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REC709 for HD, REC2020 for UHD. Digital Cinema is DCI-P3, but REC2020 is comparable.
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Don Lapre posted:I got mine for $2600 and made a $500 claim to citi so net $2100 for my 65" c7p Where do deals like that come up? And where did you then see it for $500 less? I've tried to price match stuff with Chase and if the item is out of stock, they don't do it.
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KingKapalone posted:Where do deals like that come up? And where did you then see it for $500 less? I've tried to price match stuff with Chase and if the item is out of stock, they don't do it. You need to call companies. They cant advertise the prices. Beach Camera is a big one, or message cleveland plasma on avsforum. They will give you a good deal. Then you can use the scam sites like joesAV or cliffsdeals and do price protection with citi or chase or discover.
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Sep 22, 2017 20:47
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That's crazy cc companies will let you price match to known scammers. That can't last forever I'm sure as it's just a money sink for them.
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Sep 22, 2017 21:00
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Per my Chase card. I need to figure out how to use this. quote:Price Protection is a credit card benefit that helps you get the best price on purchases you've made in the US using your Chase card. If you buy a product with your card in the US and you see it advertised for less in print or online within 90 days, you can be reimbursed for the price difference, up to $500 per item with a maximum of $2,500 per year
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bull3964 posted:REC709 for HD, REC2020 for UHD. Those are the color space definitions, which can be thought of as defined as triangles within the total color space.  But to answer GuyGizmo's question, the colors are still made by combining R, G, B light (some displays including LG OLEDs and Samsung QLED also have white emitters). Two things are improved technologically with HDR and Wide Color Gamut. One is that the R, G, and B emitters are more precisely emitting each wavelength, without smearing out. This allows a larger percentage of the color space to be covered.   The other thing is the total range of brightnesses that can be emitted. If you combine the range of colors, the color space, with the range of different brightnesses, you can imagine the combination as a color volume.   By being able to reproduce a larger percentage of the color volume humans can perceive, these new TVs can create an image that is more vivid and more realistic, and which keeps up with the state of the art in theater projection technologies. http://www.rtings.com/tv/tests/picture-quality/color-volume-hdr-dci-p3-and-rec-2020
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Sep 22, 2017 21:09
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Don Lapre posted:You need to call companies. They cant advertise the prices. Beach Camera is a big one, or message cleveland plasma on avsforum. They will give you a good deal. Then you can use the scam sites like joesAV or cliffsdeals and do price protection with citi or chase or discover. Is shipping really $100 on Cleveland Plasma? Got a price quote from them today on an OLED65C7P for $2525. GreenNight fucked around with this message at 21:39 on Sep 22, 2017 |
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Sep 22, 2017 21:15
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GreenNight posted:Is shipping really $100 on Cleveland Plasma? I paid $2600 with no shipping charge. $2525 is a great price. Came fedex in a couple of days.
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Sep 22, 2017 21:52
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I wish that "colors available to the human eye" thing was accurate for me. I'm pretty sure my vision fits firmly within the REC709 colorspace with room to spare.  At least I can enjoy the highlight brightness of HDR.
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Don Lapre posted:I paid $2600 with no shipping charge. $2525 is a great price. Came fedex in a couple of days. I told Chris I couldn't do more than $2300 and he said he'd do $2350 shipping included and no tax, so it looks like I'll be getting one as well!
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GreenNight posted:I told Chris I couldn't do more than $2300 and he said he'd do $2350 shipping included and no tax, so it looks like I'll be getting one as well! God drat good deal.
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Sep 22, 2017 22:31
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What HDMI cables do you recommend? I'm guessing my 2-3 year old cables aren't going to do it anymore for 4k+HDR @ 60hz. This work ok? https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=24187
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GreenNight posted:What HDMI cables do you recommend? I'm guessing my 2-3 year old cables aren't going to do it anymore for 4k+HDR @ 60hz. All of my old cables worked fine, I would test things first before spending money on new cables.
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GreenNight posted:I told Chris I couldn't do more than $2300 and he said he'd do $2350 shipping included and no tax, so it looks like I'll be getting one as well! This is a great deal, congrats on doing something so many others in the thread just couldn't do (pick up the phone).
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Sep 23, 2017 15:37
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Even with the new update, my E6P still keeps doing the "occasionally going to completely black until I reboot it" thing on the PS4 Pro. I know some people said to try switching HDMI cables, is there a recommended brand? Do I remember right that the amazon basics ones are good?
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Sep 23, 2017 16:03
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Mass Drop has the 55 B7 for $1600 or 65 B7 for $2600 https://www.massdrop.com/buy/lg-55-...ce=impactradius
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Sep 23, 2017 16:55
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GreenNight posted:I told Chris I couldn't do more than $2300 and he said he'd do $2350 shipping included and no tax, so it looks like I'll be getting one as well! How are they able to sell these for so cheap and why would they? Never heard of them so not like they're pushing a lot of volume to make up for the lower margin.
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KingKapalone posted:How are they able to sell these for so cheap and why would they? Never heard of them so not like they're pushing a lot of volume to make up for the lower margin. Because now you've heard of them.
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Sep 23, 2017 19:30
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Chris is kind of an rear end in a top hat, he'll yell at you over the phone if you are mistaken about something. I don't care, got a good deal. I have no clue about calibration and I'm not spending any money so next weekend I'll be browsing rtings for general calibration settings.
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Sep 23, 2017 20:15
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If you don't have a meter, just leave the ISF settings at their default.
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Sep 23, 2017 20:21
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Yeah I wasn't going to change the crazy advanced settings. Just HDR stuff for different inputs. All I got right now is a 4K+HDR Roku, PS3, PC, and Dish box.
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Sep 23, 2017 20:36
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Still just kicking tires but as I'm doing research here it seems the TVs I had picked out are all 60hz, which I dont want. Whats out there in 4K+65+"+120hz? I was leaning towards a Vizio E series but it seems they are 60hz, even one of the M series I looked at was.
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Stefan Prodan posted:Even with the new update, my E6P still keeps doing the "occasionally going to completely black until I reboot it" thing on the PS4 Pro. It seems that a few things can cause this, bad HDMI cables being one (Mine is caused by a defective mainboard in my TV for which god willing I am finally about to get a replacement lined up after a month-long saga. Apparently it is a known issue with Samsung TVs). It turns out a lot of HDMI cables can't quite handle the 19Gb bandwidth necessary to carry 4k60fps10bit video. A few people here can probably recommend specific brands, but in general, shorter is always better because things get really hairy after about 5m. Precious few cables can handle the bandwidth at long distances and they're all hellaexpensive. Over shorter distances most of the most reputable brands should easily manage. Personally I want with a KabelDirekt TOP series in 1.5m flavour. (The fact that that didn't solve the flickering for me is what cemented my suspicion of the mainboard)
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codo27 posted:Still just kicking tires but as I'm doing research here it seems the TVs I had picked out are all 60hz, which I dont want. Whats out there in 4K+65+"+120hz? I was leaning towards a Vizio E series but it seems they are 60hz, even one of the M series I looked at was. I don't remember if you had other constraints, but here are a few displays with 4k/65"/120 hz. I don't have any of these but they tend to get good reviews. Vizio P series Sony x900e Samsung MU8000 LG's C7 OLED panels, if you can pony up the dough
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Sep 25, 2017 07:22
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The interesting thing is, the 60hz M somehow passes the 24p judder test with rtings. I can only assume they are somehow pulling this trickery off with BFI.
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Sep 25, 2017 13:51
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Ugh forget the OLED even those are too much right now unfortunately. The 55" versions of the Samsung and Sony are 1599 and 1999 right now. Money aside though from what I've read about OLED its out for me atm because motion is very important to me. How important is HDR? I would say for me clarity is more important that color when it comes to my picture. I want things to be sharp. I game here on PC so I'll only ever be watching hockey on whatever I buy, with the occasional movie and TV show thrown in. I guess I should "go to the store and look at them" but to me it seems you either get some lovely signal split to every TV or the super over produced test suite that nothing else will ever look as good as. Anyone have a Vizio D series? I may settle for 60hz given some of the reviews I've read about the motion effects on some of them.
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The D series is the bottom of the barrel on TV's man. At the minimum get the E series or a TCL.
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I would think a Vizio D would still be head and shoulders above your RCA/Westinghouse/etc? But yeah I know, as time goes on though I keep lowering my standards as I itch to upgrade.
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Sep 25, 2017 15:34
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Sometimes 60hz is the max refresh rate, but the TV can also operate at 48hz showing each frame twice for 24hz playback.
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Sep 25, 2017 15:47
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If that's indeed what it is doing, then there's no real reason to want 120hz unless you are a motion interpolation junkie.
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codo27 posted:Ugh forget the OLED even those are too much right now unfortunately. The 55" versions of the Samsung and Sony are 1599 and 1999 right now.
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Sep 25, 2017 16:21
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Yes I am in Canada and I am an interpolation junkie, I wouldn't watch anything without it anymore
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Sep 25, 2017 16:48
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Is there anything right about Canadians?
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I think if you dont like the motion interpolation you might as well go get an old black and white floor model and watch it connected with coax
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codo27 posted:I think if you dont like the motion interpolation you might as well go get an old black and white floor model and watch it connected with coax You are objectively wrong and the people who make movies and tv shows hate you.
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Sep 25, 2017 18:28
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the artificial smoothening poo poo is the absolute worst feature of new-ish TVs and I turn it off on all of them
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Sep 25, 2017 18:31
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I've never watched that show nor do I care about it or its archaic creators. If you want to watch slow motion, thats fine. I prefer more natural, true-to-life motion
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Sep 25, 2017 18:31
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It's not natural at all, motion interpolation is inherently artificial and less "true to life". But whatever, your money and your TV you don't need our permission to run showroom settings and turn on all of the compensation features that manufacturers provide. Just don't defend it here, that poo poo sucks 
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codo27 posted:I've never watched that show nor do I care about it or its archaic creators. If you want to watch slow motion, thats fine. I prefer more natural, true-to-life motion oh I get it this is a good troll tbh
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The only people I know who have it on are the elderly. Are you an elderly? When I get to power, all your kind will be first against the wall. different tastes I guess, but it physically hurts my eyes because half the time it guesswork it does is horribly inaccurate and never looks right.
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