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packetmantis posted:My family is Latvian, and it looks like there's one sad, drunk, potato-eating rear end in a top hat in HEY GAIL's map. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duchy_of_Livonia
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Elyv posted:Did the people from the non-Germanic areas know some variety of German going in, or would they just pick up what they needed to know along the way? I have an absolute fuckton of German and German-ish ancestors and ancestral relatives who infested Baltic trade ports. One of the very last ones in Danzig who eventually booked it from the advancing Red Army wrote a letter we have somewhere bitching about how that loving Austrian (that bit is more or less verbatim) with the silly mustache was loving up the really good thing he had going [milking the Polish import export market]. Edit: technically that dude is a cousin of some flavor, my most recent ancestor to immigrate was in like 1910
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Grand Prize Winner posted:Were bassists considered off limits or something poo poo yeah they are when there's drummers to be shot
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Ghetto Prince posted:2. Why do random Scots show up in every European war? The Scots sure are a contentions people.
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GreyjoyBastard posted:I have an absolute fuckton of German and German-ish ancestors and ancestral relatives who infested Baltic trade ports.
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HEY GAIL posted:the shores of the baltic are absolutely "central european," just look at the architecture. (my rule of thumb is: those weird little dome things = central europe) It was a plot point in Russian history. Anna I Ivanovna, Empress of All the Russias and Protector of Whoever We Have Liberated From The Poles This Week, was Duchess of Kurland for twenty years from the death of her husband (two weeks after the wedding) until her ascension, whereupon she brought enough Germans to the imperial court that it annoyed the Russian nobility. One of my ancestral cousins was made a senior customs nerd in Ventspils (?) during her tenure as Duchess. 
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GreyjoyBastard posted:One of my ancestral cousins was made a senior customs nerd in Ventspils (?) during her tenure as Duchess.
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Panzeh posted:Yeah, keep in mind the formations were there to maintain control of troops and keep them together to assault/repel assaults. They didn't have radios and had a lot less trust that men wouldn't just disappear back then, so command required men to stay formed. In reality, firing drills were more to make men shoot faster and not have them shoot at things way outside their range(though they did this anyway quite often). It's also super easy to hit something as a lone infantryman if your target is a vast mass of troops compared to one guy behind cover, especially with a musket as a weapon.
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HEY GAIL posted:Most of the areas here that today do not speak German would have spoken german then. The Baltic coastal cities, Silesia. Many of the areas in Bohemia that these guys come from are German speaking, like Prague and Znaim. Everyone else? Probably would've picked it up. Even in Swedish (Finnish) towns of any importance like Wiborg or Åbo you'd find German merchant and tradesman families, and noble families would often have relations all over the place. E.g. Mannerheim's ancestor came from the Netherlands in the 17th century. But even the naked peasants would have quickly picked up some form of pidgin even if they weren't going to pen poetry with it.
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 Since the Aleutians came up (somewhat) recently, I here's a cool photo I found on wwiiafterwii of Kingfishers removing via truck to discreet locations in advance of the Japanese. The confluence of land, air, and sea transportation, all brought together in absurd mishmash due to military exigency... 
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Ghetto Prince posted:2. Why do random Scots show up in every European war? There was massive Scottish emigration to the Baltic region, and then through Poland and Prussia as a whole, through the 16th and 17th century. You still find Poles with surnames like Gawin and Machlejd as a result. A lot of them were well-established merchants (Warsaw had a Scottish mayor in the late 17thc), but lower class Scots would act more like pedlars, carrying packs of goods through the countryside. It's no big step to see these guys drifting into mercenary work. It makes sense that Hegel's guy would be from Aberdeen, as that seems to be where most of the emigration originates. The only really surprising thing is that he ended up so west.
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Mr Enderby posted:There was massive Scottish emigration to the Baltic region, and then through Poland and Prussia as a whole, through the 16th and 17th century. You still find Poles with surnames like Gawin and Machlejd as a result.
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The Lone Badger posted:Simplifying weapon manufacture: a bad thing. No, you see, they simplified it because Soviet industry was lovely (three stone mallets and a drunk pig) to produce the German Uber AK, so the perfect slave German design had to be dumbed down for the Russians to be able to make it. A real country (not communist or Russian) would have been able to make the unadulterated version!
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Mr Enderby posted:There was massive Scottish emigration to the Baltic region, and then through Poland and Prussia as a whole, through the 16th and 17th century. You still find Poles with surnames like Gawin and Machlejd as a result. There were quite a few Scottish mercenaries in the Swedish armies from the late 1500's onward. A friend of mine is writing their Ph.D thesis on them and listed these as some of the sources he is using if anyone is interested: Alexia N.L.Grosjean: Scots and the Swedish State, Diplomacy, Military Service and Ennoblement 1611-1660, (1993, Aberdeen) (Ph.D Thesis) TH. A. Fischer: The Scots in Sweden (1907, Edinburgh) James A. Fallon: Scottish Mercenaries in the service of Denmark and Sweden 1626-1632 (1972, Glasgow) (Ph.D Thesis) Quite a few of them ended up in Finland also, some families still have a surviving Finnish or Swedish branch.
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JcDent posted:No, you see, they simplified it because Soviet industry was lovely (three stone mallets and a drunk pig) to produce the German Uber AK, so the perfect slave German design had to be dumbed down for the Russians to be able to make it. A real country (not communist or Russian) would have been able to make the unadulterated version! It's always fun when people think that straining the limits of industry needlessly is a good thing for a design. They'd probably hate to hear about the MP40. Okay wait the Germans have restored their typical brand of horror: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6dR3oZ0WbI
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xthetenth posted:It's always fun when people think that straining the limits of industry needlessly is a good thing for a design. They'd probably hate to hear about the MP40. Sorry but this is extremely cool.
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Tevery Best posted:Sorry but this is extremely cool. Cool yes. Practical or elegant design? Ha ha ha no.
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Ataxerxes posted:There were quite a few Scottish mercenaries in the Swedish armies from the late 1500's onward. A friend of mine is writing their Ph.D thesis on them and listed these as some of the sources he is using if anyone is interested:
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xthetenth posted:It's always fun when people think that straining the limits of industry needlessly is a good thing for a design. They'd probably hate to hear about the MP40. This one has a bit in the manual about "cenobites" as a possible malfunction during operation: 
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aphid_licker posted:This one has a bit in the manual about "cenobites" as a possible malfunction during operation: among gun enthusiasts this is called "kraut space magic"
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loving GERMANS, GOD
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We know what we like and that happens to be fiddly bits
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*adds a dozen pointless retaining screws to an already overly complex design*
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HEY GAIL posted:loving GERMANS, GOD -Any of my Admirals
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Polikarpov posted:*lovingly adds a dozen pointless retaining screws to an already overly complex design* ftfy
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I just found out the following "Today Edward VII’s sex chair still survives, and is currently held by a private collector who claims that it is still used for it’s purpose. A replica of the chair is on display at the Museum of Sex in Prague." Someone is still loving on a sex chair made for the son of Queen Victoria. 
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Of course that dude had a sex chair.
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How would a chair be specifically for sex
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lolquote:Soon after his arrival, fellow officers arranged for an actress named Nellie Clifden to be smuggled into his quarters. In his diary for 1861, the young Prince made the following entries: StashAugustine fucked around with this message at 03:56 on Sep 24, 2017 |
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Night10194 posted:How would a chair be specifically for sex as a connoisseur of sex furniture I
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Night10194 posted:How would a chair be specifically for sex The Chair  In Operation 
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Complete with tophat, of course.
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HEY GAIL posted:that's what you do in the early 17th century if you want to launch a really big foraging raid, put an infantry on the back of each cav's horse and punch into a territory Why did it work in your era and not his 
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 SeanBeansShako posted:Of course that dude had a sex chair.
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I think someone mentioned "young" somewhere in there, though I could see how a dude if his girth could find the "chair" useful. Also, that museum in Prague was boring, better go to the communism museum.
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Mycroft Holmes posted:The Chair Mannequin fetish?
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Mycroft Holmes posted:The Chair The real power move is to invite a lady over while owning no other piece of furniture.
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Well except the hat stand for the hats you wear.
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