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bump_fn
Apr 12, 2004

two of them

jarofpiss posted:

whatever jack chick was before he died and went to hell

those are physical comics that are also scanned nice try tho

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Grand Prize Winner
Feb 19, 2007


StashAugustine posted:

proer tip they have to do this for everything

no, i mean like in advance

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?

Goon Danton posted:

I think I've found a possible confounding factor.


Baha'i seems pretty nice :shrug:
Zoroastrianism and Yazidism are pretty cool


Vhak lord of hate posted:

me since liz has lovely politics due her catholic beliefs and yet is somehow held in high regard??
Yeah, sure believing in daemons is fun and all good, but trying to be left while also supporting terrible beliefs that shouldn't define your religion is not. I mean really, where in the Catholic Bible does it say that abortion is bad and gays don't deserve happiness? Its right there with why priests aren't allowed to marry/be women. The problem with Catholicism has nothing to do with the actual religion or message, but completely on the church itself.

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


peoples religion is none of my drat business and if dsa members' religion conflicts with the DSA platform thats between them and god theres my hot take

HiHo ChiRho
Oct 23, 2010

Non practicing Papist here but socialist catholics generally have a great understanding on guilt tripping and should use that to their advantage to push a left message to other Catholics.

fermun
Nov 4, 2009
https://twitter.com/Kirkdify/status/941106392177377280
This is the candidate for lt gov that basically every California chapter has now endorsed

bump_fn
Apr 12, 2004

two of them

fermun posted:

https://twitter.com/Kirkdify/status/941106392177377280
This is the candidate for lt gov that basically every California chapter has now endorsed

this is real good imho

Tricky Dick Nixon
Jul 26, 2010

by Nyc_Tattoo
serious talk in c-spam I know but I hear some California chapters are talking about municipal or state banks ala the North Dakota model and I'd be interested to hear both ideologically and tactically why folks are interested in a state-run bank as opposed to a credit union with membership control.

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?
https://twitter.com/CPotterPgh/status/940698931952013312
https://twitter.com/CPotterPgh/status/940708795633819649
It should be noted that the recent PGH DSA news has brought the most non-Steelers related webtraffic to the Pittsburgh Post Gazette

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


oh buddy the comments on that article :discourse:

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


Agean90 posted:

oh buddy the comments on that article :discourse:



:sbahj:

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





Liam Nissan noooooooooo!

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.

Raskolnikov38 posted:

catholicism is cool because catholic schools are probably the #1 producer of atheists

And you learn how to fingerbang real good too!

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.

jarofpiss posted:

cathjolics are better than anarchists

Franco spotted

Helter Skelter
Feb 10, 2004

BEARD OF HAVOC

Tricky Dick Nixon posted:

serious talk in c-spam I know but I hear some California chapters are talking about municipal or state banks ala the North Dakota model and I'd be interested to hear both ideologically and tactically why folks are interested in a state-run bank as opposed to a credit union with membership control.
You can have both, but among many other things, having state run banks means that you no longer have states putting tax revenue into accounts run by private banking institutions. It gives much more control of a state's economy to the state itself.

BrainParasite
Jan 24, 2003


bump_fn posted:

what religion is based on a webcomic

Penny Ariosophy seems to be gaining popularity.

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?
I feel like my apathy/excitement for Disney buying out Fox and becoming even more of a megacorp is going to be the thing that gets me sent to a purity gulag

Vhak lord of hate
Jun 6, 2008

I AM DRINK THE BLOOD OF JESUS
its the only way you're going to get storm in a black panther movie and that's unfortunately the only way you'll get a good storm

big black turnout
Jan 13, 2009



Fallen Rib

Vhak lord of hate posted:

its the only way you're going to get storm in a black panther movie and that's unfortunately the only way you'll get a good storm

I too care deeply about children's books' portrayal in movies

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?
Plus really what is the Disney megacorp going to do to me or the masses other than make movies and add new additions to their theme parks.

Its not like its UPMC which is a "non-profit" healthcare company that spends most of its time buying out competition and refusing to pay taxes and trying everything in the world to prevent its workers from unionizing.

bump_fn
Apr 12, 2004

two of them
disney extending copyright laws to infinity so they can protect a drawing of a mouse some racist guy drew a thousand years ago is extremely bad and capitalist

monopolies are also extremely bad and capitalist

reignonyourparade
Nov 15, 2012

GoluboiOgon posted:

this is actually very untrue. there are many catholics who don't agree with the church's politics. the catholic church is not a very democratic place, so people just sort of live with the differences. look at how popular pope francis is, despite being very economically liberal.

can we not start a second kulturkampf within the dsa please? i know kaiser wilhelm was known for good socialist praxis, but once was enough.

I mean I was literally saying "basically all catholics don't agree with the church's politics" it's just that half of them are more left than the catholic church and support abortion and the other half are more right than the catholic church and support the death penalty.

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?

bump_fn posted:

disney extending copyright laws to infinity so they can protect a drawing of a mouse some racist guy drew a thousand years ago is extremely bad and capitalist

monopolies are also extremely bad and capitalist
I agree on the copyright bullshit and hope one day they can get hosed over and slowly lose their characters to the public domain. (I think that is happening in 2021 when Mickey becomes 100 iirc)

Also I hope if anti-trust laws hit Disney, that all the Marvel aren't scattered to the winds again.

Also gently caress Fox and the Murdoch's

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

big black turnout posted:

I too care deeply about children's books' portrayal in movies

I will not rest until newspaper Spider-Man gets a movie franchise

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

Raskolnikov38 posted:

I will not rest until newspaper Spider-Man gets a movie franchise



The Spider-Man newspaper strip is the best thing to come out of Marvel and it's also the longest thing Stan Lee has ever written

Autism Sneaks
Nov 21, 2016

big black turnout posted:

I too care deeply about children's books' portrayal in movies

:jerkbag: lol at this still being a forum catchphrase in 2017

swimsuit
Jan 22, 2009

yeah
shut up, nerd

big black turnout
Jan 13, 2009



Fallen Rib

Raskolnikov38 posted:

I will not rest until newspaper Spider-Man gets a movie franchise



this is legit

superhero poo poo supports fascism and great men thinking though so gently caress it

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



achillesforever6 posted:

I agree on the copyright bullshit and hope one day they can get hosed over and slowly lose their characters to the public domain. (I think that is happening in 2021 when Mickey becomes 100 iirc)

Also I hope if anti-trust laws hit Disney, that all the Marvel aren't scattered to the winds again.

Also gently caress Fox and the Murdoch's

mickey mouse was going to enter the public domain in like 2000 and then disney rammed through a law in 1998 to extend all copyrights by at like 20 or 25 years lol and theyll certainly do it again

or maybe this time theyll sell all their IP to their dutch subsidiary for a dollar then figure out way to enforce dutch copyright law worldwide

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981

our steering committee voted down incorporation last night, kind of bummed about that decision. we're now looking at fiscal sponsorship with Jobs with Justice, which is okay, but we'll have to give them 10% of our donations. any other larger chapters dealing with this?

GunnerJ
Aug 1, 2005

Do you think this is funny?

Karl Barks posted:

our steering committee voted down incorporation last night, kind of bummed about that decision. we're now looking at fiscal sponsorship with Jobs with Justice, which is okay, but we'll have to give them 10% of our donations. any other larger chapters dealing with this?

Our chapter's pretty small but we're having a hard time deciding whether to incorporate on our own or to get an account from national on their tax status (really unclear as to the details of what that means). I think we'd rather disband than tie ourselves financially to the local JWJ outfit though tbh.

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981

GunnerJ posted:

Our chapter's pretty small but we're having a hard time deciding whether to incorporate on our own or to get an account from national on their tax status (really unclear as to the details of what that means). I think we'd rather disband than tie ourselves financially to the local JWJ outfit though tbh.

the reason we did this is because national has explicitly told us they do not want us using their account. we're probably the 3rd or 4th largest chapter in the country

unbutthurtable
Dec 2, 2016

Total. Tox. Rereg.


College Slice

Karl Barks posted:

the reason we did this is because national has explicitly told us they do not want us using their account. we're probably the 3rd or 4th largest chapter in the country

So... Why wouldn't people want to incorporate?

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981

several of the people on the steering committee felt it was unfair to illegal immigrants, people with precarious jobs, etc, that their names would be associated with DSA in a public manner

an actual dog
Nov 18, 2014

if you're not mad about the Disney side of the Fox-Disney deal, get mad about Rupert Murdoch suddenly having $52 billion dollars to do whatever he wants with

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

an actual dog posted:

if you're not mad about the Disney side of the Fox-Disney deal, get mad about Rupert Murdoch suddenly having $52 billion dollars to do whatever he wants with

maybe he can rebuild that house that burned down because of la's permanent wildfire season lol

Tricky Dick Nixon
Jul 26, 2010

by Nyc_Tattoo
As I understood it from the stakeholder conference call, national is offering a group exemption for tax-exempt status, not actually their "account", incorporation is something that is separate from tax filing that just makes you a legal entity.

I'm not sure I perfectly understand the concern about incorporating, but I also don't know what the local state laws are on it. In Oklahoma, you can have as little as one director listed on the board when incorporating. We decided that we'd only require the co-chairs and treasurer to be on the "board" for incorporation, since that was already what was provided in our bylaws as whose names would be on any financial accounts. If the concern is having people's names listed legally, I think you can make sure only a few roles are explicitly for that (like Treasurer).

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981

Tricky Dick Nixon posted:

As I understood it from the stakeholder conference call, national is offering a group exemption for tax-exempt status, not actually their "account", incorporation is something that is separate from tax filing that just makes you a legal entity.

I'm not sure I perfectly understand the concern about incorporating, but I also don't know what the local state laws are on it. In Oklahoma, you can have as little as one director listed on the board when incorporating. We decided that we'd only require the co-chairs and treasurer to be on the "board" for incorporation, since that was already what was provided in our bylaws as whose names would be on any financial accounts. If the concern is having people's names listed legally, I think you can make sure only a few roles are explicitly for that (like Treasurer).

supposedly, we were told that if we did not incorporate, national would withold their tax ID # - not sure if this is the same thing as what you're saying

we considered the smaller officers group for the incorporation, they said this was like creating a two tier voting system, and it was unfair

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?

an actual dog posted:

if you're not mad about the Disney side of the Fox-Disney deal, get mad about Rupert Murdoch suddenly having $52 billion dollars to do whatever he wants with
Yeah but at the same time Fox was looking to sell and if it wasn't going to be Disney, Comcast was next in line and Comcast is 100000000x more evil than Disney (not saying Disney isn't evil of course)

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GlyphGryph
Jun 23, 2013

Down came the glitches and burned us in ditches and we slept after eating our dead.

Karl Barks posted:

supposedly, we were told that if we did not incorporate, national would withold their tax ID # - not sure if this is the same thing as what you're saying

we considered the smaller officers group for the incorporation, they said this was like creating a two tier voting system, and it was unfair

You chapter seems kind of dumb tbh

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