Yes I'm seeing the ELE now.........It's becoming more clear. It starts with a B.....or maybe a P......or maybe a Z......or maybe an E.......T..............C...........D.......V...A....F
(audience member) Uhhhh face tracking?
(Derek) CALLED IT. Facial Tracking. I'm...hearing another ELE now....unconfirmed reports....has to do with...money? assets? companies? holdings? employees? taxes?
(audience member) 2016 Tax filings?
(Derek) CALLED IT. 2016 Tax filings.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIoMfVNVx4g

# ? Sep 9, 2017 14:19

Nanako the Narc: Sep 6, 2011

tuo posted:

That's fraud. I don't know the correct english term, in German this is a perfect example for Insolvenzbetrug (translates to something like bankruptcy fraud). You go to jail for something like that.

Yeah, similarly in UK law this would also be likely seen as fraud. Further, the money transferred into the shell company would almost certainly be considered a 'transaction at an undervalue' and be reversible by a liquidator/administrator. I'm certain the US would have similar laws for such blatant attempts to defraud creditors.

That said, that company you linked to on CH does seem to lend credence to the theory that Crobberts was trying to sell tech/rights/whatever at Gamescom; after all, if you're going to get into the IP business, it doesn't hurt to create a new company devoted to that business, right?

# ? Sep 9, 2017 14:21

happyhippy: Feb 21, 2005; Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup; Pillbug

I Greyhound posted:

It still baffles me how much time and effort Citizens spend dreaming about the most mundane poo poo like dress code enforcement in a game that doesn't even have the most basic play mechanics set.

You know what I am going to do in a near infinite universe with thousands of NPCs, thousands of quests, and untold avenues of adventure and excitement?
Bitch at other commanders for not wearing what I want them to wear.

# ? Sep 9, 2017 14:24

SomethingJones: Mar 6, 2016; <3

D_Smart posted:

I don't know what blog you are referring to, but the first time I mention Evocati was back when they first announced it.

They basically went from this: Dev -> QA -> PTU -> Live

To this: Dev -> QA -> Evocati -> PTU -> Live

And between Evocati and PTU, the still found a way to profit by allowing subscribers to access that build. Anyone non-subscriber is hosed, and needs to subscribe if they didn't want to wait.

Yeah, got it, what happened you see is my eyes were burned out by the time I got to the bit were you explained it

I figured it out during the 8 hours I spent inside a decompression tank having resurfaced too quickly from a Derek Smart blog

# ? Sep 9, 2017 14:40

Quavers: Feb 26, 2016; You clearly don't understand game development

Latin Pheonix posted:

Yeah, similarly in UK law this would also be likely seen as fraud. Further, the money transferred into the shell company would almost certainly be considered a 'transaction at an undervalue' and be reversible by a liquidator/administrator. I'm certain the US would have similar laws for such blatant attempts to defraud creditors.

That said, that company you linked to on CH does seem to lend credence to the theory that Crobberts was trying to sell tech/rights/whatever at Gamescom; after all, if you're going to get into the IP business, it doesn't hurt to create a new company devoted to that business, right?

# ? Sep 9, 2017 14:49

AP: Jul 12, 2004; One Ring to fool them all
One Ring to find them
One Ring to milk them all
and pockets fully line them; Grimey Drawer

# ? Sep 9, 2017 14:50

Quavers: Feb 26, 2016; You clearly don't understand game development

SomethingJones posted:

Yeah, got it, what happened you see is my eyes were burned out by the time I got to the bit were you explained it

I figured it out during the 8 hours I spent inside a decompression tank having resurfaced too quickly from a Derek Smart blog

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Colostomy Bag: Jan 11, 2016; C-Bangin' it

https://twitter.com/SandiGardiner/status/906288816113147904

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Ayn Marx: Dec 21, 2012

It was I
I bought ManOfManyAliases' ships for many American dollars
I stand by this sound investment

# ? Sep 9, 2017 14:54

boviscopophobic: Feb 5, 2016

I thought somebody at CIG recently dismissed toilets as "RP fluff", but apparently there will actually be a bathroom game mechanic?

Confirmed in ATV, pooping mechanic is on the way

# ? Sep 9, 2017 14:58

SomethingJones: Mar 6, 2016; <3

Warning: There are no exits posted on Derek's blogs, you have to find your way out the way you went in. There are people down there, been there for years. And *things*, terrible things.

There are no safety lines or nets, and no rescue is coming. When you see the mist it's time to turn back.

# ? Sep 9, 2017 15:00

vyst: Aug 25, 2009

boviscopophobic posted:

I thought somebody at CIG recently dismissed toilets as "RP fluff", but apparently there will actually be a bathroom game mechanic?

Confirmed in ATV, pooping mechanic is on the way

Lol this game

# ? Sep 9, 2017 15:02

SomethingJones: Mar 6, 2016; <3

boviscopophobic posted:

I thought somebody at CIG recently dismissed toilets as "RP fluff", but apparently there will actually be a bathroom game mechanic?

Confirmed in ATV, pooping mechanic is on the way

Of course it is. When your commando wakes up you'll have to wait for his erection to subside then walk him to the toilet and watch him take a wet poo poo.

# ? Sep 9, 2017 15:02

happyhippy: Feb 21, 2005; Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup; Pillbug

Colostomy Bag posted:

https://twitter.com/SandiGardiner/status/906288816113147904

'Concepts'.
Not actual game assets, just something that maybe one day added.
5 years and 180 million later, concept art is still being made.

# ? Sep 9, 2017 15:03

Colostomy Bag: Jan 11, 2016; C-Bangin' it

happyhippy posted:

'Concepts'.
Not actual game assets, just something that maybe one day added.
5 years and 180 million later, concept art is still being made.

You will need a change of clothes after you soil yourself since your starter ship doesn't come with a shitter.

# ? Sep 9, 2017 15:06

ComfyPants: Mar 20, 2002

Latin Pheonix posted:

That said, that company you linked to on CH does seem to lend credence to the theory that Crobberts was trying to sell tech/rights/whatever at Gamescom; after all, if you're going to get into the IP business, it doesn't hurt to create a new company devoted to that business, right?

What would be the chances that CIG would be trying to make a deal with one of these up and coming sandbox space games, like Dual Universe or Hellion, to rebrand the other game as Star Citizen or use a bunch of their CIG's IP for what's left of the backer funds, and then piss right off saying, "Here's your MVP, see you in Monaco!"

# ? Sep 9, 2017 15:06

SomethingJones: Mar 6, 2016; <3

Concept shart

# ? Sep 9, 2017 15:07

Quavers: Feb 26, 2016; You clearly don't understand game development

boviscopophobic posted:

I thought somebody at CIG recently dismissed toilets as "RP fluff", but apparently there will actually be a bathroom game mechanic?

Confirmed in ATV, pooping mechanic is on the way

Upcoming ATV: dev X is creating nine different pooing animations, and dev Y is modelling realistic poo in bowl physics

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Foo Diddley: Oct 29, 2011; cat

Quavers posted:

Upcoming ATV: dev X is creating nine different pooing animations, and dev Y is modelling realistic poo in bowl physics

I wonder how they're going to attach the ping pong balls for that mocap session

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big nipples big life: May 12, 2014

Looking forward to citizens posting about the fidelitous pooping animations on reddit.

# ? Sep 9, 2017 15:18

Berious: Nov 13, 2005

Colostomy Bag posted:

https://twitter.com/SandiGardiner/status/906288816113147904

Any fashion goons want to out themselves by telling us which magazine they archered these from?

# ? Sep 9, 2017 15:19

big nipples big life: May 12, 2014

If it takes CIG a year to mock up 8 men eating how long will it take for one man pooping?

# ? Sep 9, 2017 15:19

happyhippy: Feb 21, 2005; Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup; Pillbug

Foo Diddley posted:

I wonder how they're going to attach the ping pong balls for that mocap session

Someone show Chris Duke Nukem Forever, I want SC to be able to smear poo poo on walls.

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Berious: Nov 13, 2005

happyhippy posted:

I want SC to be able to smear poo poo on walls.

CIG is always hiring

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Berious: Nov 13, 2005

AP posted:

Just over 8 hours till news breaks, unless someone leaks it early.

Please do not tease me like this

# ? Sep 9, 2017 15:28

SomethingJones: Mar 6, 2016; <3

Foo Diddley posted:

I wonder how they're going to attach the ping pong balls for that mocap session

Sandi is flying in specialist ping-pong ball artistes from Bangkok

# ? Sep 9, 2017 15:32

Berious: Nov 13, 2005

I Greyhound posted:

It still baffles me how much time and effort Citizens spend dreaming about the most mundane poo poo like dress code enforcement in a game that doesn't even have the most basic play mechanics set.

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/6ywjfq/thoughts_on_making_wearing_your_helmet_expensive/

Space hall monitor will be the most desirable profession in the verse

e:

catte disapproves of your clothing choices

Berious fucked around with this message at 15:35 on Sep 9, 2017

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peter gabriel: Nov 8, 2011; Hello Commandos

Foo Diddley posted:

I wonder how they're going to attach the ping pong balls for that mocap session

They'll use peanuts

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Beet Wagon: Oct 19, 2015

ComfyPants posted:

What would be the chances that CIG would be trying to make a deal with one of these up and coming sandbox space games, like Dual Universe or Hellion, to rebrand the other game as Star Citizen or use a bunch of their CIG's IP for what's left of the backer funds, and then piss right off saying, "Here's your MVP, see you in Monaco!"

Nah, Chris is too invested in His Vision, he's gonna ride this bomb all the way down.

# ? Sep 9, 2017 15:48

Mirificus: Oct 29, 2004; Kings need not raise their voices to be heard

Mirificus posted:

Eurogamer: Chris Roberts "a bit too ambitious"

Wing Commander designer talks about his departure from Digital Anvil as the company is bought out by Microsoft posted:
In the wake of the collapse of Digital Anvil, co-founder and soon-to-be-former CEO Chris Roberts has spoken about his decision to leave the company he founded just four years ago. As we suspected, the company's troubles were down to "wanting to develop not only hugely ambitious games, but too many hugely ambitious games", leaving the company's finances stretched after four years without a single game being released - the sole title to emerge with the Digital Anvil name on it was actually mostly developed by a small British company.

Having left the monolithic corporate world that is Electronic Arts almost five years ago to found Digital Anvil in the first place, it is somewhat ironic that his dream development studio is now being taken over by the monolithic corporate world that is Microsoft, and Roberts has confirmed that his decision to leave the company is simply because he has no desire to find himself in the same situation again.

We also have confirmation on the status of Digital Anvil's various games, with Chris Roberts apparently "spending a fair amount of time talking to other publishers" at the moment, trying to find a home for real-time strategy game "Conquest", which was dropped by Microsoft a few weeks ago, triggering the crisis that has lead to the company's demise. "Loose Cannon" will also be looking for a new publisher, with project lead Tony Zurovec leaving the company to complete the game elsewhere. Erin Roberts will be staying on at Digital Anvil though, continuing his work on an as-yet unannounced Xbox title.

But what next for Chris Roberts, the man who brought us the groundbreaking Wing Commander series? "I just want to see Freelancer out the door, and then I want to take some time to reassess everything. Taking three and a half to four years to build a massive title just seems like a huge amount of effort. There needs to be a better way to do it."

Rather worryingly though, according to GameSpot "he has expressed his interest to work in film and exploit broadband technology to us recently". Oh please god, no! Anybody who has had the misfortune to see the truly appalling Wing Commander movie will be praying that Chris has a sudden change of heart. Although he has produced some impressive games in his time, his debut movie was something of an unmitigated disaster, flopping at the box office and featuring some hilariously bad acting and dialogue which would be perfectly at home in a computer game cutscene, but just looks plain ridiculous on the big screen. We can but hope...
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/article_29857

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Warhawk109: Mar 13, 2017

Harbinger73 posted:

Just an ELE theory I posted on Discord:

CIG set up a new shell company and transfer the last of the backer funds to it.

CIG declare bankruptcy, the entire development team is laid off and all the current backers are screwed as they end up in the back of any queue for any money that comes from liquidation of unclaimed assets.

Coutts swoops in to claim the IP/Assets they got in the loan deal and set about to hold a public auction to sell them off to the highest bidder.

CIGs new shell company attempts to buy them up with the money they embessled in the dying days.

CIGs new shell company (with Chris Roberts as a silent partner in hiding) announces they're going to bring the game to release but they will be unable to honour anywhere close to CIG's ridiculous list of promises and they definitely won't be able to give everyone who's already paid a copy of the game for free, they will instead offer it at a reduced rate for all backers who lost money.

Profit

"Nature of business (SIC)

69109 - Activities of patent and copyright agents; other legal activities not elsewhere classified"

I wonder just what exactly this company will be used for, since all copyrights were put up as collateral for the Coutts loan.

# ? Sep 9, 2017 15:51

Nanako the Narc: Sep 6, 2011

ComfyPants posted:

What would be the chances that CIG would be trying to make a deal with one of these up and coming sandbox space games, like Dual Universe or Hellion, to rebrand the other game as Star Citizen or use a bunch of their CIG's IP for what's left of the backer funds, and then piss right off saying, "Here's your MVP, see you in Monaco!"

It wouldn't be the first time a crowdfunded studio has done that.

# ? Sep 9, 2017 15:54

Berious: Nov 13, 2005

You know who I feel bad for in all this mess? Coutts and Co - bankers to rich toffs and tax dodgers. They were too old fashioned and fuddy duddy to realise their collateral isn't worth the pixels it was printed on

# ? Sep 9, 2017 15:58

Mirificus: Oct 29, 2004; Kings need not raise their voices to be heard

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Blue On Blue: Nov 14, 2012

Chris even said in the interview when digital anvil was bought out, that his job was to go around and try to unload all the engineering debt on another publisher

Would it surprise anyone if he's doing the same thing again , before his company folds or is bought out by the bank

Once again , he's playing the steps to a tee just like before

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