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Nov 22, 2017 10:36
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The Austin/Taker angle on this week's retro Raw is breathtakingly stupid
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Nov 23, 2017 00:09
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ChuckDeNomolos posted:i am not joking when i say i want the nobodies to have on dave meltzer in the middle of their couch. i want dave meltzer shouting, "sasha banks weave watch" with jazz hands I didn't know I wanted this until you posted, and now it's all I've ever wanted.
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Nov 23, 2017 04:20
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Benne posted:The Austin/Taker angle on this week's retro Raw is breathtakingly stupid "Why did Paul Bearer allow them to film this? This was a crime." "Oh it was a tremendous crime!"
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Nov 23, 2017 04:32
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Personally I'm really excited for more bad Undertaker segments, and there are a lot of them coming!
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Nov 23, 2017 04:37
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Turns out comparing Bray Wyatt to the Undertaker is actually good
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Nov 23, 2017 06:37
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It's kinda of amazing how many lows The Undertaker gimmick was able to survive. Out of any top level guy the gimmick had way more of it's share than anybody else.
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Nov 23, 2017 08:19
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SatoshiMiwa posted:It's kinda of amazing how many lows The Undertaker gimmick was able to survive. Out of any top level guy the gimmick had way more of it's share than anybody else. if you're some dipshit midwest kid, Undertaker was the scariest thing on saturday morning television. The charles manson-esque antics of Undertaker during the early part of the attitude era were pretty much keeping with the character. Also it helps the Taker lived the gimmick in a way that didn't get him arrested or shitfaced in rehab.
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Nov 23, 2017 08:46
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Dave was very briefly on the 30 For 30 Podcast about UFC 1. Nothing new but they interviewed Shamrock, Gracie and other fighters in addition to Art Davie.
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Nov 23, 2017 09:15
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UltimoDragonQuest posted:Dave was very briefly on the 30 For 30 Podcast about UFC 1. Nothing new but they interviewed Shamrock, Gracie and other fighters in addition to Art Davie. The pod dave did with uhhh Sherdog? About old UFCs was really really great a few years ago.
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Nov 23, 2017 12:11
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coconono posted:if you're some dipshit midwest kid, Undertaker was the scariest thing on saturday morning television. The charles manson-esque antics of Undertaker during the early part of the attitude era were pretty much keeping with the character. Also it helps the Taker lived the gimmick in a way that didn't get him arrested or shitfaced in rehab. I was (and in many ways remain) a dipshit New Englander but I was really never scared of the Undertaker. Maybe it was because he turned babyface not long after I started watching, I dunno. On the other hand, I used to get so scared I'd leave the room when Papa Shango came out. He made black goo come out of people! Seven year old me didn't need that poo poo!
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Nov 23, 2017 12:48
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https://twitter.com/bryanalvarez/status/933623769230225408
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Nov 23, 2017 12:54
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SatoshiMiwa posted:It's kinda of amazing how many lows The Undertaker gimmick was able to survive. Out of any top level guy the gimmick had way more of it's share than anybody else. It's kind of the magic of wrestling. You can survive pretty much anything if you are: 1)fantastic as a performer; 2)and win all the time; 3) still place limits on what you will not do. Like Bray and Kane are both jokes because they do stupid poo poo, but also lose all the time and allow their characters to do dumb poo poo. Kane has generally done stupid rear end poo poo Undertaker would never do (The Santino trombone dance, corporate slacks Kane). Bray dressed in drag, won via hologram, the house of horrors. But Undertaker could always fall back on loving murdering dudes, and not been chumped out on Vince's whim. I'm honestly kind of shocked we haven't had Bray shilling fast food.
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Nov 23, 2017 14:46
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Wazzu posted:It's kind of the magic of wrestling. You can survive pretty much anything if you are: 1)fantastic as a performer; 2)and win all the time; 3) still place limits on what you will not do. Bikertaker.
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Nov 23, 2017 14:54
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exploded mummy posted:Bikertaker. Bikertaker was good, though. Freshened up his character a lot.
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Nov 23, 2017 15:04
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gently caress Bikertaker ! ! !
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Nov 23, 2017 18:47
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you've done it now you've gone and made a big mistake
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Nov 23, 2017 18:49
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Randaconda posted:Bikertaker was good, though. Freshened up his character a lot. as someone who loves the biker taker/flair feud, i can't argue with this. It's super dated, and people have seen the rise and fall out of suburban biker worship, but poo poo like Monster Garage and Chopper Build Challenge were in the American mainstream culture. I also think Rollin' is the reason they scoff at Biker taker in hindsight, but I think that's people hiding from their teenage copy of Hot Dogs and Chocalate Starfish.
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Nov 23, 2017 19:19
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ChuckDeNomolos posted:as someone who loves the biker taker/flair feud, i can't argue with this. It's super dated, and people have seen the rise and fall out of suburban biker worship, but poo poo like Monster Garage and Chopper Build Challenge were in the American mainstream culture. I also think Rollin' is the reason they scoff at Biker taker in hindsight, but I think that's people hiding from their teenage copy of Hot Dogs and Chocalate Starfish. Those things were all dumb and embarrassing back then, too. I'm trying to come up with an example of current garbage that's "American mainstream" that's just as terrible. Maybe the way they keep integrating Twitter feuds onto the show?
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Nov 23, 2017 19:24
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Hashtag Under... Siege - a fifty year old man says into a microphone with no hint of irony
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Nov 23, 2017 20:09
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It's really strange how Undertaker got the rep as an all-time worker considering how much loving garbage there is in his career
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Nov 23, 2017 20:10
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He got real good at having great matches when he didn't have to work more than a half dozen times a year. And then he broke down so even that wasn't really enough.
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Nov 23, 2017 20:12
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Feels Villeneuve posted:It's really strange how Undertaker got the rep as an all-time worker considering how much loving garbage there is in his career Garbage tends to increase when you wait to retire at least 4 years after everyone realizes you're done Hell, it can't be ruled out that he'll come back just because he thinks he's capable of having a better last match than that Reigns Mania one, so make it at least 5 years
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Nov 23, 2017 20:27
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Chris James 2 posted:Garbage tends to increase when you wait to retire at least 4 years after everyone realizes you're done I'm not talking about the end of his career, I'm talking about like, huge chunks of what should have been his "prime" being total garbage in-ring.
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Nov 23, 2017 20:29
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Chris James 2 posted:Hell, it can't be ruled out that he'll come back just because he thinks he's capable of having a better last match than that Reigns Mania one, so make it at least 5 years tbf it would be hard not to
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Nov 23, 2017 20:29
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Chris James 2 posted:Garbage tends to increase when you wait to retire at least 4 years after everyone realizes you're done Taker's worst, ringwork-wise, in the 10s was far better than about 90% of what he did in the 90s and 00s.
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Nov 23, 2017 20:31
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rare Magic card l00k posted:Taker's worst, ringwork-wise, in the 10s was far better than about 90% of what he did in the 90s and 00s. The SummerSlam and HIAC matches against Lesnar are easily in his career top-10.
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Nov 23, 2017 20:32
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That said, I'd also rather watch a Taker 90s/00s feud and matches than the vast majority of stuff that happened in that period. I love that silly devil zombie wizard biker.
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Nov 23, 2017 20:36
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BikerTaker/HHH was the only great Taker/HHH match
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Nov 23, 2017 20:40
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New WOR can't come soon enough, I've resorted to listening to the Sempervive only WOLs.
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Nov 23, 2017 20:42
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I enjoyed their Shotgun Saturday Night match where Taker tombstoned him at the top of the escalator and HHH rode it down to hell.
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Nov 23, 2017 20:42
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Per his podcast, Steve Austin doesn’t like War Games ‘92. Worst news all week.
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Nov 23, 2017 20:46
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Taker was actually one of HHH's better opponents, HHH was always great at milking near-falls which you really need in a Taker match.
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Nov 23, 2017 21:13
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Feels Villeneuve posted:Taker was actually one of HHH's better opponents, HHH was always great at milking near-falls which you really need in a Taker match. He got people to legit believe that he beat Taker with a tombstone at Wrestlemania of all places; on paper that spot never should have worked.
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Nov 23, 2017 22:25
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ChuckDeNomolos posted:as someone who loves the biker taker/flair feud, i can't argue with this. It's super dated, and people have seen the rise and fall out of suburban biker worship, but poo poo like Monster Garage and Chopper Build Challenge were in the American mainstream culture. I also think Rollin' is the reason they scoff at Biker taker in hindsight, but I think that's people hiding from their teenage copy of Hot Dogs and Chocalate Starfish. This stuff was all big in the culture but given the immense amount of money they spent on the character it flopped as Undertaker was nowhere near the draw during that period as he was before or after.
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Nov 23, 2017 22:37
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MassRafTer posted:This stuff was all big in the culture but given the immense amount of money they spent on the character it flopped as Undertaker was nowhere near the draw during that period as he was before or after. Ah, that clears it up.
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Nov 23, 2017 22:54
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ChuckDeNomolos posted:Ah, that clears it up. At the same time it would have been almost impossible for him to be as hot as he was against Austin. Realistically it wasn't really possible for him to be the respected elder statesman either so it may not be fair to judge.
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Nov 23, 2017 23:01
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You can split Bikertaker into two: his face debut run which was hot garbage, and his heel run where he was entertaining at least.
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Nov 24, 2017 02:22
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It seems weird but also fitting that Taker arguably has the best and the worst Mania matches of all time
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Nov 24, 2017 03:55
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SatoshiMiwa posted:It seems weird but also fitting that Taker arguably has the best and the worst Mania matches of all time Also Bret Hart.
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Nov 24, 2017 04:06
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