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Aphrodite posted:Do people consider that a good match? Nobody ever talks about the match itself. I don't think so but who knows. Also Eddy/Dean Malenko from Starrcade 97 is by far their worst match and WWE even put it on a DVD set for some reason.
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Survivor Series 97 is an awful, awful show. It's really amazing how much WWF's fantastic 1997 fell apart initially after Cornette got booted.
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I think Montreal is in that WM3 Hogan vs Andre category where its not necessarily a good match but The Thing Happened so its still notable.
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Feb 16, 2018 21:54
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MassRafTer posted:And all three are better than Montreal. was she missing the teeth to begin with? because i'm pretty sure i remember her showing off her hosed up grill during a Spike promo after the attack
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Baron Corbin posted:was she missing the teeth to begin with? because i'm pretty sure i remember her showing off her hosed up grill during a Spike promo after the attack I'm not sure honestly. It's something I remember vividly since I was sitting a few feet from where she spit them out and then saw the promo when it aired. Originally I thought "Holy poo poo he knocked out her teeth!" But then year's later someone involved with the show told me it was in fact a work. I was sad.
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MassRafTer posted:And all three are better than Montreal. Is that the one where Tanaka wins the strap?
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Is that the one where Tanaka wins the strap? That was the week before in I believe Nashville. That's probably their second best match together.
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Feb 16, 2018 23:32
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Feels Villeneuve posted:Survivor Series 97 is an awful, awful show. It's really amazing how much WWF's fantastic 1997 fell apart initially after Cornette got booted. Is starrcade 97 considered a bad show? I watched it and goddamn it was awful. Why are Vincent and mongo on the card and not Harlem heat, mysterio, wright, etc. they're sitting in the crowd, why not put them on???? The previously mentioned Eddie/dean match was the only good match and it was the loving opener.
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Starrcade 97 is probably the most disappointing show in the history of wrestling, almost entirely due to Hogan/Sting.
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ColeM posted:Is starrcade 97 considered a bad show? I watched it and goddamn it was awful. Why are Vincent and mongo on the card and not Harlem heat, mysterio, wright, etc. they're sitting in the crowd, why not put them on???? to be honest I don't really mind the card composition that much, Mongo was still popular in the midcard as a horseman and they used him to push Goldberg and Vincent was in a prelim 6 man so whatever its basically the ending to the top matches that basically kill it
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IYH 5's main event is marred somewhat by the constant cutaways to Davey's wife (who is also Bret's sister)- like there's a good dramatic reason for her concern but not a minute goes by without a close up of her looking worried.
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Feels Villeneuve posted:Survivor Series 97 is an awful, awful show. It's really amazing how much WWF's fantastic 1997 fell apart initially after Cornette got booted. It's actually one of the worst shows I've ever seen from WWF, certainly one of the worst from that time period.
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ColeM posted:Is starrcade 97 considered a bad show? I watched it and goddamn it was awful. Why are Vincent and mongo on the card and not Harlem heat, mysterio, wright, etc. they're sitting in the crowd, why not put them on???? It's a very bad show. There's bait and switches, lots of heel wins, the matches are mostly bad and at best average and it ends in supremely dumb fashion.
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dont even fink about it posted:It's actually one of the worst shows I've ever seen from WWF, certainly one of the worst from that time period. The D-Generation X PPV the next month is easily one of the very worst the company has ever done. Everything you said is still true, however. Man, despite being such one of the most historic months in BOTH WCW and WWF history--Nov 1997-Dec 1997 produced some god-awful PPVs.
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Shiki Dan posted:The D-Generation X PPV the next month is easily one of the very worst the company has ever done. it kind of rules that both wwf and wcw had awful theme ppvs for their big rebellious centerpiece stables. I watched a lot of wcw ppvs last year cause I never really watched wcw and I just wanted to and man that first souled out is one of the most tedious things I've ever watched. e: stupid phone typos shiksa fucked around with this message at 10:00 on Feb 17, 2018 |
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MassRafTer posted:And all three are better than Montreal. Isn’t that match on one of WWE’s ECW DVDs? The one with the red cover?
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MassRafTer posted:It's a very bad show. There's bait and switches, lots of heel wins, the matches are mostly bad and at best average and it ends in supremely dumb fashion. And Nash bailing on (what I certainly hope was supposed to be) his jobbing to The Giant. It was supposed to be the cathartic PPV where the good guys finally get the upper hand and....nope.
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ChrisBTY posted:And Nash bailing on (what I certainly hope was supposed to be) his jobbing to The Giant. the fans wanted it to be cathartic Bischoff not so much, there's a reason they did a test run of nWo Nitro as the go-home show
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To flip the current conversation a little, what would you do if you had to give someone a WWE network sub and three recommended PPVs to watch as their introduction to how actually good wrestling can be.
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WM17, NXT Brooklyn 2017, MITB 2011
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fart blood posted:Isn’t that match on one of WWE’s ECW DVDs? The one with the red cover? I don't remember which one but yes I believe so.
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flatluigi posted:To flip the current conversation a little, what would you do if you had to give someone a WWE network sub and three recommended PPVs to watch as their introduction to how actually good wrestling can be. Great American Bash 1989, Spring Stampede 1994, Canadian Stampede.
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flatluigi posted:To flip the current conversation a little, what would you do if you had to give someone a WWE network sub and three recommended PPVs to watch as their introduction to how actually good wrestling can be. WM32. Fastlane 2017. Battleground 2017. Then I give them a New Japan subscription and give them WK11, Dominion 6.11 and G127 Finals.
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What's this shite rovert is on about with Abbey A?
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ICHIBAHN posted:What's this shite rovert is on about with Abbey A? Apparently was a person who faked cancer to get money, and is now faking their death. Go to the Chris Regal thread for more
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This is honestly the least surprising news
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Are there any attendance figures for the last Nitro? I've seen bits and pieces of it over the years and all the big overhead shots give the impression the number of people actually there was tiny.
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Jetfire posted:Are there any attendance figures for the last Nitro? I've seen bits and pieces of it over the years and all the big overhead shots give the impression the number of people actually there was tiny. It's an event held in an outdoor night club I'm not sure if there are figures out there beyond what the capacity of the club was.
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Did anybody know Omega spoke fluent Japanese before he won the G1? I'm watching the promo and the audience seems pretty surprised. How many times has he spoken to the crowd in Japanese since then?
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I remember knowing he spoke Japanese before that but I can't remember where I found that out. I think from some interview from either early in his New Japan run or back in his DDT days. It always made his insistence he didn't speak Japanese during New Japan promos even funnier to me, and it was cool as gently caress when he suddenly broke it out that one time.
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Feb 19, 2018 04:45
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Yeah, Omega was speaking fluent Japanese during his DDT run, all the way up until his first show as a New Japan talent. The funnier instance of a man who insists he doesn't speak Japanese when he really does was when Yujiro Takahashi did the bit right after joining BC 
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It doesn't hurt that he's been basically living in Japan for something like 8-10 years, and not just a regular touring gaijin.
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Yeah, doesn't Kenny have dual citizenship between Japan and Canada now? At least I think he has to, given how long he's lived there.
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Japan actually doesn't offer dual citizenship, you have to abandon previous citizenship to naturalize in. He most likely is just considered a permanent resident. He probably won't make a decision about whether to pursue naturalization until after he retires. Which, no one could blame him, the actual process of becoming a Japanese citizen is one of the most goddamn ridiculous things in the world.
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Don't you have to take a Japanese name? I think I remember reading Akebono had to change his name when he became Japanese.
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You don't necessarily have to if you're Korean or Chinese - as there will likely be kanji that matches up to your name (as after all, kanji is derived from hanzi - Han Chinese - as is hanja, a Korean term/take-off of it, so there's a "swappable" nature at hand). The guy who owns SoftBank, the richest guy in Japan, used this sort of linguistic loophole (which Japan only made legally acceptable in 1983) to basically retain his name in 1990 when he abandoned his Korean citizenship - having been the grandchild of immigrants to Japan who evidently never abandoned their natural citizenship. But if you have a Latin-derived name like most of the rest of the world, you have to either decide to have your name be phonetically done in katakana (タイソン = TAISON, スミス = SUMISU) or decide on a new name/a name that closely resembles the meaning of the one your parents and bloodline gave to you, at least as far as I understand it (which I believe Akebono did). I imagine like harperdc or someone might be more aware of the peculiarities.
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This twitter account has been tweeting articles from old WWF Magazine, and he brought up something I had totally forgotten about. In an issue leading up to WMIV, they spoiled that Macho was winning the thing. https://twitter.com/DeanRasslin/status/965554076380553219
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Davros1 posted:This twitter account has been tweeting articles from old WWF Magazine, and he brought up something I had totally forgotten about. In an issue leading up to WMIV, they spoiled that Macho was winning the thing. Eh, it just says champion, not world heavyweight champion. (And at the time the belt was still that, WWE didn't rename it the WWF Championship until 1998) He already had his year long IC run by that point so the label isn't inaccurate.
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How did Shawn Michaels think he was cute but know he was sexy?
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reality_groove posted:How did Shawn Michaels think he was cute but know he was sexy? He's got the looks that drive the girls wild.
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