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Duffers on Episode 7: Whether it works for people or not, it allows us to experiment a little bit, it's important for Ross and I to try stuff and not feel like we're doing the same thing over and over again. It's almost like doing a whole little other pilot episode in the middle of your season… Our test of the episode was we tried to pull it out of the show just to make sure that we needed it because I didn't want it in there as filler — even though some critics are accusing us of doing that. But Eleven's journey kind of fell apart, like the ending didn't work, without it. So I was like, whether this works or not, we need this building block in here or the whole show is going to collapse. It's not going to end well. So, spin-off show? Or a forced season-arching story line?
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pixelpusherbot posted:Duffers on Episode 7: Whether it works for people or not, it allows us to experiment a little bit, it's important for Ross and I to try stuff and not feel like we're doing the same thing over and over again. It's almost like doing a whole little other pilot episode in the middle of your season… I told my wife it felt like a bad pilot for a spin-off while we were watching it, but it's a really forced sub-plot right in the climax of action (literally placed after a cliffhanger that isn't resolved until episode 8) so both. They could have easily had Eleven come to the same conclusion after visiting Mama.
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Doctor Reynolds posted:I love Winona Ryder. I will never marry, but Lydia Deetz is forever my waifu.
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The only reason Eleven's story wouldn't make sense if you dropped episode 7 is that she'd show up looking a little different.
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Episode 7 was a lot of fun! Felt a bit silly to put all that in one episode admittedly, but I look forward to what they do there.
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Doctor Reynolds posted:I love Winona Ryder. I hate bitch rear end Will, which makes it hard to not hate Joyce when every one of her scenes is just her being hysterical over him.
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drunken officeparty posted:I hate bitch rear end Will, which makes it hard to not hate Joyce when every one of her scenes is just her being hysterical over him. will owns but even he didn't, not loving winona ryder is a cardinal sin
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drunken officeparty posted:I hate bitch rear end Will, which makes it hard to not hate Joyce when every one of her scenes is just her being hysterical over him. A problem this season was some of the dynamics are too samey: Joyce freaking out about her son and doing Close Encounter poo poo in her house, the parts where El's sad in the wilderness, Mike mopey and emo about Will and Eleven, Nancy and Jonathan off on a caper. Especially since about all of the new dynamics are good, like Hopper and Eleven, Babysitter Steve, etc.
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I thought the finale was the worst episode of the season.
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I didn't understand what exactly 11 was 'closing' in the big climax part. They go down on the elevator thing to this big glowing redyellow place, but earlier didn't the doctor take Officer Manly down the same elevator and it just went to the tunnel system? I thought the gate that had to be closed was the open barrier thing directly across from the scientist booth.
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drunken officeparty posted:I didn't understand what exactly 11 was 'closing' in the big climax part. They go down on the elevator thing to this big glowing redyellow place, but earlier didn't the doctor take Officer Manly down the same elevator and it just went to the tunnel system? I thought the gate that had to be closed was the open barrier thing directly across from the scientist booth. It's all the same gate. The Hawkins lab personnel could only see the part of the gate at the top. To avoid being burned out and to expand, the Mind Flayer (or whatever) extended the gate directly down through the floor - in "The Spy," about 13 minutes in, Paul Reiser's character gives his talk about how all living organisms develop defense mechanisms and here it did it by extending through the ground underneath the lab - it's implied that they tore up the floor and installed the elevator that they go down in "The Spy" when the lab personnel realized the gate extended further (it's why the hole at the top still has rubble around it when Owens takes Hopper down to see the gate/tunnels under the lab, it was freshly installed). Bruteman fucked around with this message at 13:06 on Nov 3, 2017 |
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drunken officeparty posted:I hate bitch rear end Will, which makes it hard to not hate Joyce when every one of her scenes is just her being hysterical over him.
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There's zero chance I'm reading this entire thread but what do people reckon will come of the demodog in the freezer? It has to be relevant given the time they dedicated to showing it being done. I think Dustin will try to get famous off it and someone will recognize it and then they'll reveal some whole other gate to the Upside Down that exists in like, Alabama, or whatever, and we'll go to a new locale to fight the baddies
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Yates posted:I thought the finale was the worst episode of the season. Did you want something dark and edgy with piles of dead main characters?
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Wamsutta posted:There's zero chance I'm reading this entire thread but what do people reckon will come of the demodog in the freezer? It has to be relevant given the time they dedicated to showing it being done. I think Dustin will try to get famous off it and someone will recognize it and then they'll reveal some whole other gate to the Upside Down that exists in like, Alabama, or whatever, and we'll go to a new locale to fight the baddies Nothing. It was one more comic scene for Steve and Dustin, and the ending is "one month later" after they did that, so I'd think they'd have said something about it.
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Wamsutta posted:There's zero chance I'm reading this entire thread but what do people reckon will come of the demodog in the freezer? It has to be relevant given the time they dedicated to showing it being done. I think Dustin will try to get famous off it and someone will recognize it and then they'll reveal some whole other gate to the Upside Down that exists in like, Alabama, or whatever, and we'll go to a new locale to fight the baddies Big ol' bbq. Demodog's good eatin.
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Wamsutta posted:There's zero chance I'm reading this entire thread but what do people reckon will come of the demodog in the freezer? It has to be relevant given the time they dedicated to showing it being done. I think Dustin will try to get famous off it and someone will recognize it and then they'll reveal some whole other gate to the Upside Down that exists in like, Alabama, or whatever, and we'll go to a new locale to fight the baddies It’s just laying groundwork for Dustin to be a famous wildlife biologist in Season 5 when the show does an homage to the second part of IT and the party returns to Hawkins as adults to fight the Upside Downizens one last time. Sigourney Weaver will play Eleven, who has been trapped in the other reality for decades.
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Woodchip posted:Big ol' bbq. Demodog's good eatin. S3 opens in Will's back yard, demodog being rotated on a spit over a camp fire while Stan Bush's 'The Touch' plays from a nearby boombox.
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You know, after all the talk about the Red Menace  in the first two seasons I wonder if they'll actually have the Soviets show up in some way in Season 3.
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Season 3 has the dramatic introduction of одиннадцать!
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Bulky Bartokomous posted:Did you want something dark and edgy with piles of dead main characters? No but it seemed to be building toward something more than what we got. That's just how I felt.
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TheGamerGuy23 posted:I was also hoping a different parent of the boys would step up and get poo poo done, but all of them still remain oblivious to all the poo poo going on around them in the end. Yeah, and Mike's mum was Samaritan's top assassin in person of interest, so we know she can get poo poo done.
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Episode 7 was fine you dorks
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Junkfist posted:A problem this season was some of the dynamics are too samey: Joyce freaking out about her son and doing Close Encounter poo poo in her house, the parts where El's sad in the wilderness, Mike mopey and emo about Will and Eleven, Nancy and Jonathan off on a caper. Yeah, the retreads go on and on. Will is still a victim, Steve is still a good-hearted jerk with an on-again/off-again relationship, Barb is still a corpse, etc.
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Wamsutta posted:There's zero chance I'm reading this entire thread but what do people reckon will come of the demodog in the freezer? It has to be relevant given the time they dedicated to showing it being done. I think Dustin will try to get famous off it and someone will recognize it and then they'll reveal some whole other gate to the Upside Down that exists in like, Alabama, or whatever, and we'll go to a new locale to fight the baddies it's a plot hole that will be filled up next season
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Everyone who hates episode 7 was it the concept or it just not being a Good Episode? Because I loved the concept, another angle of 80's cinema references but in the 80's Urban Gang Jungle where everyone has dumb mohawks kind of way. The episode itself though I just felt didnt go anywhere.
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This was mostly a copy->paste of S1. New characters didn't actually do anything except Max acting as a recipient of info dumps making sure the audience was up to speed and giving the other characters something to bounce off of. Episode 7 was completely terrible. The ending was unfulfilling, the imagery of the giant smoky what the gently caress never really pays off. How do you have El basically resolve the threat AGAIN in basically the exact same way. Ugh. Dustin is maybe the most dangerous idiot in the history of fiction. Show's carried by charismatic actors. If Steve dies, the show dies.
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massive spider posted:Everyone who hates episode 7 was it the concept or it just not being a Good Episode? IT LOOKED like it should have been interesting, but didn't remotely pay off. You can literally make people see anything, but you're too stupid to consider the implications and use of that and live like this? Why do you kill people with a GUN instead of making them see something terrible and torturing them with what they did? Think more like The Shadow.
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I also loled at 008 using her powers to put up a giant fake magneto wall instead of like I don’t know a vision of their van speeding in the other direction.
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massive spider posted:Everyone who hates episode 7 was it the concept or it just not being a Good Episode? I think a lot of the backlash is not just the episode itself (which was mediocre but not that offensive, and had a fun concept like you say) but the potential for more of the same going forward.
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I think they need to branch out, how many times can that dumbass town be almost destroyed before it becomes comical?
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I don't really want a movie-science explanation of how the upside down is quarks escaping gravity via quantum fields or whatever the gently caress, but I do want to know who or what if anything is the big bad guy. S1 there was only the demogorgon, but now apparently that was just like one dude that lives there? Is the shadow thing the ultimate power? Is it going to get killed then they find a super double shadow thing was really the boss?
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drunken officeparty posted:Is it going to get killed then they find a super double shadow thing was really the boss?
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Humans were the true monsters the whole time.
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nooneofconsequence posted:Humans were the true monsters the whole time. TheLoneStar fucked around with this message at 19:30 on Nov 3, 2017 |
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massive spider posted:Everyone who hates episode 7 was it the concept or it just not being a Good Episode? Kind of both? I mean first off I thought it was just pretty badly done (I've mentioned the dialogue already) so I'll leave that aside. I was all about Eleven meeting Eight and seeing what kind of dynamic they might have and learning more about the experiments and potentially others who were in there in theory. I was not excited about Eight's silly posse even if only about half of them were bad characters. I absolutely disliked the concept of them comparing powers and showing off powers and training powers and talking about how their powers made them special and so on and so forth. You might say this was inevitable both due to what would naturally come up in conversation and simply the popularity of superhero stuff these days, and so in that way the concept also disagreed with me. You can't make superhero stuff interesting to me no matter how well executed it is. To me Eleven is always more fun to watch when there's nothing supernatural involved in the scene already, whether with the boys or Hopper or what-have-you.
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Insurrectionist posted:superhero stuff It's this. I hate the idea of this poo poo in the show. Eleven's not a superhero she's a sympathetic alien lab-monster. Straight White Shark posted:Barb is still a corpse 
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In the seventh and final season theyll enter the 90s, and it'll turn into a 90s anime where El blows up the whole drat world
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Insurrectionist posted:Kind of both? I mean first off I thought it was just pretty badly done (I've mentioned the dialogue already) so I'll leave that aside. Yeaaaah it kind of felt like Heroes Season 2
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