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The Bramble posted:Played as Assimilators who got curb stomped by a ravening horde next door by like year 30. Clearly the influence of unstable, illogical organics was holding me back, as now my Exterminators are the dominant galactic force until the FEs wake up. Hover over a particular ship in a fleet and it'll show you all modifiers impacting on it.
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Demiurge4 posted:It's not that bad. I've been exponentially expanding like crazy by getting robot modding early and keeping a bunch of templates around for whatever I build them on. Yeah, once you get robomodding you should have at least three templates: Your base, and two others to cover the specializations your base model doesn't cover. I started with a science AI and developed Excavators and Generators. I was able to knock the luxury build off my base model and put Mass-Produced on the extra models as well, so initial settlement is a flurry of (relatively) rapid growth, followed by the glamorous nerdbots leisurely setting up.
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Milky Moor posted:Good luck "breaking the deadlock" when you pay 100 minerals per pop. Good luck building equal fleet strength + 1000 when every pop you build is one station or one corvette or an improvement or... You turtle up, you just get out-expanded. You get out-expanded, your robot bonuses don't matter because they'll just have enough of a disparity that a 15% damage bonus just means you die slightly slower. Maybe when you picked the non-diplomacy race you should have been prepared for other people to use diplomacy as a weapon. I was at war with my neighbors until we found the bloodcourt south of us, now we're Presenting a United Front (Federation name).
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MrL_JaKiri posted:People completely loving up basic arithmetic and then doubling down when corrected are my favourite Dyscalculia is a heck of a thing, friend.
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Milky Moor posted:Good luck "breaking the deadlock" when you pay 100 minerals per pop. Good luck building equal fleet strength + 1000 when every pop you build is one station or one corvette or an improvement or... You turtle up, you just get out-expanded. You get out-expanded, your robot bonuses don't matter because they'll just have enough of a disparity that a 15% damage bonus just means you die slightly slower. I don't know man, I'm a few decades into my determined exterminators and have annihilated two empires already (as well as sitting at the top of the empire dogpile). Of course I took bonuses to minerals, but then if you're wanting to play aggressive then that's kinda a requirement not matter what you're playing as.  Edit: Also remember that food tiles can be used for other things if you're playing a robot only civ. I usually put down mines until later when I might want more unity/research. BadOptics fucked around with this message at 16:23 on Sep 22, 2017 |
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Sep 22, 2017 16:18
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If you know you're extremely bad at arithmetic and someone else has wildly different figures then assuming you're correct is even more mind boggling tbh Anyway, bug report: Have the Automated Dreadnought in my fleet, I got it when I had hyperdrive III. Upgraded the rest of my fleet to jump drives and it continues to travel with them (fine), but it applies the 50% travel bonus from HD III to the Jump calculation. This would be great but it's meaning my troop transports get left behind
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Sep 22, 2017 16:18
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Bow before the best machines that will ever be.
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Sep 22, 2017 16:34
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Playstation 4 posted:Bow before the best machines that will ever be. i'm the mass drivers
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Sep 22, 2017 16:39
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Playstation 4 posted:Bow before the best machines that will ever be. 
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Playstation 4 posted:Bow before the best machines that will ever be. The Tingleverse manifest. I assume you will be pounded.
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Sep 22, 2017 17:01
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Truga posted:i'm the mass drivers More like rear end DRIVERS
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Sep 22, 2017 17:03
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M'rear end driver
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Sep 22, 2017 17:07
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 You probably should post all of your races one day, PS4.
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Sep 22, 2017 17:19
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Why does picking a portrait added by a mod set the available trait points to 0? Picking a default one and it works fine. How the hell is that related? Picking a humanoid modded portrait and the traits are 0 even for the non-mod humanoid portraits until I pick a random portrait in another category and then change back but the modded one(s) still doesn't work. Why is the trait points tied to the loving portrait in one specific normal rear end category? 
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Sep 22, 2017 17:56
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One thing I think the game really needs is the ability to retire and have an animated territory map ala Alpha Centauri
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Sep 22, 2017 18:11
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are my fleets not supposed to be able to attack mining stations of people I'm at war with anymore? They fly right up to them and the action says 'attacking', but they never actually start firing or enter into combat.
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Doorknob Slobber posted:are my fleets not supposed to be able to attack mining stations of people I'm at war with anymore? They fly right up to them and the action says 'attacking', but they never actually start firing or enter into combat. I seem to remember something about changing them because they're basically fleet fly paper at present.
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OwlFancier posted:I seem to remember something about changing them because they're basically fleet fly paper at present. I figured it out, had to set my fleet stance to aggressive to get them to engage.
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Sep 22, 2017 18:34
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Playstation 4 posted:Bow before the best machines that will ever be. Rouge servitor indeed. 
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Poil posted:Why does picking a portrait added by a mod set the available trait points to 0? Picking a default one and it works fine. How the hell is that related? Picking a humanoid modded portrait and the traits are 0 even for the non-mod humanoid portraits until I pick a random portrait in another category and then change back but the modded one(s) still doesn't work. Why is the trait points tied to the loving portrait in one specific normal rear end category? Trait points and categories are now added in the species class definition files, almost certainly to deal with the different amount of traits machine races get access to. But this complicates things for portrait modders since they have to manually add those values to their own subcategories. To make things worse, you also have to add them either to a copy of the master traits list or generate an alternative list just for them; I've managed to get it working with a portrait set I've been playing with, but so far my attempts to get more than one working haven't uh... worked. Edit: Oh and I forgot to mention, doing this solution with separate copies of the traits file causes a weird annoyance where you'll have to reselect your traits before every game. MShadowy fucked around with this message at 19:03 on Sep 22, 2017 |
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Sep 22, 2017 18:58
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Dongattack posted:Anyone know how you get the Machine Template System technology required for the Synthetic Age ascension perk? Guessing i need a nerdbot with a certain trait in the research somewhere. Nobody knows yet? I really dislike the trait pre-requisite for research system, it would be good if the game hinted somehow at which trait you needed, but it's just "lol you better just guess!"
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Sep 22, 2017 19:06
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Man why is the cooldown on warp travel so long? It makes wars impossible and just the most annoying thing back to hyperlanes I guess yeesh
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Sep 22, 2017 19:20
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MShadowy posted:Trait points and categories are now added in the species class definition files, almost certainly to deal with the different amount of traits machine races get access to. But this complicates things for portrait modders since they have to manually add those values to their own subcategories.
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Sep 22, 2017 19:26
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Are there any races/builds that are recommended for new players or should I just gently caress around with whatever? I wanted to make a diplomatic plant race.
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Sep 22, 2017 19:51
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Ramadu posted:Man why is the cooldown on warp travel so long? It makes wars impossible and just the most annoying thing Hyperlanes are hands down the best; the only mod I'm currently using restricts everything in the game to hyperlanes. http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=793526440 (Stellaris says it doesn't kill your chance for achievements if that's something important to anyone).
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RobotDogPolice posted:Are there any races/builds that are recommended for new players or should I just gently caress around with whatever? I wanted to make a diplomatic plant race.
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RobotDogPolice posted:Are there any races/builds that are recommended for new players or should I just gently caress around with whatever? I wanted to make a diplomatic plant race. I would steer clear of fanatical purifiers/determined exterminators; except for the exterminators, you're going to be on your own the entire game due to everyone hating your guts (and even other machine empires will get angry at exterminators eventually). Slavers are a challenge in terms of juggling unrest/pop management. Everything else though is fine to start as.
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LordMune posted:I can't reproduce it internally, chances are you're experiencing a temporary glitch or it's been fixed already. Libluini posted:Welp, in about 7 hours I'm back from work. I'll test this again then. So, I'm back now and looked my save up again. "Identity Sublimation" as a living standard is indeed greyed out now. Seem to be whatever this was, it has resolved itself. Onward to freeing all people of this galaxy from their weak flesh!
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BadOptics posted:I would steer clear of fanatical purifiers/determined exterminators; except for the exterminators, you're going to be on your own the entire game due to everyone hating your guts (and even other machine empires will get angry at exterminators eventually). This. Playing the super purgey variants just makes everyone super eager to team up on you, which will gently caress you up if you don't know what you're doing. Purifier types are also kind of a trap pick if you have Leviathans, not having access to the Merchant Enclaves makes the game way, way harder, and the bonuses you get from it don't come close to evening that out. That's without even getting into the science and growth/happiness bonuses you have to forgo. In related news, I love how the Inward Perfection civic works now.
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PittTheElder posted:This. Playing the super purgey variants just makes everyone super eager to team up on you, which will gently caress you up if you don't know what you're doing. You can and should blow up enclaves as a no-diplo kind of species as soon as you are powerful enough to manage it.
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I feel like regardless of what they pick in species selection, determined exterminators should start on a tomb world.
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Nuclearmonkee posted:You can and should blow up enclaves as a no-diplo kind of species as soon as you are powerful enough to manage it. Definitely, but the rewards for doing so aren't really any good, you're just denying them to the enemy really.
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Fintilgin posted:I feel like regardless of what they pick in species selection, determined exterminators should start on a tomb world.  It's not like machine empires care about habitability; your initial planet choice is more to steer your initial resource composition.
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There's a mod for that, of course. Which is good, as the last mods that allowed such were with base level Stellaris, years ago now. http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1113793938
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So are missile weapons worth it now?
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Both times I've started this game as materialists I've got the 'Fist of God' event chain, which involves hunting down and destroying god-botherers. At the same time however the 'Shrine to the Old Gods' event chain has come up, so my science ships are flying around proving gods actually exist, whilst my warships are ruthlessly persecuting anyone who believes in them. Am I the bad guy?
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dogsarentdangerous posted:Both times I've started this game as materialists I've got the 'Fist of God' event chain, which involves hunting down and destroying god-botherers. At the same time however the 'Shrine to the Old Gods' event chain has come up, so my science ships are flying around proving gods actually exist, whilst my warships are ruthlessly persecuting anyone who believes in them. Am I the bad guy? I feel like it's just an accelerated form of why you should shoot missionaries on sight.
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Axetrain posted:So are missile weapons worth it now? I've been using them and so far they feel a lot better. Edit: I'm sure someone is dissecting the code and crunching numbers to figure out if they really are good to take now.
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I've given two species the infinite expanse of the stars only to a decade later explain very firmly that actually they'd be better off if they stayed home and watched television. Rogue Servitors own.
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Bloodly posted:There's a mod for that, of course. Which is good, as the last mods that allowed such were with base level Stellaris, years ago now. Huh. Makes me think a cute 'extra difficulty' alt-start mod would be something where you start with a few pops on a 'desert' terraformed Mars, and Earth is a tomb world.
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