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B&V has hit peak retro in Austin v Rock full swing, the sheer joy of Austin and Rock and McMahon is not changed in retrospect - they were just that loving good. Everything around them sucks, which is a theme in that this will never happen again and thats ok but stop trying to make this happen again. Between this and the NWA shows its the best shows. Lid fucked around with this message at 20:39 on Nov 15, 2017 |
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Lid posted:B&V has hit peak retro in Austin v Rock full swing, the sheer joy of Austin and Rock and McMahon is not changed in retrospect - they were just that loving good. Everything around them sucks, which is a theme in that this will never happen again and thats ok but stop trying to make this happen again. Bryan doing THE MATH on why there'll never be a boom period like that again was great too. Best part was his sheer disbelief as he states,"Nitro was the worst it has ever been.... and it's only going to get worse. Raw was the best it has ever been.... and it's only going to get better "
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I dunno, they're in for some rough times when they get to 99 and Raw doubles down on Russo-ism
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Benne posted:I dunno, they're in for some rough times when they get to 99 and Raw doubles down on Russo-ism Yes but it also means things like Crash Holly, Y2J and KURT ANGLE
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# ? Nov 16, 2017 01:00 |
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How Kurt didn't win the WON rookie of the year award in 1999 (Blitzkrieg did) is lifes biggest mystery. Edit: just realised in the entire history of the rookie awards only two WWE wrestlers have ever been rookies of the year - Chad Gable and Tom Zenk in 1984 and Zenk tied for that award with some no name guy called Keiichi Yamada who no one has heard that name of since 1984. (Brock should've won over Bob Sapp) Lid fucked around with this message at 01:15 on Nov 16, 2017 |
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Jerusalem posted:Bryan doing THE MATH on why there'll never be a boom period like that again was great too. Lid posted:How Kurt didn't win the WON rookie of the year award in 1999 (Blitzkrieg did) is lifes biggest mystery.
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Lid posted:How Kurt didn't win the WON rookie of the year award in 1999 (Blitzkrieg did) is lifes biggest mystery. Kurt Angle winning that year would have been completely idiotic.
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# ? Nov 16, 2017 01:51 |
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because blitzkrieg was bad rear end
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Lid posted:(Brock should've won over Bob Sapp) You generally have to be a rookie to win rookie of the year.
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Didnt stop Matt Riddle
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oatgan posted:blitzkrieg was bad rear end
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# ? Nov 16, 2017 02:13 |
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Tom Zenk loving sucked though
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Feels Villeneuve posted:Tom Zenk loving sucked though Uh, no he was really good.
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# ? Nov 16, 2017 03:37 |
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I'm watching 1990/91 WCW and I hate him.
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# ? Nov 16, 2017 04:19 |
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He's real bad and even worse when standing next to the extremely good Rick Martel.
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# ? Nov 16, 2017 04:24 |
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He was a good worker and a beloved (and probably problematic in retrospect) WOL guest.
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# ? Nov 16, 2017 04:29 |
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Konnan was a beloved WOR guest so I think the standards here are somewhat low
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Feels Villeneuve posted:Konnan was a beloved WOR guest so I think the standards here are somewhat low Konnan asked Bryan Alvarez questions so that was cool. Tom Zenk was legitimately an eyada era phenom, people loved him, thought his appearances were the funniest thing and demanded more of him. Standards for wrestling humor are obviously low but drat was that dude popular in the MNW era IWC.
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Feels Villeneuve posted:Tom Zenk loving sucked though How do we get the Z-Man unsilenced, he gave the best interviews on the old eyada Meltzer shows
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# ? Nov 16, 2017 05:13 |
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I am steadfast in my Anti-Zeeman opinions here.
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# ? Nov 16, 2017 05:13 |
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I remember his website that was full of dirt about other wrestlers. It was so weird to see somebody who played a super cleancut babyface being a total smug bastard irl. and since that time I really wonder if Tom Zenk would have been a successful heel.
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# ? Nov 16, 2017 06:00 |
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dissing Tom Zenk should be a bannable offence.
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# ? Nov 16, 2017 16:39 |
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honestly I thought "Greg 'The Hammer' Valentine was loving great" would be a more controversial opinion for me to hold than "Tom 'The Z Man' Zenk sucked rear end"
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Feels Villeneuve posted:honestly I thought "Greg 'The Hammer' Valentine was loving great" would be a more controversial opinion for me to hold than "Tom 'The Z Man' Zenk sucked rear end" Greg was good until he was bad. Also I forgot to not ask Dave if he has "memories" of something but specifics about business, I still know almost nothing about CCW.
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Tom Zenk was very good on family feud RIP ray combs edit: also greg was Really Good in the 70s and didn't get awful until like 86 when he got WWF lazy Platypus Farm fucked around with this message at 19:40 on Nov 16, 2017 |
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Z-Man was even more bitter and full of poo poo than the Honky Tonk Man, and I miss the guy just for that.
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# ? Nov 16, 2017 20:34 |
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I liked Tom Zenk getting absolutely destroyed by Vader and his feud with Brian Pillman. Zenk's glass ceiling was always going to be perennial WCW Saturday Night TV Title contender, face they could throw into a midcard 6-man tag match, and named opponent for a higher on the card heel to defeat. Wrestling needs those guys and while I preferred Brad Armstrong in that role in WCW I thought Zenk was okay.
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# ? Nov 16, 2017 21:18 |
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Brad Armstrong was amazing.
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Platypus Farm posted:Tom Zenk was very good on family feud RIP ray combs Greg/Tito is an All Time WWF feud based on match quality also the 1990 match at the Royal Rumble with Ronnie Garvin kicks rear end
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# ? Nov 16, 2017 22:22 |
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I remember people being into Garvin vs. Flair until Garvin actually won the title and then they were like "WTF, he is not worthy of beating the Nature Boy." Probably because Ric was usually a tweener, no matter how big of a dick he was.
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It is well documented that I am pro-Valentine, but the highlight of his career was definitely Rhythm & Blues.
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# ? Nov 16, 2017 23:47 |
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Finally caught up on this week's Retro Raw. I never saw the Road Warrior Hawk angle before and holy poo poo it's even worse than I heard
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# ? Nov 17, 2017 00:19 |
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Z Man ruled. I wish someone kept an archive of those bitter rants he and Honky would post on their sites. Maybe the Wayback Machine has them. Also love the pic of Zenk in Johnny Ace's lap
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Karmine posted:It is well documented that I am pro-Valentine, but the highlight of his career was definitely Rhythm & Blues. Valentine with that black hair is legitimately stomach-turning.
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flashy_mcflash posted:Valentine with that black hair is legitimately stomach-turning. Don't forget the sneering at the camera like elvis
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# ? Nov 17, 2017 02:46 |
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Jesus loving tap dancing christ, sempervive is insufferable.
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https://twitter.com/iamjohnpollock/status/931344071892725761
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Gold Sexy Body posted:Jesus loving tap dancing christ, sempervive is insufferable. i honestly don't know how bryan puts up with him
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Raskolnikov38 posted:i honestly don't know how bryan puts up with him You know what, I can't believe that look listen, not having a roof on like look listen at the end of the day it is stupid to not look have a roof ion the cage and yeah you can do it without a roof but yeah you know what it is stupid and yeah i can't believe they're not putting a roof on the cage and putting it back at war games and it is silly but it's not even worth talking about at the end of the day and you know what it's not a big deal and yeah it is stupid but you know what who cares it is what it is can we just move on
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# ? Nov 17, 2017 04:18 |
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Semp was at least semi-tolerable when he didn't know how annoying he was. Once he decided to make that his gimmick WOL became actively unlistenable.
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