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My idea, force every online app store to use a forced "sort by rating" so only highly rated worthwile poo poo shows up so the stores don't try to hide behind "best rated" obscured bullshit that's only poo poo that makes them money
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# ? Dec 7, 2017 01:32 |
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You can't get them to stop, and even if you could your idea is stupid and would never work. You're asking a capitalist marketplace to willingly limit what are essentially skinner boxes and slot machines which make them a buttfucking ton of easy money for fairly little effort. What means of enforcement could possibly exist to limit the draw of such lucrative business?
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# ? Dec 7, 2017 01:35 |
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You could not buy them.
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# ? Dec 7, 2017 01:36 |
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License a kids friendly IP like the Smurfs and create a microtransaction model so predatory that it attracts attention. Oh wait : 2011. And nothing has changed since then. Guess we basically have to beg the government to step in and hope they don't gently caress up video games as a whole too much.
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# ? Dec 7, 2017 01:40 |
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"we" don't do anything, OP.
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# ? Dec 7, 2017 01:40 |
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All game objectives measured in free hours played.
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# ? Dec 7, 2017 01:41 |
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Who cares let them hunt their whales. I'm not going to be caught by them
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# ? Dec 7, 2017 01:42 |
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Reduce the population of earth by 5.5 billion people and dedicate the bulk of functional labor towards the largest space program in human history, so that the developed world has something to strive for in their lives beyond idle timewasting into an early grave.
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# ? Dec 7, 2017 01:43 |
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A cigarette-style sales tax placed on all "game currency" transactions would probably kill them real fast, or at the very least reduce them to larger "package" transactions.
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# ? Dec 7, 2017 01:44 |
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same thing i do with casinos - just don't they're fishing for people who will throw thousands at it, i'm not that person, so i just don't throw thousands at it. you can do the same. hth.
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# ? Dec 7, 2017 01:46 |
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Lotta people itt are really proud of not being small children
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# ? Dec 7, 2017 01:50 |
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Don't play them, don't give them money, and most importantly...
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# ? Dec 7, 2017 01:54 |
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Magius1337est posted:My idea, force every online app store to use a forced "sort by rating" so only highly rated worthwile poo poo shows up so the stores don't try to hide behind "best rated" obscured bullshit that's only poo poo that makes them money non apple app stores are super garbage and are hosed by bots and malware who game results already. not that the App Store is “good” and completely free of this, just the alternatives like Microsoft (the absolute worst) and google are so filled with poo poo it’s offensive, they would be completely ineffective to do anything. maybe just support developers who make good poo poo and pay no mind to games that make you mad op?
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# ? Dec 7, 2017 01:54 |
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Go to the app store and tell people about the joys of posting
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# ? Dec 7, 2017 01:58 |
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ChickenHeart posted:A cigarette-style sales tax placed on all "game currency" transactions would probably kill them real fast, or at the very least reduce them to larger "package" transactions. Yes, finally.
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# ? Dec 7, 2017 02:00 |
lowtax should make the op pay to post more threads
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# ? Dec 7, 2017 02:03 |
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Mount a brutal campaign filled with murder and violence against the developers and their families until they stop?
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# ? Dec 7, 2017 02:14 |
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Kill all the 62 year old women that have spent $400 on candy crush.
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# ? Dec 7, 2017 02:16 |
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We get rid of "currency" conversions and force all purchases to be in exact dollar amounts. No more paying $10 for 10000 points when you only really need 8000
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# ? Dec 7, 2017 02:18 |
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how about instead of sitting in front of the idiot box with your game paddle, you go to the public library and learn something.
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# ? Dec 7, 2017 02:21 |
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I don't think you can get rid of scams without getting rid of the people that fall for them. It's like asking how to get rid of alternative medicine or pyramid schemes.
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# ? Dec 7, 2017 02:22 |
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ChickenHeart posted:A cigarette-style sales tax placed on all "game currency" transactions would probably kill them real fast, or at the very least reduce them to larger "package" transactions. This is legit. Sin tax on microtransactions. Also require them to show lootbox odds. LOVE LOVE SKELETON posted:how about instead of sitting in front of the idiot box with your game paddle, you go to the public library and learn something. Library next to me has lots of games, never checked them out though.
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# ? Dec 7, 2017 02:23 |
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Here's the problem though - No tax: I spend $x to make a game with little upkeep required and make millions Tax: I spend $x to make a game with little upkeep required and make millions, just not as much If it is profitable to do, people will do it. And the barrier for entry here is very small, it's basically can you make a flash game.
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# ? Dec 7, 2017 02:27 |
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the best thing to learn in life is 'you cant control the behaviorof others, only how you react to it'
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# ? Dec 7, 2017 02:28 |
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COMRADES posted:Here's the problem though - You know taxes can be set like, arbitrarily high, right
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# ? Dec 7, 2017 02:40 |
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Arrhythmia posted:You know taxes can be set like, arbitrarily high, right Well just outlaw the practice you're trying to tax away then?
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COMRADES posted:Here's the problem though - it gets rid of those "spend $5 to get 5 more moves" games
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# ? Dec 7, 2017 02:55 |
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Don't buy them. Don't buy any triple A game loot boxes neither.
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# ? Dec 7, 2017 02:55 |
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Kill all children who play these games and they won’t make any more.
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Magius1337est posted:it gets rid of those "spend $5 to get 5 more moves" games It doesn't though - like say right now there is 0 tax. You spend $5, I get $5. If you do a 90% tax, I'm still getting $0.50 so why not? The name of the game is volume anyway.
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# ? Dec 7, 2017 02:58 |
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Freeze the bank accounts of nerds
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# ? Dec 7, 2017 02:59 |
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Just gotta go back to playing quality board games like Monopoly.
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COMRADES posted:It doesn't though - like say right now there is 0 tax. You spend $5, I get $5. You underestimate how damaging a high tax on certain products can be. A tax would effectively push out a significant chunk of freemium game's target audience - minors with no income. EDIT: The posters talking about removing "currencies" outright and forcing purchases to be shown in USD, alongside displaying odds, also make a great argument. ChickenHeart fucked around with this message at 03:16 on Dec 7, 2017 |
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The Dennis System posted:Don't buy them. Don't buy any triple A game loot boxes neither. That's the beauty of this business model - the games are just fun enough that 1 rich/fiscally irresponsible retard is worth 20 to 100 level headed consumers.
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# ? Dec 7, 2017 03:12 |
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Im sure trump and the republicans are totally willing to tax these companies on your behalf for the sin of making too much profit. To be fair though thats far more realistic than gamers weening themselves off the addiction.
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# ? Dec 7, 2017 03:15 |
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idea : buying random lootboxes puts you on a list of people, of which a certain number (that we can raise or lower depending on the results intended) are executed on live TV every year. Let's see how much you enjoy playing your luck then... that or just making any game with gambling in it be restricted to adults, with an extra sin tax on gambling added for good measure.
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# ? Dec 7, 2017 03:16 |
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You can't OP. Even my freaking computer applications are becoming pay to play.
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# ? Dec 7, 2017 03:16 |
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ChickenHeart posted:You underestimate how damaging a high tax on certain products can be. A tax would effectively push out a significant chunk of freemium game's target audience - minors with no income. You assume it would result in a price increase instead of companies just cutting their profit margins to still capture that audience. I mean, you're right but the thing about this product is that you don't need to produce it in a factory and then ship it somewhere you just put it on a server and fix some bugs and let it ride. Farmville cost like, $300k to make. As long as it remains profitable to do something people will do it, even at razor margins, and the margins on these things can get pretty drat razor before you're not able to operate anymore. I mean whatever tax it I'm just saying if the point is to eliminate the behavior just do that instead of trying a tax end run around it idk. COMRADES fucked around with this message at 03:24 on Dec 7, 2017 |
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lovely Wizard posted:License a kids friendly IP like the Smurfs and create a microtransaction model so predatory that it attracts attention. $1,400 is nothing compared to what some goons admitted to spending on the Marvel Heroes F2P game that recently shut down.
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# ? Dec 7, 2017 03:18 |
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COMRADES posted:You assume it would result in a price increase instead of companies just cutting their profit margins to still capture that audience. And there is nothing incorrect about your statement; nonetheless, slashing the profit margins that companies make from Freemium games will make it significantly less attractive for those companies to continue developing them, and your shittier, store-spamming applications may find the loss in profit too much altogether (actual profit made vs. maintaining a living application and development team costs, reduced treasury for future content, etc.) It's no silver bullet, but it would put them in a world of hurt. EDIT: If we're going by "eliminate the disease," that would require looking at the human problem of gambling addiction, which honestly I'm not very well educated on. ChickenHeart fucked around with this message at 03:26 on Dec 7, 2017 |
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