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Donald Trump's success so warped millions of progressive Americans that they think yelling good is critical while voting records are a negligible factor.
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are you for real op lmao
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Feb 23, 2018 22:57
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:Donald Trump's success so warped millions of progressive Americans that they think yelling good is critical while voting records are a negligible factor. well, donald trump had no voting record and yelled good and now the republican party rules america and gets everything it wants so
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Feb 23, 2018 22:57
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:for the record i unequivocally support bernie over any of these other libs because he's the only major democrat who actually focuses on the Main Issue and gets Actually Angry about it, which is railing against the "millionaire and billionaires" ie the capitalists for their looting of America and the World. Until another Democrat does this better I'm gonna vote bernie i dont care if he's 120 and spent the last 20 years hosting a celebrity competition reality tv show with Carrot TOp Also, pragmatically, he's shown that he can run a drat good campaign, and he has the name recognition needed to actually pull this off. The age rule is stupid because, on the off chance he dies (people live into their 90s now because it's not the loving 19th century), vice presidents exist!
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Feb 23, 2018 22:58
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donald trump is an aberration, americans are sick and tired of voting for candidates whomts voting record is not 43.54% good enough(according to Nate Silver the 538 man). just wait folks, the democrats are coming back roaring!
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Feb 23, 2018 22:59
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:donald trump is an aberration, americans are sick and tired of voting for candidates whomts voting record is not 43.54% good enough(according to Nate Silver the 538 man). just wait folks, the democrats are coming back roaring! Not if a bunch of dipshits refuse to vote for Kirsten Gillibrand because she's not Bernie Sanders, they're not.
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Feb 23, 2018 23:00
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the bitcoin of weed posted:id rather have the ancient corpse of bernie sanders in there than any of the shitlibs you settled on op Same, though if I had to choose then Gillibrand = Harris >>> Booker, IMO.
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Feb 23, 2018 23:01
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:Donald Trump's success so warped millions of progressive Americans that they think yelling good is critical while voting records are a negligible factor. That's literally true, though.
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Feb 23, 2018 23:01
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Nichael posted:I really don't get the age rule. People age differently, and lots of people go into their 70s and 80s without going full brainworms like mr. trump
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Feb 23, 2018 23:02
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:Not if a bunch of dipshits refuse to vote for Kirsten Gillibrand because she's not Bernie Sanders, they're not. im a proud jill stein voter Grey Fox posted:Yeah but they're severely out of touch with anyone under 40. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KF2X1o0FGA0
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Feb 23, 2018 23:03
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:Not if a bunch of dipshits refuse to vote for Kirsten Gillibrand because she's not Bernie Sanders, they're not. I'm voting for the Democrat for president in November 2020. Likewise, I'm voting for the Democrat literally running against my candidate in the Delaware Senate election on the off chance she loses. This doesn't mean you shouldn't work your rear end off in the primaries, up and down the ballot, to make sure the Democratic party is full of good people. It just means you shouldn't let Nazis come to power.
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Feb 23, 2018 23:03
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Grey Fox posted:Yeah but they're severely out of touch with anyone under 40. It's not really an age issue as much as it is a white people issue and a rich people issue.
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Feb 23, 2018 23:04
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Vox Nihili posted:That's literally true, though. The average American voter will listen to the candidate but will not research the voting record or really give a poo poo when it comes up. They want to hear for themselves what the candidate is going to do for them in the future, and charisma plays a huge role in convincing people that the promises are good & true.
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Feb 23, 2018 23:04
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how to not let old be a problem "i will choose a vp that's young and shares my views, cya nerds"
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Feb 23, 2018 23:04
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anime was right posted:how to not let old be a problem "i will choose a vp that's young and shares my views, cya nerds" give the VP to Keith Ellison, bing bing bong bong done
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Feb 23, 2018 23:05
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i do appreciate that this thread just initiated like 2 years of cspams dem primary fighting though. we can alraedy see the sides
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Feb 23, 2018 23:05
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:Not if a bunch of dipshits refuse to vote for Kirsten Gillibrand because she's not Bernie Sanders, they're not. I live in CA so I'll probably vote for the Actual Socialist again in 2020, as I did in 2016 and 2012, OP. Admittedly, the rest of my ballot will be straight ticket Democrat due to our wacky jungle primary system.
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Feb 23, 2018 23:06
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:im a proud jill stein voter drat if I voted for Jill Stein and I lived in Michigan, Wisconsin, or Pennsylvania I'd probably kill myself.
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Feb 23, 2018 23:07
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:You realize that "Yells the best about the thing I hate the most" is literally the reason Donald Trump won the Republican primary, right? You are cognitively aware of that similarity in your candidate selection process for President of the United States. trumps going to win in 2020 when the dems pick neolib shits based on the recommendations of consultants running numbers and you still wont learn
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Feb 23, 2018 23:07
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:drat if I voted for Jill Stein and I lived in Michigan, Wisconsin, or Pennsylvania I'd probably kill myself. I think goetta lives in ohio and voted stein because he was very very broke brained
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Feb 23, 2018 23:07
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Dairy Days posted:trumps going to win in 2020 when the dems pick neolib shits based on the recommendations of consultants running numbers and you still wont learn Is Kirsten Gillibrand a neoliberal?
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Feb 23, 2018 23:07
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Anyway I'm too thoughtful & pragmatic to write off anyone due to age at this point, unlike our close-minded and bigoted OP.
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Feb 23, 2018 23:08
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:drat if I voted for Jill Stein and I lived in Michigan, Wisconsin, or Pennsylvania I'd probably kill myself. ii voted for jill stein in michigan, wisconsin AND pennsylvania and ive not only NOT killed myself, ive enjoyed life
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Feb 23, 2018 23:08
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anime was right posted:how to not let old be a problem "i will choose a vp that's young and shares my views, cya nerds" what happens if the president is assassinated by the Real Mastermind, the Speaker of the House Paul "Legs" Ryan?
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Feb 23, 2018 23:08
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:Is Kirsten Gillibrand a neoliberal? depends on the polling
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Feb 23, 2018 23:09
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Nichael posted:It's not really an age issue as much as it is a white people issue and a rich people issue.
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Feb 23, 2018 23:09
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No one has ever won the presidency on the strength of their voting record. It's always been down to charm or force of personality.
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Feb 23, 2018 23:09
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logikv9 posted:what happens if the president is assassinated by the Real Mastermind, the Speaker of the House Paul "Legs" Ryan? Speaker of the Horse Mike Pence
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Feb 23, 2018 23:10
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:Is Kirsten Gillibrand a neoliberal? she made her name pre politics as a defense attorney for cigarette companies and won her first elections on no amnesty for immigrants and austerity what do you think
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Feb 23, 2018 23:10
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:i do appreciate that this thread just initiated like 2 years of cspams dem primary fighting though. we can alraedy see the sides it's gonna be the same poo poo lol
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Feb 23, 2018 23:10
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:Is Kirsten Gillibrand a neoliberal? You tell us man, go check her voting record. Don't ignore the blue dog years.
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Feb 23, 2018 23:11
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2016 will never end and i'm glad of it
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Feb 23, 2018 23:11
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docbeard posted:No one has ever won the presidency on the strength of their voting record. It's always been down to charm or force of personality. well that and mindless dissatisfaction at the status quo expressing itself. its why the same person can vote for obama and then trump
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Feb 23, 2018 23:11
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:well that and mindless dissatisfaction at the status quo expressing itself. its why the same person can vote for obama and then trump *Licks finger, holds up 2 wind* Ahhh, the writhing mass of frothing, desperate bigots is blowing slightly to the left this year, towards Mussoloni rather than Hitler.
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Feb 23, 2018 23:14
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Disenfranchise everyone who can only name one person they'd vote for in 2020.
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Feb 23, 2018 23:16
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:Disenfranchise everyone who can only name one person they'd vote for in 2020. you can only vote for one person for president thats how it works in america op
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Feb 23, 2018 23:16
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:You realize that "Yells the best about the thing I hate the most" is literally the reason Donald Trump won the Republican primary, right? You are cognitively aware of that similarity in your candidate selection process for President of the United States. a blithering idiot winning a primary and then a general election because he was the only candidate in either field* that actually bothered advocating policies that appealed to voters by (at least superficially) addressing their material and emotional concerns rather than getting high huffing the bottled farts of movement conservatism/neoliberal economics would seem to be far more of an indictment of the broader political establishment than the blithering idiot himself, or anyone who would follow in his footsteps by similarly appealing to voters (since they don't have to be blithering idiots themselves) *bernie having been eliminated prior to the general election
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Feb 23, 2018 23:18
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Breaking News SHook Nate Declares that GIllibrand Stock Up 23%! Good Smart Dems Must Put Her At Least 1st Or Second On Their Official List Or Miss Out On Big Opportunity To Re-elect The Retard President!
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Feb 23, 2018 23:22
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LGD posted:a blithering idiot winning a primary and then a general election because he was the only candidate in either field* that actually bothered advocating policies that appealed to voters by (at least superficially) addressing their material and emotional concerns rather than getting high huffing the bottled farts of movement conservatism/neoliberal economics would seem to be far more of an indictment of the broader political establishment than the blithering idiot himself, or anyone who would follow in his footsteps by similarly appealing to voters (since they don't have to be blithering idiots themselves) I guess my problem is with the insane idea that it can only be bernie in 2020 to fulfill the roll of "democrat who gets angry and tells people they're gonna stop being hosed over"
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:I guess my problem is with the insane idea that it can only be bernie in 2020 to fulfill the roll of "democrat who gets angry and tells people they're gonna stop being hosed over" show me a democrat who does that better and ill vote for him
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