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Rotoworld posted:Profootballtalk.com reports Browns co-owner Dee Haslam went "nuclear" on the team's front office after it nixed Tuesday's failed A.J. McCarron trade. Hue is a way better politician than head coach
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# ? Nov 2, 2017 02:55 |
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# ? Jun 18, 2024 03:25 |
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Hue has given up on coaching and is gonna coup his way to owner.
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# ? Nov 2, 2017 02:57 |
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I love that it's going nuclear during their loving bye week
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# ? Nov 2, 2017 02:59 |
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Benne posted:Hue is a way better politician than head coach Much as Hue sucks this season if only 1 of those groups wins I'm glad it's him. Statistics lawyer was never qualified.
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# ? Nov 2, 2017 03:00 |
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"Chaos is a ladder"
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# ? Nov 2, 2017 03:22 |
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It's like trying to be king over a kingdom of poo poo.
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# ? Nov 2, 2017 03:34 |
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Hue Macbeth
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# ? Nov 2, 2017 03:35 |
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From the last page: Wait...did the Browns ever beat the Patriots since they were necro'd?
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# ? Nov 2, 2017 03:47 |
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Benne posted:Hue is a way better politician than head coach I like that when I first read the story on the failed trade I thought "what is the most Brown's poo poo possible for how this went down?" and I wasn't disappointed. Haslam is a treasure.
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# ? Nov 2, 2017 03:48 |
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:From the last page: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/game_query.cgi?tm1=cle&tm2=nwe&yr=all
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# ? Nov 2, 2017 03:50 |
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Athanatos posted:https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/game_query.cgi?tm1=cle&tm2=nwe&yr=all The best was this game: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201312080nwe.htm With 2:39 left in the game, the Browns score a TD to go up 26-14.
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# ? Nov 2, 2017 03:52 |
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Hue also got in an extravagant power struggle during his brief Raiders tenure involving a trade for another Bengals quarterback. It is the one thing he is semi-competent at.
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# ? Nov 2, 2017 04:09 |
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Colt McCoy could have been great if he didn't end up on the Browns (and also get concussed into the next year)
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# ? Nov 2, 2017 04:46 |
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Benne posted:Hue is a way better politician than head coach
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# ? Nov 2, 2017 05:14 |
FizFashizzle posted:Peyton Hillis actually provided like one of my two favorite BB moments. quote:When the scoreboard clock finally showed zeros, Patriots Coach Bill Belichick walked slowly across the torn-up field to meet Eric Mangini, his protégé and estranged friend, amid a swarm of players and photographers.
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# ? Nov 2, 2017 05:18 |
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Brian Hoyer was the backup in this game. Time is a flat circle
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# ? Nov 2, 2017 05:41 |
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King Hong Kong posted:Hue also got in an extravagant power struggle during his brief Raiders tenure involving a trade for another Bengals quarterback. It is the one thing he is semi-competent at. I don't think I'd call the Raiders thing a power struggle so much as just taking the reigns when there was no one who felt like they could tell him no. Maybe I'm forgetting something and there was some strong voice in that front office who he was fighting with after Al Davis died.
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# ? Nov 2, 2017 05:45 |
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There's really shockingly very little about it online. If I remember correctly Al Davis died, Hue Jackson just more or less assumed the GM powers, and then made that terrible Carson Palmer trade. When the Raiders hired Reggie McKenzie to permanently fill the GM position he didn't even wait until the ink was done drying before firing Hue. I feel like that doesn't happen unless they are multiple people in that organization, including Mark Davis, who intensely disliked Hue.
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# ? Nov 2, 2017 06:01 |
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Simplex posted:There's really shockingly very little about it online. If I remember correctly Al Davis died, Hue Jackson just more or less assumed the GM powers, and then made that terrible Carson Palmer trade. When the Raiders hired Reggie McKenzie to permanently fill the GM position he didn't even wait until the ink was done drying before firing Hue. I feel like that doesn't happen unless they are multiple people in that organization, including Mark Davis, who intensely disliked Hue. Amy Trask speaks highly of Hue on Twitter, and I’ll take her word over Mark Davis’ eleven times out of ten.
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# ? Nov 2, 2017 07:33 |
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Disband Browns to make way for terrible England expansion
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# ? Nov 2, 2017 09:02 |
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Grittybeard posted:I don't think I'd call the Raiders thing a power struggle so much as just taking the reigns when there was no one who felt like they could tell him no. Maybe I'm forgetting something and there was some strong voice in that front office who he was fighting with after Al Davis died. The problem went back to 2010 when Hue was, in retrospect, absolutely undermining Tom Cable and presumably manipulating Al Davis’s desperation. Thereafter, Hue’s authority was excessive and even if there was not a “power struggle” at the time of the trade, his role was not welcome in the new FO. King Hong Kong fucked around with this message at 16:10 on Nov 2, 2017 |
# ? Nov 2, 2017 16:06 |
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The entire Browns organization needs to be purged root and branch. No top football guy worth hiring will accept anybody that's working there right now.
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# ? Nov 2, 2017 16:55 |
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Why not just sign short term bad QB after the season? Trading makes no sense for a 0 16 team
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# ? Nov 2, 2017 17:00 |
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Ignoring everything else I think have a first year head coach like Hue who had made such a big trade like the Palmer one, wasn't a dynamic any new front office would want going forward. Especially when you consider the entire reconstruction of a scouting department the Raiders required.
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# ? Nov 2, 2017 17:35 |
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They could just sign Colin Kaepernick this season.
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# ? Nov 2, 2017 17:36 |
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I know at this point it's largely splitting hairs, but who's seat is hotter, Pagano's or Jackson's?
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# ? Nov 2, 2017 17:38 |
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iospace posted:I know at this point it's largely splitting hairs, but who's seat is hotter, Pagano's or Jackson's? Well Pagano is a dead man walking, so probably his.
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# ? Nov 2, 2017 17:39 |
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Not to mention that Hue seems to be in the owners' favor
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# ? Nov 2, 2017 17:43 |
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Hue going 2-30 and still getting another year because he cozied up to ownership would be pretty close to peak Browns
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# ? Nov 2, 2017 18:29 |
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iospace posted:I know at this point it's largely splitting hairs, but who's seat is hotter, Pagano's or Jackson's? Hue's seat is hotter, but while he's sitting on an oven at 400 degrees the owner is focusing on the fact that the entire house is made of fire.
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# ? Nov 2, 2017 19:16 |
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Yeah, as much as Hue has cocked up, it's conceivable(particularly given this embarrassing McCarron situation) that Haslam will blame his front office and absolve Hue. There is some logic to that, but it's not very sound once you look at how the Browns have performed on the football field. On the other hand, it was baffling that the Colts didn't fire Pagano. This has been true for two years now, and Luck being dead has exposed how little Grigson or Pagano has contributed to the team's past success.
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# ? Nov 2, 2017 19:17 |
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Reminder that Ryan Grigson now works for...The Browns!
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# ? Nov 2, 2017 19:22 |
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Maybe Haslam can bring in Millen as a consultant.
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# ? Nov 2, 2017 19:30 |
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Hue’s seat is the Chernobyl reactor and the trade attempt was the insertion of the control rods. Pagano’s seat already melted away underneath him.
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# ? Nov 2, 2017 19:56 |
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I don't think it matters who is more to blame right now, everyone on the Browns is fired after this season.
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# ? Nov 2, 2017 19:59 |
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King Hong Kong posted:Hue’s seat is the Chernobyl reactor and the trade attempt was the insertion of the control rods. The Browns organization is of course the Chernobyl facility here. Actually that might not be fair, Chernobyl worked for a while.
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# ? Nov 2, 2017 20:06 |
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Chernobyl also revitalized the local landscape!
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# ? Nov 2, 2017 20:08 |
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I wonder, if you combined the Colts and Browns organization would there be enough competent people to run one football team?
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# ? Nov 2, 2017 20:13 |
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Grittybeard posted:The Browns organization is of course the Chernobyl facility here.
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# ? Nov 2, 2017 20:15 |
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Grittybeard posted:The Browns organization is of course the Chernobyl facility here. Hey we were good till the 90's
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