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Last Chance posted:how are people still tricked by apple fan mockups? theyve existed for years i'm cingular wireless
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# ? Dec 18, 2017 01:05 |
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pram posted:how would you even read emails on the shuffle just like on the Apple Watch in the most annoying useless way possible
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# ? Dec 18, 2017 01:06 |
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Last Chance posted:how are people still tricked by apple fan mockups? theyve existed for years i wasn't "tricked". i know it's just some dumbass graphic designer's masturbatory bullshit. i was pointing out how stupid it was, along with all the other "But what if OS X was more like iOS?" garbage these idiots keep making GBS threads out. the stuff about
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# ? Dec 18, 2017 01:11 |
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Doc Block posted:i wasn't "tricked". i know it's just some dumbass graphic designer's masturbatory bullshit. i was pointing out how stupid it was, along with all the other "But what if OS X was more like iOS?" garbage these idiots keep making GBS threads out. https://twitter.com/dril/status/134787490526658561
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# ? Dec 18, 2017 01:12 |
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Doc Block posted:i wasn't "tricked". i know it's just some dumbass graphic designer's masturbatory bullshit. i was pointing out how stupid it was, along with all the other "But what if OS X was more like iOS?" garbage these idiots keep making GBS threads out. photos.app looks like itunes.app, honestly. i don't see what you're saying. they haven't really "iOSified" macOs much lately. people were crowing about that when they removed scrollbars a long time ago and after the visual overhaul in yosemite, but really not much has changed. some might say macos has even been a bit overlooked and no huge interface changes have been made in a while
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# ? Dec 18, 2017 01:36 |
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timb needs to fire the itunes team and hire the QA team back and apple will be the best it’s been in years
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# ? Dec 18, 2017 01:37 |
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making the computer easy to use is a good thing
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# ? Dec 18, 2017 01:40 |
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i wonder what that new itunes app for windows will be like. one one hand, it's probably gonna be super barebones, on the other, doesn't take much to beat the status quo
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# ? Dec 18, 2017 01:51 |
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Bulgogi Hoagie posted:timb needs to fire the itunes team and hire the QA team back and apple will be the best it’s been in years i like how the pinned taskbar icon breaks every time itunes updates for some reason
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# ? Dec 18, 2017 01:56 |
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I was pissed off when Photos.app came out because I spent a long time sperging out with iPhoto, training it to identify faces in thousands of (mostly pre-iOS) photos, and then poof all that was gone. Then iOS and Photos brought face detection back and leveraged all that existing work I put in that I thought was lost forever. So that was pretty cool.
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# ? Dec 18, 2017 02:04 |
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non-4K ATV is backordered for 1-2 weeks as well Now people won’t choose the wrong model when they buy one.
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# ? Dec 18, 2017 02:07 |
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infernal machines posted:so they'd get sued by microsoft for ripping off metro design language? lmao
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# ? Dec 18, 2017 02:16 |
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iphone x is good i can say poop to my friends while also being a poop
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# ? Dec 18, 2017 04:16 |
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Last Chance posted:photos.app looks like itunes.app, honestly. i don't see what you're saying. they haven't really "iOSified" macOs much lately. Photos.app looks and works like a Jony Ives-ed iPhone app that was ported to macOS. It even has the iOS navigation. In fact, somebody poked around and discovered that Apple had ported parts of UIKit to macOS and used that in Photos.app.
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cinci zoo sniper posted:https://www.behance.net/gallery/57309065/Apple-OS-MacOS-2020-redesign-Edge-to-edge-Macbook love too have all ui elements at least 3 metres away from each other at all times Doc Block posted:Photos.app looks and works like a Jony Ives-ed iPhone app that was ported to macOS. It even has the iOS navigation. didn't they do something like this for itunes/safari for windows. truly the gold standard Generic Monk fucked around with this message at 16:43 on Dec 18, 2017 |
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Doc Block posted:Photos.app looks and works like a Jony Ives-ed iPhone app that was ported to macOS. It even has the iOS navigation. just because a framework was ported doesn't mean the user interface was copied wholesale into macOS. god help them that they wanted a grid of photos to share some code Generic Monk posted:
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# ? Dec 18, 2017 17:34 |
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Generic Monk posted:didn't they do something like this for itunes/safari for windows. truly the gold standard they originally did this for QuickTime. for iTunes they used the same portability layer to make iTunes for windows. of course when iTunes needed a web browser it couldn’t integrate IE, so they ported WebKit and bundled it with iTunes. years later, when they were killing off carbon on macOS, iTunes was the only first party application that hadn’t ported off of it yet (because they are idiots). so they embedded a carbon framework emulator inside of iTunes for a few releases. iTunes became the only 32 bit app to ship with macOS for several years until they managed to completely transition to cocoa.
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# ? Dec 18, 2017 17:55 |
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Last Chance posted:just because a framework was ported doesn't mean the user interface was copied wholesale into macOS. they ported UINavgiationController and some other iOS-specific UI elements, which is why Photos.app on the Mac looks and feels like an iOS app. macOS has always been able to display a grid of images. you’re probably the first person I’ve seen NOT say that Photos.app on the Mac looks like an iOS app.
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# ? Dec 18, 2017 18:01 |
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Doc Block posted:they ported UINavgiationController and some other iOS-specific UI elements, which is why Photos.app on the Mac looks and feels like an iOS app. macOS has always been able to display a grid of images. idk, when i see a traditional sidebar + menu bar at the top of the screen, those things don't scream iOS user interface to me. the only thing that's similar is the photo grid... but why shouldn't that look similar? it's clear from those screenshots that apple is not just tossing the iPad UI into macOS or something.
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# ? Dec 18, 2017 18:27 |
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the charts here are pretty crazy, and we have a pretty good idea of what performance degradation looks like https://twitter.com/jfpoole/status/942786620746620930
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# ? Dec 18, 2017 19:00 |
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haha, apple is cheating on benchmarks? weird if so, but why would the age of the battery, as a proxy for determining if you are in the window where reviews are being written, differ?
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# ? Dec 18, 2017 19:16 |
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what? how did you get that from the tweet/article?
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# ? Dec 18, 2017 19:17 |
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see
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# ? Dec 18, 2017 19:18 |
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they're masking battery degradation by silently lowering processor speeds as battery capacity decreases, "my phone is old and slow now" is real
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# ? Dec 18, 2017 19:20 |
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ufarn posted:the charts here are pretty crazy, and we have a pretty good idea of what performance degradation looks like sounds like apple is using battery age as a proxy for ownership lifetime in order to tigger their "encourage new phone purchase" code. makes sense as the batteries aren't designed to be replaced and you never know when a unit will actually start its life.
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# ? Dec 18, 2017 19:20 |
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the phones are running slower so that the battery drains less quickly when it has lower capacity they're not "cheating" benchmarks in as much as the phone does perform exactly as benchmarked when the battery is at full capacity
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# ? Dec 18, 2017 19:22 |
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Slower phone with better battery life seems like a valid tradeoff for a communication device though they should be presenting battery health data and letting users know what is happening
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# ? Dec 18, 2017 19:22 |
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infernal machines posted:the phones are running slower so that the battery drains less quickly when it has lower capacity whoa I mean it makes sense but now “planned obsolescence” people have a much stronger argument
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# ? Dec 18, 2017 19:23 |
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if you made the user aware that a new battery would make their phone work better then they'd buy a new battery instead of a new phone.
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# ? Dec 18, 2017 19:24 |
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BangersInMyKnickers posted:Slower phone with better battery life seems like a valid tradeoff for a communication device though they should be presenting battery health data and letting users know what is happening yeah, it makes sense to me assuming your primary use case for the phone isn't running benchmarks, but it's also not something people were aware of Comfy Fleece Sweater posted:whoa well, except it's pretty much not "planned obsolescence" since it happens specifically to keep the phone usable for longer as the battery degrades from use.
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# ? Dec 18, 2017 19:26 |
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Shaggar posted:if you made the user aware that a new battery would make their phone work better then they'd buy a new battery instead of a new phone. people buy new phones every 12-24mo regardless, people who hang on them longer are either weird edge-case people like me or folks buying flipped/used phones
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# ? Dec 18, 2017 19:30 |
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ufarn posted:the charts here are pretty crazy, and we have a pretty good idea of what performance degradation looks like does this affect iphone 6? i'm not paying money to benchmark this dinged up phone
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BangersInMyKnickers posted:people buy new phones every 12-24mo regardless, people who hang on them longer are either weird edge-case people like me or folks buying flipped/used phones people buy new phones every 12-24 mo because they're upset their phones are slower, what the christ
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# ? Dec 18, 2017 19:54 |
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hypothetically, would they not buy new phones if they just lasted 8-12 hours on a charge instead?
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# ? Dec 18, 2017 19:57 |
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infernal machines posted:hypothetically, would they not buy new phones if they just lasted 8-12 hours on a charge instead? or they would buy a new battery. it would have been cool to know for sure if that option were clear.
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# ? Dec 18, 2017 20:01 |
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yeah most would buy a new battery. especially now that the differences between models is pretty minimal.
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# ? Dec 18, 2017 20:03 |
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The biggest thing with li-ion battery life is not fully discharging them. This can make battery endurance take a big poo poo if you're already running the thing below 50% on a regular basis and then the reduced capacity starts turning that in to full discharges on a regular basis. If apple is smart they will only do the throttling when the usage pattern has the user regularly doing deep discharges to try to maintain more capacity long term
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# ? Dec 18, 2017 20:08 |
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Generic Monk posted:does this affect iphone 6? i'm not paying money to benchmark this dinged up phone run geekbench fully charged run geekbench at each 10% drop you tell me
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Endless Mike posted:run geekbench fully charged quote:i'm not paying money to benchmark this dinged up phone sry
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The Management posted:they originally did this for QuickTime. for iTunes they used the same portability layer to make iTunes for windows. Microsoft does the same poo poo -- Windows code was ported for Office on Mac and, in the case of SQL Server on Linux, they just shipped the Windows dlls.
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