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Other than the money, how do you maintain any dignity after going 1-15, potentially going 0-16, and then having a good chance of becoming the coach with the worst win percentage (with more than 50 games coached) in the history of the NFL? If he doesn’t get a win between now and the end of the third game of the 2018 season, the record is his.
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What the Browns need is someone like John McKay, who can lose almost every game and provide hilarious quotes like "Those of you who need a shower, take one" and "Based on today, none of our guys is going to go to the Hall of Fame... but then again, neither am I" while doing it
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got any sevens posted:They were poo poo before he bought them too Because I had free time: Haslam got the Browns in 2012. The worst record for the Cleveland Browns between coming back and the 2011 season was the year they came back, where they went 2-14 As of December 13, they will have not gotten 2 wins in 2 full calendar years (a win Dec 13, 2015 against the 49ers, and a win last Xmas Eve against the Chargers) Were they poo poo before? Yes. Are they shittier since? Yes.
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https://twitter.com/mortreport/status/938953239994748929 Announced in the middle of the TNF game. They news-dumped their own GM hire.
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Benne posted:https://twitter.com/mortreport/status/938953239994748929 Well....they could have done worse I think?  If he has to keep Hue as has been reported then uh, have fun
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GobiasIndustries posted:Well....they could have done worse I think? A great move by the Browns for once.
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Dec 8, 2017 03:24
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Could have hired Ken Dorsey for a lot less SMH
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Does the Rooney rule somehow not apply if the guy you fired was black?
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Dec 8, 2017 03:33
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Adun posted:Does the Rooney rule somehow not apply if the guy you fired was black? https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/938954781376335872
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Benne posted:https://twitter.com/mortreport/status/938953239994748929 Hue is going to coach forever lol. Dorsey lost to Andy Reid.
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Chris James 2 posted:He's sticking with Hue Hue "you lost a struggle with fat Andy. I own you"
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Lmao who did they possibly interview? Sashi Brown?
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Adun posted:Lmao who did they possibly interview? Sashi Brown? The exit interview, obviously.
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Guy who lost a power struggle to Andy Reid inherits a notorious politicker as his head coach. I'm sure this will end well.
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Adun posted:Lmao who did they possibly interview? Sashi Brown? The hillbilly has been interviewing potential GMs for weeks. Supposedly dating back to Sushi realizing what a loving stupid idea trading two high picks to the loving Bengals for AJ was despite Hue wanting him so badly and not properly closing out the trade. Sushi lost his job for overruling his idiot inbred crook owner and the backstabbing bullshit artist coach he loves. Browns. Also i really think the blame for 1 and 27 is on Hue by a mile, they have drafted a lot of contributors already under Sushi. Hue is such a terrible gameday coach and OC its unreal. He hasnt developed poo poo on offense and until today has refused to get an OC so he can stop being so terribly and obviously overwhelmed. E: Yeah Sushi passed up Wentz and then Watson directly trading out of the spots they were taken but would either of them have looked as good on the Browns with the many issues they have?
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Adun posted:Lmao who did they possibly interview? Sashi Brown? They've been doing a search for 5-6 weeks apparently The confidence they have in Hue knowing the time wouldn't be enough to change their mind
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LiquidFriend posted:They will suck rear end regardless, so Hue can be the fall guy. Sure he can be the fall guy but they're almost 100% drafting a new QB so why gently caress around with a season that everyone know is gonna suck? Going into a season with a coach who's wearing a 'lame duck' sign around his neck doesn't seem productive for anyone.
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Hue signed Gregg Williams to be his DC. So the lovely defense is on him, too.
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Moneyball will continue. https://twitter.com/NateUlrichABJ/status/938959925321109505
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As loathesome of a person as Gregg Williams is, I actually don't think the Browns' defense is that bad. There's definitely scheme issues (like why the gently caress is Peppers playing single-high safety when he's mainly suited for in the box work) and their LBs suck, but their d-line is decent on the whole - Garrett is gonna be an excellent player as soon as next year, Shelton is a solid run defender and Ogbah is a decent pass rusher. They went up against a Chargers offense that's been hot the last couple of weeks and basically held them to one TD drive and a bunch of FG attempts when they got into the red zone. They're very raw and inexperienced (and in retrospect letting Tayshaun Gipson leave for the Jags was an egregious blunder even for this organization), but there's something decent on that side of the ball. The offense? Yeah it's a hot mess. Kizer has a gun, some mobility and basically nothing else going for him, so all that poo poo's on Hue.
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Adun posted:Lmao who did they possibly interview? Sashi Brown? mike singletary. no really
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GobiasIndustries posted:Sure he can be the fall guy but they're almost 100% drafting a new QB so why gently caress around with a season that everyone know is gonna suck? Going into a season with a coach who's wearing a 'lame duck' sign around his neck doesn't seem productive for anyone.
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Blitz7x posted:Remember that time Mike Singletary pulled out his dick and started yelling at players that he was a man I don't want mike singletarys dick in my search history but im pretty sure he actually just mooned the team saying that's what they're playing like.
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the_american_dream posted:I don't want mike singletarys dick in my search history but im pretty sure he actually just mooned the team saying that's what they're playing like. IIRC he only pulled down his pants and kept the underwear on, at worst ending any debate about whether he's a boxers or briefs guy. Still a weird and funny story, but it's not like he was waving his dick around in the locker room.
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Welp we're due for an update now WEEK 14 We finally got our first firing of the season as the Giants pulled the plug on McAdoo. Don't be surprised if the dominoes fall quickly now -- nobody wants to be "the first" to make a move, but now that the cat's out of the bag, teams that made up their mind probably won't wait until Black Monday to start their coaching search. Buckle up -- the coaching carousel has officially started turning. ZERO DANGER Bill Belichick, New England Patriots Todd Bowles, New York Jets Mike Tomlin, Pittsburgh Steelers John Harbaugh, Baltimore Ravens Mike Mularkey, Tennessee Titans Bill O'Brien, Houston Texans Andy Reid, Kansas City Chiefs Jack Del Rio, Oakland Raiders Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles Jason Garrett, Dallas Cowboys Jay Gruden, Washington Mike Zimmer, Minnesota Vikings Mike McCarthy, Green Bay Packers Sean Payton, New Orleans Saints Ron Rivera, Carolina Panthers Dan Quinn, Atlanta Falcons Pete Carroll, Seattle Seahawks Bruce Arians, Arizona Cardinals Bowles has certainly earned respect points this year, flipping the Jets' narrative from tanking losers to scrappy overachievers playing spoiler and fighting for their coach. In other words, nobody should feel safe playing them down the stretch. I have yet to be impressed with BOB or Gruden, but they can play injury cards right now. The AFC West is a total clusterfuck, to the point that Del Rio's underwhelming Raiders are still in the hunt. Aaron Rodgers will come back and save Fat Mike's sorry rear end, as per tradition. FIRST-YEAR GRACE PERIOD Sean McDermott, Buffalo Bills Doug Marrone, Jacksonville Jaguars Anthony Lynn, Los Angeles Chargers Sean McVay, Los Angeles Rams Kyle Shanahan, San Francisco 49ers McDermott is back here after getting his senses back, and if Tyrod misses time with the knee injury, he at least has a convenient excuse for going to Peterman. MILD Adam Gase, Miami Dolphins: I got nothing left to say about the Dolphins at this point. The white noise of mediocre, uninspiring teams. Will be interesting to see who Gase blames next when he has a healthy Tannehill next year. Hue Jackson, Cleveland Browns: The Browns fired their GM and hired a new one in less than 12 hours, with the stipulation that he keeps Hue for now. I don't know what sweet nothings Hue whispered into Jimmy Haslam's ear, but going 1-27 and still having job security is a hell of a political win. Marvin Lewis, Cincinnati Bengals: Cincy kinda sorta crawled back in the playoff picture after an 0-3 start, but they're still out of it after a sloppy loss to the Steelers, and Lewis' future is open to speculation once again. Jim Caldwell, Detroit Lions: Man, how many mediocre-rear end coaches do I have to write about in the Mild space? The Lions are 6-6, dropped plenty of winnable games, and will all be all but eliminated with one more loss. Caldwell is the day-old opened beer you know is skunked, but keep sipping in the faded hopes of a slight buzz. Can we just move on already? MODERATE Vance Joseph, Denver Broncos: The more I hear about the Broncos, the more I'm convinced that Joseph is a one-and-done. Elway keeps puffing his chest about "evaluation," and I'm ever more suspicious that firing OC Mike McCoy wasn't Joseph's call. With no QB, and plenty of big egos on both the roster and front office, this has the potential to get really ugly. Dirk Koetter, Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Is it already time to go back to the drawing board? The Bucs entered the year as trendy contenders, but find themselves out of the playoff race already. Jameis Winston has plateaued instead of taking a leap forward, the defense fell apart, and it's yet another lost season. I'm really not sure where they go from here. SPICY HOT Chuck Pagano, Indianapolis Colts: You're still here? John Fox, Chicago Bears: I can't remember the last time I saw an aging coach so clearly checked out on what he knows is his final HC gig, and just ready for it to end. Would it surprise anyone if Fox already has tickets booked for the Bahamas on Black Monday?  Ben McAdoo, New York Giants: So Ben broke Eli's starting games streak for no good reason, got fired, and Eli gets his job back. Good poo poo, Giants. Really living up to your "classy" self-image. I've seen some noise about the Giants going after Josh McDaniels or Jim Harbaugh or some other flashy hire, but I don't see it. They already went off-brand by promoting an unproven McAdoo, and after he embarrassed them, they're going the opposite direction into full risk-averse. Get ready for Mike Smith and all sorts of PR puff about him "knowing The Giants Way." Don't say I didn't warn you. Benne fucked around with this message at 19:30 on Dec 8, 2017 |
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Good post. Almost twice as good as expected.
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Post so nice you made it twice.
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I think a lot of on the fence guys will get fired based on whether or not there's some hot trendy new coaches out there to replace them. As far as I read so far the coaching pool is pretty thin to pull from this year and if 8+ guys get fired there could be a lot of teams settling for their 3rd or 4th choices.
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Vance Joseph should be Spicy Hot. He's on track to coach the Broncos to their worst regular season record in franchise history. And Elway just may very well be a cancer to the organization, yet a bunch of dumb yokel homers will continue to worship him.
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No Butt Stuff posted:Imagine the dump truck full of cash that it would take to get John Dorsey in at the Browns. In retrospect, heh. Eric the Mauve posted:What the Browns need is someone like John McKay, who can lose almost every game and provide hilarious quotes like "Those of you who need a shower, take one" and "Based on today, none of our guys is going to go to the Hall of Fame... but then again, neither am I" while doing it For anyone familiar with him this is like the go to quote from McKay, but it's good enough to repeat. Reporter: “What do you think of your team’s execution coach?” McKay: “I’m all for it.” ...and after looking it up maybe he never actually said that. But it's like McNabb throwing up in the Super Bowl, it's just accepted as fact and if it ain't true it oughtta be.
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Eli Wiggum posted:Vance Joseph should be Spicy Hot. He's on track to coach the Broncos to their worst regular season record in franchise history. What are the cliffs on Elway? I was rooting for him as the old guy back then but it sounds like he has gone off his rocker.
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Yeah the Elway thing is real tough because he's not good at his job but he's also a franchise legend. If he wasn't named John Elway he would probably be seeing the door sometime soon but have fun explaining that move to the fans.
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GobiasIndustries posted:Yeah the Elway thing is real tough because he's not good at his job but he's also a franchise legend. If he wasn't named John Elway he would probably be seeing the door sometime soon but have fun explaining that move to the fans. he lucked into Peyton Manning but the Broncos went to 2 Super Bowls in the last 5 years & missed the playoffs once (arguably because the head coach stroked out on the sidelines again, they were 9-7 & one more win would've put them past the Dolphins into the wildcard via tiebreaker), he's fine for quite a while unless his post-Joseph coaching hire also shits the bed.
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Grittybeard posted:In retrospect, heh. I can't wait to see the details of that contract. It's weird that he would go to Cleveland of all places, unless he just really missed the rust belt.
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No Butt Stuff posted:I can't wait to see the details of that contract. It's weird that he would go to Cleveland of all places, unless he just really missed the rust belt. Not that weird. They are the Cubs of football. Imagine being the guy who turned that organization around. Plus, you have a bunch of extra picks waiting for you and a lot of young talent and cap room. The downside is you only get a week to fix it. 
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oldskool posted:he lucked into Peyton Manning but the Broncos went to 2 Super Bowls in the last 5 years & missed the playoffs once (arguably because the head coach stroked out on the sidelines again, they were 9-7 & one more win would've put them past the Dolphins into the wildcard via tiebreaker), he's fine for quite a while unless his post-Joseph coaching hire also shits the bed. He also basically turned the 2013 Offensive juggernaut Broncos who couldn't stop anyone into the 2015 defensive juggernaut team in two seasons. It was drat impressive. He's just not good at QB evaluation
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