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ulvir posted:finally found a translation of Voyage au bout de la nuit in my native tongue today I can't see how it would be that hard to find - I remember seeing it in every bookstore in Oslo when I first moved there ten years ago. Try getting your hands on Mort à crédit translated by Mikkel Tin. Foul Fowl posted:william faulkner. you'll immediately see the huge influence he's had on mccarthy. he's also unbelievably difficult to read in some of his books, so i would recommend you start with Light in August or As I Lay Dying, they're relatively accessible. I agree with this, but I definitely recommend As I Lay Dying as the first foray. Light in August is one of them Nobel prize-novels: grand in scope, but more conventional and lacking in nerve and vitality.
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Foul Fowl posted:william faulkner. you'll immediately see the huge influence he's had on mccarthy. he's also unbelievably difficult to read in some of his books, so i would recommend you start with Light in August or As I Lay Dying, they're relatively accessible. Vogler posted:I agree with this, but I definitely recommend As I Lay Dying as the first foray. Light in August is one of them Nobel prize-novels: grand in scope, but more conventional and lacking in nerve and vitality. Thanks. I just read about As I Lay Dying and it says it has 15 narrators. Is it tough to keep track of the various voices?
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Vogler posted:I can't see how it would be that hard to find - I remember seeing it in every bookstore in Oslo when I first moved there ten years ago. Try getting your hands on Mort à crédit translated by Mikkel Tin. its been somewhat absent these past few years now. there’s a bunch of english translations here and there, though. I'll keep an eye out for mort à crédit
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me your dad posted:Thanks. I just read about As I Lay Dying and it says it has 15 narrators. Is it tough to keep track of the various voices? no lol the chapters are titled with the narrators names sanctuary would be another good starting point
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me your dad posted:Thanks. I just read about As I Lay Dying and it says it has 15 narrators. Is it tough to keep track of the various voices? i read that book in one sitting. it‘s one of his easier reads. sanctuary is cool if you like „corn-cobby chronicles“
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Foul Fowl posted:william faulkner. you'll immediately see the huge influence he's had on mccarthy. he's also unbelievably difficult to read in some of his books, so i would recommend you start with Light in August or As I Lay Dying, they're relatively accessible. I'm gonna get me that edition of The Sound and the Fury, from the Folio Society, where it color-codes the different Benjy timelines which is apparently literally what Faulkner ideally wanted to do. It'll be my first time through it so I figure the coding will help me out.
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Vogler posted:I can't see how it would be that hard to find - I remember seeing it in every bookstore in Oslo when I first moved there ten years ago. Try getting your hands on Mort à crédit translated by Mikkel Tin. The short story collection _Go Down, Moses_ is the best place to start with Faulkner. Each story is accessible and they fit together into a whole.
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You know there is an oft mentioned literary paragon in this thread who also writes about masculinity and violence in rural areas like McCarthy but hmmmm who could it be
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Mel Mudkiper posted:You know there is an oft mentioned literary paragon in this thread who also writes about masculinity and violence in rural areas like McCarthy but hmmmm who could it be J.R.R. Tolkien.
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Mel Mudkiper posted:You know there is an oft mentioned literary paragon in this thread who also writes about masculinity and violence in rural areas like McCarthy but hmmmm who could it be yukio mishima
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Mel Mudkiper posted:You know there is an oft mentioned literary paragon in this thread who also writes about masculinity and violence in rural areas like McCarthy but hmmmm who could it be Marlon James
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ulvir posted:yukio mishima This one wins
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Mel Mudkiper posted:You know there is an oft mentioned literary paragon in this thread who also writes about masculinity and violence in rural areas like McCarthy but hmmmm who could it be Cervantes
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I ended up going with Light in August, since I somehow already had a copy on my shelf.
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me your dad posted:I ended up going with Light in August, since I somehow already had a copy on my shelf. Good plan. And don't pay attention to that dweeb who said it was "lacking in nerve and vitality," whatever the hell that means. It's loving great, makes no compromises, takes no prisoners. Also it somehow has the best written "action" scene I've read in any book.
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at the date posted:Good plan. I would use that phrase to describe "The Sound and the Fury" way more easily than "August". Although I don't know that I like Sound any less than August. Both are incredible.
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Jack B Nimble posted:I just read A woman of the Iron People. It was an e book from a bundle so I didn't understand how old the it was; I had this impression it was an example of modern, progressive sci-fi, with intriguing themes. Wrong thread, friend.
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getting near the end of 'love in the time of cholera' and oh, cool twist ending, florintino is a pedophile. great.
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Lispector's The World According to G.H. is really cool. I like claustrophobic, one scene philosophical novels like that.
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love in the time of cholera was pr good, just finished it today. the pedophilia at the end was a gross smear on an otherwise highly enjoyable book. what should i start next, eh? ? ?
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derp posted:love in the time of cholera was pr good, just finished it today. the pedophilia at the end was a gross smear on an otherwise highly enjoyable book. what should i start next, eh? ? ? lolita
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Ali Smith is very good and has a new book called Winter. You should all go read it aa well as her other books.
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Shibawanko posted:Lispector's The World According to G.H. is really cool. I like claustrophobic, one scene philosophical novels like that. I have her Collected Stories but haven't managed to get it to the top of my reading pile. What little I've seen of her prose has been really impressive though.
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mdemone posted:I have her Collected Stories but haven't managed to get it to the top of my reading pile. What little I've seen of her prose has been really impressive though. It's like the dreaming chapter of Solaris, except a whole book. Here's some of my favorite bits: quote:The demonic precedes the human. And the person who sees that presentness burns as if seeing the God. Prehuman divine life is of a presentness that burns. quote:Hell is the mouth that bites and eats the living flesh with its blood, and the one being eaten howls with delight in his eye: hell is pain as delight of the matter, and with the laughter of delight, the tears run in pain. And the tear that comes from the laughter of pain is the opposite of redemption. I was seeing the inexorability of the roach with its ritual mask. I was seeing that that was hell: the cruel acceptance of pain, the solemn lack of pity for one’s own destiny, loving the ritual of life more than one’s own self — that was hell, where the one eating the other’s living face was indulging in the joy of pain. quote:The roach with the white matter was looking at me. I don’t know if it was seeing me, I don’t know what a roach sees. But we were looking at each other, and also I don’t know what a woman sees. But if its eyes weren’t seeing me, its existence was existing me — in the primary world I had entered, beings exist others as a way of seeing one another. And in that world I was coming to know, there are several ways that mean seeing: one a looking at the other without seeing him, one possessing the other, one eating the other, one just being in a place and the other being there too: all that also means seeing. The roach wasn’t seeing me directly, it was with me. The roach wasn’t seeing me with its eyes but with its body. The whole book is just one lady seeing a cockroach and freaking out. It's great.
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Antwan3K posted:Ali Smith is very good and has a new book called Winter. You should all go read it aa well as her other books. How is it compared to autumn? I liked that book quite a bit.
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J_RBG posted:lolita already read it. second favorite book i read this year so far
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So there is a new translation of the Odyssey, which is the first ever translated by a woman, Emily Wilson. First verse is amazing: quote:Tell me about a complicated man.
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thehoodie posted:So there is a new translation of the Odyssey, which is the first ever translated by a woman, Emily Wilson. I really like it, and I'll get a copy. I wish it was paperback, but that's a really small gripe.
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Shibawanko posted:It's like the dreaming chapter of Solaris, except a whole book. Here's some of my favorite bits: if i wanted to read schizophrenic free-association word salad i'd just pick up gertrude stein
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"Tell me about a complicated man" is a simplistic (and unpoetic) translation, especially in light of its predecessors e: quote:Sing in me, Muse, and through me tell the story quote:Tell me, Muse, of the man of many ways, who was driven quote:Sing to me of the man, Muse, the man of twists and turns Eugene V. Dubstep fucked around with this message at 00:59 on Nov 9, 2017 |
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chernobyl kinsman posted:if i wanted to read schizophrenic free-association word salad i'd just pick up gertrude stein I'd like to read both of them, personally.
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at the date posted:"A complicated man" is a pretty simplistic (and unpoetic) translation imo It's bad
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