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DJExile posted:The Cavs got headlines because Lebron is also the GM and coach of the Cavs, and the NBA needs stories beyond "Golden State is going to destroy everyone again". Trades are big, yeah, but trades just for the sake of trades aren't really going to do much. I miss Holmgren and his insane trades
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Feb 12, 2018 19:42
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Ginette Reno posted:I miss Holmgren and his insane trades Ghost for Karlson.
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Feb 12, 2018 19:45
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Duckman2008 posted:Ghost for Karlson. christ, he would have 100% done this
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Feb 12, 2018 19:55
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ThinkTank posted:It's 2 weeks until the NHL trade deadline and the 31 teams in the league have completed 20 trades involving players who have appeared in the NHL this season since the season began. Of those 20, only 10 have included players who appear in their NHL lineups regularly. Of those 10, only 3 involved players that play above the 4th line/bottom pairing/backup position. Every team has gotten super protective of their picks and prospects and no one wants to gently caress up a trade so the market has dried up compared to what it used to be. The fear of the salary cap and getting trapped into a bad situation seems to be loving with GMs minds.
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Feb 12, 2018 20:17
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Levitate posted:Have they always played this under Trotz and I just didn't pay attention? Seriously that's one of my/the criticisms of AV is that he runs this kind of man on man style defense that when it works it can work really well but is just hard to play and have everyone on the same page at the same time so it often breaks down with a bunch of guys looking around trying to figure out where they should go Nope. In fact this is a return to the Oates/Hunter years. Like someone else mentioned it can be extremely effective when everyone is on the same page but too often results in long possessions and egregious defensive breakdowns. I’m totally putting words into Trotz’s mouth but it feels like “this is playoff hockey, boys - If we play this way now we’ll be ready in April.” I just think it’s bad hockey.
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Feb 12, 2018 20:36
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Ginette Reno posted:I miss Holmgren and his insane trades and offer sheets fixed
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Feb 12, 2018 20:58
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https://twitter.com/Aportzline/status/963140576819507201 https://twitter.com/Aportzline/status/963141033046499330 iospace posted:fixed He only sent one, near as I can recall.
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Feb 12, 2018 21:03
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You make piddling little moves at the deadline and it doesn't move the needle (See: Mike Weber, Tim Gleason, Curtis Glencross) or you try for a home run and, if you're the Capitals, whiff horribly. (See: Shattenkirk, Erat). There have been just a couple deadline trades since the lockout I haven't totally hated. Wideman came pretty cheap. Watching Sergei Federov and Ovi was pretty cool too.
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Feb 12, 2018 21:08
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Glencross should have worked out better than it did. It's like the guy didn't start sucking until he got to DC.
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Feb 12, 2018 21:15
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DJExile posted:Vegas games sound like a hoot The one game I've been to (granted, my only major sporting event, so I'm biased) was a massive loving hoot, yeah. More energy than I've ever seen anywhere or heard of in a stadium. I hope I can go to a playoff game someday
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Feb 12, 2018 21:57
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Ciaphas posted:I hope I can go to a playoff game someday It’ll be years before Vegas even comes close to making the playoffs with that roster.
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Feb 12, 2018 22:00
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i am the bird posted:It’ll be years before Vegas even comes close to making the playoffs with that roster.  Sbisa instead of Gaunce?! What IS McPhee doing?
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i am the bird posted:It’ll be years before Vegas even comes close to making the playoffs with that roster. They're basically a lock to make it this year. They probably won't get out of the first round because there's no real top line and a lot of their success is in their ability to just destroy lower lines of teams, but they're pretty much already in, barring an absolutely massive collapse.
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Feb 12, 2018 22:12
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DJExile posted:They're basically a lock to make it this year. They probably won't get out of the first round because there's no real top line and a lot of their success is in their ability to just destroy lower lines of teams, but they're pretty much already in, barring an absolutely massive collapse. woosh
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i am the bird posted:It’ll be years before Vegas even comes close to making the playoffs with that roster. not being a sports guy it took me a minute to realize this was a whoosh post  I AM legit curious how they'll do in the postseason assuming they make it, though. They sure as hell monstered every prediction in the book thus far. also oh god upper bowl center ice tickets in the playoffs are gonna be like $500 aren't they 
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Tailored Sauce posted:NYR/Hartford Wolfpack is gonna make the playoffs I’ll be honest, even though I’m all-in for the fire sale and potential tank, and want the Rangers to sell off anything not nailed down.....there’s still a part of me that’s happy to see them winning lately and hope they drag a half-Wolfpack team into the playoffs, just to “see what happens” Then I saw that if the Rangers miss the playoffs this year then that means ticket prices will stay the same for next year so TANK! TANK! TANK!
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Feb 12, 2018 22:23
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Ciaphas posted:I AM legit curious how they'll do in the postseason assuming they make it, though. They sure as hell monstered every prediction in the book thus far. Considering they're as close to a lock for the playoffs as you can be without being an actual mathematical certainty at this point, I think you can breathe easy. Who knows how they'll do. They'll likely end up finishing in one of the top spots in the West and playing a WC team which is currently a toss up between a bunch of teams it's hard to say. They'd probably walk all over a team like Calgary or Anaheim, but a team like Dallas with their offense or LA with their depth could cause them trouble. Hockey is a lot more reliant on luck than most other sports, so the playoffs often come down to which relatively healthy team gets the hottest goaltending.
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OldSenileGuy posted:I’ll be honest, even though I’m all-in for the fire sale and potential tank, and want the Rangers to sell off anything not nailed down.....there’s still a part of me that’s happy to see them winning lately and hope they drag a half-Wolfpack team into the playoffs, just to “see what happens” Team probably isn't going to tank far enough to get a legit shot at Dahlen or a top 3 pick but people are gonna be so pissed off when they end up in the 15-ish range
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DJExile posted:christ, he would have 100% done this And it would have been a great deal for the Flyers and a pretty good deal for the Sens. Whatever a team would be willing to pay to get Crosby, Malkin, or McDavid for 2 years should be what they're willing to pay to get Karlsson for 2 years. He's suffered a bit this year due to a quick turnaround from offseason surgery, but a big part of his bad numbers this year are the result of a terrible PDO. You just have to look at the playoffs last year to see what a team would be getting if they traded for him - the Sens were bottom-tier trash in the 30 minutes/game he sat on the bench, but looked like a legitimate cup threat when he was on the ice.
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ThinkTank posted:woosh poo poo  bub spank posted:And it would have been a great deal for the Flyers and a pretty good deal for the Sens. Whatever a team would be willing to pay to get Crosby, Malkin, or McDavid for 2 years should be what they're willing to pay to get Karlsson for 2 years. I was going to point to his age but apparently he's only 27? Sumbitch I was certain he was over 30 by this point.
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bub spank posted:And it would have been a great deal for the Flyers and a pretty good deal for the Sens. Whatever a team would be willing to pay to get Crosby, Malkin, or McDavid for 2 years should be what they're willing to pay to get Karlsson for 2 years. Yeah, you take a trade like that and you run far to the hills. 
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bub spank posted:And it would have been a great deal for the Flyers and a pretty good deal for the Sens. Whatever a team would be willing to pay to get Crosby, Malkin, or McDavid for 2 years should be what they're willing to pay to get Karlsson for 2 years. That’s not how pdo works!
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Btw RAS, OldSenileGuy and I met up during Lowtax's goon meet thing and thought it might not be a bad idea to do a RAS Goonmeet somewhere at a Rangers' bar in NYC. If there is any interest in going out for some beers and watching the game, maybe we can plan something.
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lmao Kampfer has a broken hand and is out 4-6 weeks so now the Rangers called up Ryan Sproul Their defense is Skjei Holden Gilmore Pionk Sproul DeAngelo lol
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Aphrodite posted:That’s not how pdo works! I meant his bad +/- and his lack of points. He's got a 7.7% rel corsi this year (almost 4% higher than any other regular Sens skater), but the goalies have been sieves and pucks aren't going in when he's on the ice. bub spank fucked around with this message at 00:37 on Feb 13, 2018 |
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Levitate posted:lmao Kampfer has a broken hand and is out 4-6 weeks so now the Rangers called up Ryan Sproul So who subs in when Holden gets traded? Can Bereglazov come back?
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Tailored Sauce posted:Btw RAS, OldSenileGuy and I met up during Lowtax's goon meet thing and thought it might not be a bad idea to do a RAS Goonmeet somewhere at a Rangers' bar in NYC. If there is any interest in going out for some beers and watching the game, maybe we can plan something. I'm down.
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The only trade that ever mattered is that someone gave Tyler Seguin to Dallas and thought that was a really smart move at the time. loving
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Surely that guy is out of the league now.
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It's going to be funny when the Rangers defense is serviceable when it's mostly AHL guys who can move.
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OldSenileGuy posted:So who subs in when Holden gets traded? Can Bereglazov come back? I wonder...can't remember if he'd have to go through waivers or not Graves would probably be the next one up. Zodijackylite posted:It's going to be funny when the Rangers defense is serviceable when it's mostly AHL guys who can move. A team of Adam Clendenning's
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Levitate posted:lmao Kampfer has a broken hand and is out 4-6 weeks so now the Rangers called up Ryan Sproul Some of these names were surely picked out of a bag of Scrabble tiles
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Levitate posted:Pionk is really more of an onomatopoeia The animal that makes that sound is either adorable or terrifying.
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Levitate posted:lmao Kampfer has a broken hand and is out 4-6 weeks so now the Rangers called up Ryan Sproul I didn’t even realize Ryan Sproul didn’t play for Detroit anymore. Would the Rangers like any more of their useless defensemen? Detroit has a bunch!
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i am the bird posted:I didn’t even realize Ryan Sproul didn’t play for Detroit anymore. Would the Rangers like any more of their useless defensemen? Detroit has a bunch! I think they traded for him just to get an AHL defensemen and then everyone got hurt and blah blah blah surely this time Sproul will make his mark in the NHL
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This is a weird question. But I am wondering who is the most surprising player who is still playing. Like, a dude you haven't thought of in years, and then bam, they're still inexplicably in the NHL. The two names that come to mind for me are Ales Hemsky and Marian Gaborik. I think Peter Budaj also counts.
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Twin Cinema posted:This is a weird question. But I am wondering who is the most surprising player who is still playing. Like, a dude you haven't thought of in years, and then bam, they're still inexplicably in the NHL. The two names that come to mind for me are Ales Hemsky and Marian Gaborik. I think Peter Budaj also counts. daniel winnik and in a year or two vrbata
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