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| Golf GTI / R / R32 |
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196 | 0.02% |
| Impreza WRX / STi |
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133 | 0.01% |
| Mazdaspeed 3 |
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92 | 0.01% |
| Veloster Turbo |
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20 | 0.00% |
| Focus ST |
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149 | 0.01% |
| Other Hot Hatch |
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230 | 0.02% |
| Elantra GT |
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1000001 | 99.92% |
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pr0craztinazn posted:Rhyno: In the Mid-Atlantic area, no option FiSTs are maybe $1000 more expensive than the car you linked before taxes and tags if you're willing to bargain. If you qualify for 0% financing, payments would be pretty cheap. I really want the recaros and a sunroof!
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Sep 16, 2017 23:37
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veedubfreak posted:Anyone happen to use those drive safe programs through their insurance? I just installed mine today for State Farm. Get 5% off just for signing up, but they claim I can get discounted up to 50%. I assume thats for cars that never get driven. It's just a little gps device that talks to my phone via blutooth vs the OBDII devices other companies use. Wish they had told me about this poo poo last year when I quit my job. I've barely put 1500 miles on my car in a year. I did it for my old Ranger when it first came out on Progressive, and saved 30% on it since I basically parked it for most of the time. But I don't think I'd save anything with them now so I don't use them.
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Sep 16, 2017 23:38
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veedubfreak posted:This is only true if you compare a tuned gti to a stock R. The R has a different head and bigger turbo. Stage 1 is close to 400 hp on the R The Golf-R turbo literally bolts on and is cheap. They sell the GTI motor with the Golf-R turbo outside the US.
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Sep 16, 2017 23:39
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BlackMK4 posted:The Golf-R turbo literally bolts on and is cheap. They sell the GTI motor with the Golf-R turbo outside the US. The AWD doesn't bolt on tho, and that was the main reason I bought the car.
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Sep 16, 2017 23:41
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Rhyno posted:Edit: So I'm probably jumping the gun since I haven't sold the MS6 yet but this one righter here checks all the boxes. Doooooo ittttt!
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Sep 17, 2017 02:44
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Yeah progressive was 30% off if you dont brake (run redlights) and drive under 200 miles a week. It was only 6 months then permanent but i moved states and having to redo now. The 350z got garaged when i bought a veloster turbo specifically for ins. $1800 a year 350z vs $700 a year veloster turbo justifies tuning and what not.
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Sep 17, 2017 03:44
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Huge_Midget posted:Doooooo ittttt! I want a sunroof so this one is out. If I were to pull the trigger this week the best option is a black 2016 with Recaros and a sunroof. Like $15K.
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Sep 17, 2017 03:46
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veedubfreak posted:This is only true if you compare a tuned gti to a stock R. The R has a different head and bigger turbo. Stage 1 is close to 400 hp on the R Well sure, I'm not trying to make a direct comparison between the two. I'm just coming at this from a "likes nice cars but it's not a hobby" kind of perspective. I'm probably going to get a 2016 GTI SE (or Autobanh) with DSG and spring for the stage 1 upgrade. From my admittedly uneducated perspective, it seems that the value for dollar rests around that car setup. I'm open to getting the Golf R but many sources online say that it's not worth the premium. That being said I think that most VW cars are a great deal right now. I follow international economics and the thing about Germany is that it benefits greatly from the Euro being undervalued. As an export powerhouse in the EU, Germany is able to sell cars that are tremendous value for money (while France and other EU consumption economies get poo poo on, but that's a topic for another day). It's one of the main reasons I'm getting a VW.
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Sep 17, 2017 05:41
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If I had it to do over, I'd have sat on my my 11 TDI until they bought it back. But at the time I had a good job and wanted an R. So I got double hosed because I traded in my TDI 6 weeks before the cheat scandal broke. I would have gotten 22k for my TDI on buy back instead of the 12k I got for trade in. And at the time I traded the car in for my R I still assumed I wasn't going to have to quit my job to keep from killing my boss. I don't regret buying my R, i just regret the timing I bought it. Why is it such a loving pain in the rear end to copy a loving picture from my email to imgur. This is what my stupid 58 bug is going to be painted in. Rattle can bright loving red, in the hopes that the standard texting suv whore doesn't mow me down.  Well poo poo, thought this was the VW thread. veedubfreak fucked around with this message at 08:32 on Sep 17, 2017 |
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Sep 17, 2017 08:22
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Edit: I too thought it was the VW thread.
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Sep 17, 2017 08:33
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veedubfreak posted:If I had it to do over, I'd have sat on my my 11 TDI until they bought it back. But at the time I had a good job and wanted an R. So I got double hosed because I traded in my TDI 6 weeks before the cheat scandal broke. I would have gotten 22k for my TDI on buy back instead of the 12k I got for trade in. And at the time I traded the car in for my R I still assumed I wasn't going to have to quit my job to keep from killing my boss. I don't regret buying my R, i just regret the timing I bought it. You are now required by law to turn your bug into a hot hatch. 
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Sep 17, 2017 13:47
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It's a hatch, it just keeps the engine back there. Just gotta make it hot
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Sep 17, 2017 15:11
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Rhyno posted:I want a sunroof Why? Only thing sunroofs are good for is making me hit my head since they take up so much head space.
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Sep 17, 2017 15:18
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Nidhg00670000 posted:Why? Only thing sunroofs are good for is making me hit my head since they take up so much head space. I am a tiny person so they don't get in my way.
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Sep 17, 2017 15:32
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Korbin posted:35 to the wheels with just the tune? Even if I only have access to 91? I'm not sure the numbers, but it is that drat good...even with 91. I would say Accessport -> IC -> DP/exhaust Doing upgrades in this order will allow you to step up on which stage you can tune with the AP I would work your way up to a Stage 3 , then look at getting a custom tune which will wring out a few more HP/TQ With the accessport you also get cool tricks like monitoring of zillions of gauges, flat foot shifting and launch control. Dr.Caligari fucked around with this message at 15:41 on Sep 17, 2017 |
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Sep 17, 2017 15:38
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It really is that ridiculous. Here's what you get from stock -> tune + intake on an RS:
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Sep 17, 2017 15:54
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thetechnoloser posted:accessport first, exhaust second. unless you don't like another 35HP to the wheels. No tune on stock turbo adds 35hp to the wheels. At best, on a very aggressive e30-e50 tune, you can add 20-25ish. However, those ethanol tunes can add nearly 100 peak torque. The size of the turbo is the issue, it's so small it peaks at very low rpm and runs out of steam at the top end. That being said, accessport is still the first mod you should buy, as long as you're willing to flash your ECU.
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Sep 17, 2017 16:52
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veedubfreak posted:If I had it to do over, I'd have sat on my my 11 TDI until they bought it back. But at the time I had a good job and wanted an R. So I got double hosed because I traded in my TDI 6 weeks before the cheat scandal broke. I would have gotten 22k for my TDI on buy back instead of the 12k I got for trade in. And at the time I traded the car in for my R I still assumed I wasn't going to have to quit my job to keep from killing my boss. I don't regret buying my R, i just regret the timing I bought it. you got fair market value for it though. your car's value would have plummeted to 4k within a month of the scandal and you would have waited in limbo for over a year before the settlement was available
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Sep 17, 2017 17:37
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Rhyno posted:I am a tiny person so they don't get in my way. I wanted the sunroof until I drove one with it. I'm 5'9 and wearing a hat in it sucked and it's placed really far back. Also my wife is 6' and it cramped her space way too much.
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Sep 17, 2017 19:01
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My Speed3 is the first car I've ever owned without a sunroof (all the way back to the crank operated ones on my air-cooled bug and Rabbit GTI) and it fuckin' sucks.
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Sep 18, 2017 00:02
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I hate sunroofs and hope to never own another car with one.
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Sep 18, 2017 01:26
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Rhyno posted:Lame. American car buys suck. Gas is cheap now therefore gas is going to be cheap forever.
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Sep 18, 2017 01:59
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Previa_fun posted:Gas is cheap now therefore gas is going to be cheap forever. Well of course.
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Sep 18, 2017 02:00
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PaintVagrant posted:However, those ethanol tunes can add nearly 100 peak torque. The size of the turbo is the issue, it's so small it peaks at very low rpm and runs out of steam at the top end. That being said, accessport is still the first mod you should buy, as long as you're willing to flash your ECU. Have you done an ethanol tune? I've been interested in it, but, beside the custom tune, is there a lot of extra hardware to buy? Now that we have more ethanol carrying stations around here, I would be more open to the idea
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Sep 18, 2017 02:25
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Dr.Caligari posted:Have you done an ethanol tune? I've been interested in it, but, beside the custom tune, is there a lot of extra hardware to buy? Now that we have more ethanol carrying stations around here, I would be more open to the idea It depends on two things, the materials your fuel system is made of and how much fuel it's able to flow. Certain materials commonly used in fuel systems are just not ethanol compatible and corrode/degrade in its presence. Ethanol also has less energy per volume, so you need to flow more fuel to make the same power and even more to make more power. Many factory fuel systems, especially direct injected systems, can not keep up with the requirements of E85. The FiST for example can be tuned for E30 with a stock fuel system but needs an auxiliary system to do E85.
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Sep 18, 2017 03:18
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Rhyno posted:Lame. American car buys suck. Says the guy shopping for a used FiST.  Are you kidding me? You are the reason that it's not going to be sold here anymore. That's pretty much all enthusiasts though. They never put their money where their mouth is when it comes to buying new cars. 
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Sep 18, 2017 03:27
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Dr.Caligari posted:Have you done an ethanol tune? I've been interested in it, but, beside the custom tune, is there a lot of extra hardware to buy? Now that we have more ethanol carrying stations around here, I would be more open to the idea I had an e85 tune on my FRS with no additional parts required and liked the extra grunt but it just wouldn't start at all if it was under 20 degrees out and I lived near Boston at the time so that just wouldn't work. Sure was nice when it worked though and the cricket chirp noise they are known for was gone.
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Sep 18, 2017 03:36
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Larrymer posted:Says the guy shopping for a used FiST. I bought a brand new FiST two years ago but I've been telling everyone who asks about them recently to buy a used one because they're the obvious choice. It's a nine year old platform, it's quite durable, they depreciate like rocks, and aside from Sync 3 and a few paint colors nothing meaningful has changed in the entire US run.
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Sep 18, 2017 03:41
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I don't know who'd be foolish enough to buy a new FiST when a one year old model with 15K on the clock is $4-5K less.
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Sep 18, 2017 04:49
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that's every car
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Sep 18, 2017 05:17
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BraveUlysses posted:that's every car Goes without saying really.
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Sep 18, 2017 05:25
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Dr.Caligari posted:Have you done an ethanol tune? I've been interested in it, but, beside the custom tune, is there a lot of extra hardware to buy? Now that we have more ethanol carrying stations around here, I would be more open to the idea Yeah. Stratifieds off the shelf e30 tune. Was really good! The e30 calculation on a near empty tank was 3 gallons e85 + fill the rest w premium. My car was stock other than an FMIC, which you will need to run any aggressive tune.
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Sep 18, 2017 12:21
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Larrymer posted:Says the guy shopping for a used FiST. To be fair, a lot of the cars enthusiasts drool over would require them selling a kidney to afford. The FiST obviously isn't one of those, but I'd say it's more the exception than the rule.
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Sep 18, 2017 15:03
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dissss posted:I'm not sure how I feel about the new Fiesta ST - the three cylinder sounds cool and all but the exterior restyle hasn't done it any favours I'd probably replace the FoST with one if I could. I think the restyle makes it look a bit better resolved, though the back is generic.
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Sep 18, 2017 15:22
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Rhyno posted:I don't know who'd be foolish enough to buy a new FiST when a one year old model with 15K on the clock is $4-5K less. Can't say I wouldn't do the same in this particular case if that's what I was shopping for, just don't bitch and moan about cars like that not coming to America. Because this is exactly why they don't.
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Sep 18, 2017 22:56
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A used manual only hot hatch... one of those cars you know had a tough life.
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Sep 18, 2017 22:57
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Larrymer posted:Can't say I wouldn't do the same in this particular case if that's what I was shopping for, just don't bitch and moan about cars like that not coming to America. Because this is exactly why they don't. People not buying the performance variant new is why the next gen Fiesta isn't coming to the states?
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Sep 18, 2017 23:03
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PaintVagrant posted:Yeah. Stratifieds off the shelf e30 tune. Was really good! The e30 calculation on a near empty tank was 3 gallons e85 + fill the rest w premium. My car was stock other than an FMIC, which you will need to run any aggressive tune. Wait....for only $50 I can get them to send me an OTS e30 tune? I was thinking an ethanol mixture monitor and other stuff were needed Do I need to have access tuner software? The only problem I can see cropping up is that I don't drive my car til it's completely out of fuel, so blindly trying to calculate what grade ethanol my mix is sounds like it could be trouble We can take this to PM's if it's too off topic, but I'm interested to know more about it
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Sep 18, 2017 23:19
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Dr.Caligari posted:Wait....for only $50 I can get them to send me an OTS e30 tune? I was thinking an ethanol mixture monitor and other stuff were needed I think the e30 tune is $75, but yeah. They have ethanol calculator apps if you need em. I had a 93 octane tune as a backup in case I got stuck somewhere without precious corn juice. You don't need tuner software, just an accessport and supporting mods (fmic). They send the tune and you load it on the car with the AP. Because it's off the shelf it's a fairly mild tune with safe parameters, so I never worried about ethanol mix being perfect tbh. It never, and I mean literally never including on a track day, threw a negative ignition correction.
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Sep 18, 2017 23:33
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Rhyno posted:People not buying the performance variant new is why the next gen Fiesta isn't coming to the states? It's just funny to me that you were bitching about American car buyers when you're part of the group that you're complaining about. Manufacturers don't make any money when everybody only wants to buy the car used, so they pull out of that market. 
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