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Darth Walrus posted:Probably a helpful thread for future show discussion - long story short, Trigger isn’t heavily involved in this show outside of design and animation, and all the writing is from A1’s end. So at the very least, predicting how this will go based on Trigger’s past output is unlikely to be too useful. We still have Gridman and Promare left.
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Darth Walrus posted:Probably a helpful thread for future show discussion - long story short, Trigger isn’t heavily involved in this show outside of design and animation, and all the writing is from A1’s end. So at the very least, predicting how this will go based on Trigger’s past output is unlikely to be too useful. 1) In what way is this twitter person a reliable source? 2) The tweet itself contradicts what you said, regarding design.
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i have more followers than that guy and i follow way less people so i say Trigger did EVERYTHING
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AnacondaHL posted:1) In what way is this twitter person a reliable source? Yeah, somewhat poor phrasing on my part. The mechanical design is by someone who works with Trigger, but isn’t a Trigger employee.
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Jan 22, 2018 19:12
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I barely saw Trigger when I watched it, it looked all A-1 to me.
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Jan 22, 2018 20:48
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but it has boobs so it's trigger
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people are way too concerned what’s trigger and what’s not
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the 'A' in A-1 stands for rear end
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Jan 22, 2018 20:52
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Given Hiro looks like an extra from Birdy:Decode, there's hardly any evolution to who they got doing character designs. At least for him, the rest of the cast looks better IMO
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Jan 22, 2018 21:02
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weird that people tripped over themselves to defend the fanservice in KLK yet treat the stuff here like the most heinous crime imaginable...general internet discourse observation
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Jan 22, 2018 21:06
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People can argue the reason for the fanservice in KLK, FRANXX can't do that yet. But given what we have, I hope it's a good one.
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Good god that entire second episode was cringe-worthy on so many levels.
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Ibram Gaunt posted:weird that people tripped over themselves to defend the fanservice in KLK yet treat the stuff here like the most heinous crime imaginable...general internet discourse observation Of course, it could simply be that KLK burnt a whole bunch of goodwill - though that’s not hugely relevant, of course, because Imaishi’s just the animation guy this time round.
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Ibram Gaunt posted:weird that people tripped over themselves to defend the fanservice in KLK yet treat the stuff here like the most heinous crime imaginable...general internet discourse observation klk was about lesbians and satsuki had that one speech about how she doesn't care if people look at her, that makes me an ally when I masturbate to it (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Understanding posted:People can argue the reason for the fanservice in KLK, FRANXX can't do that yet. The society they live in is ultra utilitaryism focused and heavily oppressive and controlling. The main group of characters are dominated by the thought and need to be useful and contributing, either from instilled sense of value or the fact that the threat seems to be a thinly veiled death sentence. To that end the society doesn’t even view sex the way we see it, it’s purely a means of preserving the human race (because it defeats giant sound dinosaurs, much like in real life of course). All the acts are fully practical. Despite the fact that characters have crushes on other people they don’t understand shows of affection, like kissing and flirting (explicitly they don’t know what kissing is and are confused by what the word dealing could even mean). The fanservice to us is juxtaposed against this because of how contrasting the viewer would see it Altnernatively and also, they want to make a horny show, and that’s fine too.
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darealkooky posted:klk was about lesbians and satsuki had that one speech about how she doesn't care if people look at her, that makes me an ally when I masturbate to it 
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kill la kill wasn't even the good anime about lesbians that aired in 2013 anyway i think people should actually wait to see where this show goes before being super judgy about it
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AnacondaHL posted:1) In what way is this twitter person a reliable source? Has he worked on any trigger shows? No. He wrote The Idolm@ster, did character design for panty and stocking and gurren lagann, and did storyboarding on the first rebuild of evangelion film. None of those are trigger. He's a mid-era Gainax guy who had a huge hand in rounding up the ex-Gainax crew that did Idolm@ster, and has since mostly done storyboarding for OPs. Another writer on the project who's also credited with the plot outlines, as well as scripts, is Naotaka Hayashi, who wrote the original Steins;Gate VN as well as Plastic Memories. You'll note those also aren't Trigger anime, and he's never had any work involving Trigger in his entire life. Regardless of the extent of Trigger's involvement, their involvement on the actual writing is literally zero. You don't need inside industry knowledge to know that, you can just look at the credits. Endorph fucked around with this message at 21:44 on Jan 22, 2018 |
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darealkooky posted:klk was about lesbians and satsuki had that one speech about how she doesn't care if people look at her, that makes me an ally when I masturbate to it Finally. Someone gets it.
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the best girl in klk (nonon) was the one who had the least amount of fanservice relative to all the other female characters. thoughts?
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Endorph posted:the best girl in klk (nonon) was the one who had the least amount of fanservice relative to all the other female characters. thoughts? Coincidental.
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Endorph posted:the best girl in klk (nonon) was the one who had the least amount of fanservice relative to all the other female characters. thoughts? i want nonon to gather an entire orchestra and blare instruments into my ears, rendering me deaf
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RME posted:Altnernatively and also, they want to make a horny show, and that’s fine too. I like the idea of a society so far removed from human sexuality that they don't see their bondage room mech cockpits the same way we do. But then we have the scene in ep1 where Dr. FranXX just straight up grabs Nana's rear end. Creepy as it was, it could show it's not that ultra utilitarian, but the parasites live ultra controlled lives instead. They're already shown to be disposable. I'm still wrapping my head around how the female partner is the interface/control console for the mechs. Their hoods are instrument clusters, their controls on their hips. They have heels (why?) Rewatching ep1 right now 0ni is wearing the appropriate suit for her mech. I don't know, I'm going to watch it with my brain off until I can make more sense of it.
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The Colonel posted:kill la kill wasn't even the good anime about lesbians that aired in 2013 Wasn't the only gay stuff in klk the butt slap meme scenes that broke everyone's brains wrt trigger forever anyway but also quote:anyway i think people should actually wait to see where this show goes before being super judgy about it The binge model wins again 
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Sakuga Blog did a rundown of FRANXX, which does a good job of saying who did what. The director is best known for Idolmaster.
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Motto posted:Wasn't the only gay stuff in klk the butt slap meme scenes that broke everyone's brains wrt trigger forever anyway right at the end there's a sort of vaguely implied thing with mako asking ryuko out on a date and when ryuko is brainwashed in the second half she kisses nui on the lips. otherwise it's just rapemom yeah meanwhile symphogear g aired in the same year hell sasami-san aired the same year as kill la kill and the lesbian relationship in that was a monumentally bigger part of its plot The Colonel fucked around with this message at 22:09 on Jan 22, 2018 |
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i'm certain klk already had takes defending the nudity as empowering/subversive within the first two eps so yeah this show inspiring such strong disgust elsewhere online seems pretty weird to me, and the only thing i can really chalk it up to is the Trigger association bringing that bad blood? or maybe in a short few years the bar of tolerance has drastically dropped to where something like this is incredibly offensive idk
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afaik most of the people I've seen not be into franxx didn't like KLK either.
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Endorph posted:the best girl in klk (nonon) was the one who had the least amount of fanservice relative to all the other female characters. thoughts? We counting the Nudist Beach stuff later on? dogsicle posted:i'm certain klk already had takes defending the nudity as empowering/subversive within the first two eps so yeah this show inspiring such strong disgust elsewhere online seems pretty weird to me, and the only thing i can really chalk it up to is the Trigger association bringing that bad blood? or maybe in a short few years the bar of tolerance has drastically dropped to where something like this is incredibly offensive idk It got pretty hard to defend the repeated incestuous rape as empowering and subversive.
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Darth Walrus posted:
*cracks knuckles wickedhatedly* watch and learn
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dogsicle posted:i'm certain klk already had takes defending the nudity as empowering/subversive within the first two eps so yeah this show inspiring such strong disgust elsewhere online seems pretty weird to me, and the only thing i can really chalk it up to is the Trigger association bringing that bad blood? or maybe in a short few years the bar of tolerance has drastically dropped to where something like this is incredibly offensive idk Darth Walrus posted:nudist beach
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Endorph posted:the best girl in klk (nonon) was the one who had the least amount of fanservice relative to all the other female characters. thoughts? Her final Symphony Regalia consists of a heart-shaped maebari. But before that one, I'd agree with you.
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Endorph posted:the anime discourse has definitely changed in the intervening 5 years, but also everyone was trying to make themselves like trigger There actually were female nudist beach grunts, but they never amounted to anything. Also there's tenis girl in the second episode, she was good.
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Wait, so we're doing this? What's next, Zorak coming back to ADTRW?
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an actual dog posted:Sakuga Blog did a rundown of FRANXX, which does a good job of saying who did what. The director is best known for Idolmaster. This is much better than the random twitter person, thank you.
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I think internet discussion about sexuality in entertainment is hard to do, especially intentionally fetishy sexuality. What if we had A Thread About Kill La Kill? Eela6 fucked around with this message at 22:33 on Jan 22, 2018 |
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That's right people, this ain't a thread about lesbian incest and sexual clothing. This is the butt handles thread. Limit your discussion to butt handles and butt handle handling.
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Subtlety is dead. RIP I will say this: This would've been a bit more interesting and entertaining and less misleading if it didn't have the giant robots in it and just was a normal show about the sex lives and relationship troubles of these couples. At least I wouldn't be as confused about the direction of this if it was just a regular slice of life. Like, I figured, "Oh hey, I haven't seen robots in a while" and went in blind and I now I'm just baffled. I'm not sure why these things needed to be combined. Like, just make a horny show about horny people. That's perfectly legit. Why does it need the robots?
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i cant believe this is the first anime, ever, to combine hosed up sexual dynamics and mecha
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the robots should gently caress
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