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BrianWilly posted:Jumping into this ep after passing on most of season 3, and I'ma give it a...hmm, a solid B-minus. Not actively bad, and I can see all steps they're trying to take to right the ship and get this show back to something enjoyable again, but I still spent most of this hour yawning through all the requisite drama and motivational speeches. These characters are still some of my favorites on TV, but I don't think I'm ever gonna be as enamored of this show as I used to be. The last part made me hopeful, felt like it was all just an unecesarily elaborate setup to make him get rid of all that angst going forward.
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# ? Oct 11, 2017 07:45 |
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nine-gear crow posted:I love how Killer Frost has gone from a dark and angsty force of evil to just "that bitch Caitlyn turns into when she gets blackout drunk" I would have been 100% okay if they never addressed how she got a back in control of herself, leaving us to assume there wasn't any magic science voodoo involved, but it actually was just her getting in control of herself and not being crazy and evil. "Caitlyn! So, are you still an rear end in a top hat? How did you stop being such a huge loving jerk all the time?" "....." Yeah i guess i wouldn't answer a question like that either.
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# ? Oct 11, 2017 08:07 |
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I can't wait to meet Caitlin's newest disposable love interest.
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# ? Oct 11, 2017 10:00 |
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Iris's whole thing is working for me.
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# ? Oct 11, 2017 11:13 |
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I imagine Caitlin's change is related to why she was working as a bartender and the person the guy with the creepy eye was talking about.
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# ? Oct 11, 2017 11:44 |
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nine-gear crow posted:I love how Killer Frost has gone from a dark and angsty force of evil to just "that bitch Caitlyn turns into when she gets blackout drunk" Well like all dumb things from season 3 they should just find some humor in it and pretend like all the super dark stuff didn't happen.
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# ? Oct 11, 2017 16:29 |
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nine-gear crow posted:Wally whipping out a mouthful of Japanese like nothing. Fantastic Broken badly pronounced Japanese - any other character and I'd assume it was poor research and lack of time but with Wally I am certain it is deliberate.
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# ? Oct 11, 2017 16:37 |
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I'm really hoping that they're using the whole "Reborn" thing to iron out all the wrinkles in Barry's angst. That would mean they listened to the criticism leveled at them, however, which seems unlikely. Still, cautiously optimistic. Everyone worked, which is new. Usually someone is sucking the life from the show in an acting black hole.
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# ? Oct 11, 2017 16:44 |
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What will the new Wells be like?
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# ? Oct 11, 2017 17:54 |
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bentacos posted:What will the new Wells be like? A black hole, and he will also break fourth wall by replying at week-old tweets posted on the #flash hashtag
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# ? Oct 11, 2017 18:00 |
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Rocksicles posted:Iris's whole thing is working for me. Her being in charge of the lab works for me, but the flaws in her writing are still there. She's still a whiny buzzkill, which makes me sad, because Candice Patton is a drat good actress.
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# ? Oct 11, 2017 18:32 |
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I am a really superficial watcher with low standards, but I bailed on Flash last season. It was baaaaaad. Giving new season a try and thoughts: Liking1000 percent. Even the damsel in distress thing because it was purposeful and deliberate. Very much wanted the mechanical man to be Wells but sigh.
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# ? Oct 11, 2017 20:29 |
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Majorian posted:Her being in charge of the lab works for me, but the flaws in her writing are still there. She's still a whiny buzzkill, which makes me sad, because Candice Patton is a drat good actress. It was loving great watching her get half a chance at a decent role for an episode. Had me thinking it'd be worth letting Barry stay in flash limbo if it meant we kept getting that Iris.
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# ? Oct 11, 2017 21:07 |
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I agree with the rest of the thread if this is their way of wiping out Barry's angst, I'm all for it. I really want to know how Caitlin learned to suppress her Killer Frost side
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# ? Oct 11, 2017 21:33 |
Well there was no reason she should have been evil to begin with.
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# ? Oct 12, 2017 00:20 |
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Look Killer Frost is evil in the comics (or was? idk) so clearly she HAS to be evil here and a season long angstbomb waiting to happen instead of just feeling awkward and alienated due to seeing how the alt-universe version went, getting over it, and occasionally busting out the ice powers to help while otherwise just wanting to hold onto her identity as a scientist without weird-rear end ice powers. That doesn't allow for a long, dragged out, obnoxious season-long drama train that everyone's sick of by the second epsiode.
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# ? Oct 12, 2017 00:41 |
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Carlosologist posted:I agree with the rest of the thread if this is their way of wiping out Barry's angst, I'm all for it. I really want to know how Caitlin learned to suppress her Killer Frost side Alcoholism.
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# ? Oct 12, 2017 00:43 |
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Is it just more, or did the CG running look a lot shittier than usual?
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# ? Oct 12, 2017 01:40 |
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okay about half way through and came to a strange conclusion. I always thought iris was the load of the team. with barry gone, she's way more awesome. and the rest of the team feels a lot more legends of tomarrow ish , in a good way. so is barry the load of his own show? edit: and when a samurai asks to duel the flash, tell him he's stuck in dimension and unless he wants to help get him back to be a worthy challenge, he'll have to wait. :p. shades of eternity fucked around with this message at 03:36 on Oct 12, 2017 |
# ? Oct 12, 2017 03:22 |
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Piell posted:Is it just more, or did the CG running look a lot shittier than usual? Barry's little hop up the wind turbine was not good. Wally jumping rooftops at the start was some cool poo poo, though. bentacos posted:What will the new Wells be like? I hope he wears a sombrero.
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# ? Oct 12, 2017 03:31 |
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...and a snively whiplash moustache. :p
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# ? Oct 12, 2017 03:38 |
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shades of eternity posted:edit: and when a samurai asks to duel the flash, tell him he's stuck in dimension and unless he wants to help get him back to be a worthy challenge, he'll have to wait. :p. (spoilered because you said you paused halfway through)Well, that was the point. Shows up right when Cisco is ready to try bringing him back, "welcome home Flash" as the dying message. Everything went according to plan.
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# ? Oct 12, 2017 04:27 |
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As an aside, I thought the Flash suit looked pretty good on Wally, as opposed to the Kid Flash suit which usually looks super bad on him. It basically confirms my suspicion that it's not the actor that's the problem, it's that the Kid Flash suit is just halfassed and ill-fitting.
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# ? Oct 12, 2017 04:36 |
I think it's mostly the mask part, it's goofy lookin.
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# ? Oct 12, 2017 04:40 |
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And since they made Barry a new suit Wally can just use his old one! Problem solved.
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# ? Oct 12, 2017 05:34 |
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So staying in the Speed Force makes you super fast? But I thought the suit is what made Savitar so fast
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# ? Oct 12, 2017 06:10 |
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# ? Oct 12, 2017 06:13 |
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WhyteRyce posted:So staying in the Speed Force makes you super fast? But I thought the suit is what made Savitar so fast Savitar's suit just made him frictionless so he could use all of his speed. Or something.
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# ? Oct 12, 2017 06:27 |
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8one6 posted:Savitar's suit just made him frictionless so he could use all of his speed. fwiw, I believe the explanation for the suit was that Savitar was so fast that without it he would poof into a fine red mist if the tried to run as fast he was able to. Barry doesn't need the Savitar suit because he's the Main Character. Also that thing was stupid expensive to have on screen all the time.
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# ? Oct 12, 2017 06:35 |
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Flash... fun... again? Sorry for the double post.
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# ? Oct 12, 2017 07:20 |
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nine-gear crow posted:fwiw, I believe the explanation for the suit was that Savitar was so fast that without it he would poof into a fine red mist if the tried to run as fast he was able to. Barry doesn't need the Savitar suit because he's the Main Character. Ah, so Barry got faster by being in for 6 months. Savitar actually went back in time, meaning his speed rating did that Final Fantasy negative value rollover glitch
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# ? Oct 12, 2017 07:29 |
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Piell posted:Is it just more, or did the CG running look a lot shittier than usual? Loook bub, you can have Candice Patton wearing various things that seem to be designed by a style wizard, or you can have good special effects. Wizards gotta get paid.
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# ? Oct 12, 2017 08:20 |
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Bruceski posted:(spoilered because you said you paused halfway through)Well, that was the point. Shows up right when Cisco is ready to try bringing him back, "welcome home Flash" as the dying message. Everything went according to plan. Team flash didn't know that though so I did think it's a bit weird they didn't even try.
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# ? Oct 12, 2017 09:34 |
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Avalerion posted:Team flash didn't know that though so I did think it's a bit weird they didn't even try. Barry's not here, man.
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# ? Oct 12, 2017 10:38 |
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Yeah, it's mostly Wally's mask. Not only is it just goofy in general, it sits low and not centered around his eyes. It almost touches the top of his eyes and hangs low to his cheeks, making him look like he's got some droopy, squat eyes. He looked a hell of a lot better in Classic Flash getup. Hoping he'll get a new suit soon.
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# ? Oct 12, 2017 17:26 |
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8one6 posted:Savitar's suit just made him frictionless so he could use all of his speed. Barry's suit is frictionless. Savitar's suit dissipated the static charge that built up when he started getting super-fast.
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# ? Oct 12, 2017 17:47 |
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Wally should get Jay’s hat.
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# ? Oct 12, 2017 17:54 |
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WhyteRyce posted:So staying in the Speed Force makes you super fast? But I thought the suit is what made Savitar so fast
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# ? Oct 12, 2017 21:18 |
The moral of the story is that you can fix brain damage with dramatic speeches.
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# ? Oct 13, 2017 02:19 |
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# ? May 11, 2024 12:15 |
My notes on this episode: Samurai was actually fun. I liked Joe being everyone's dad and hugging Caitlin.. but Caitlin still bores me. I kinda miss Julian. Also, I think Barry was experiencing every timeline at once? "We need more diapers!" Does that mean we're getting the Tornado Twins?? Candice Patton is a treasure. Also have a pretty spoiler: https://i.imgur.com/bLCI9wp.jpg
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