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In the same vein on how Now, that being said, I'd prefer not to see yet another bad gimmick race. I just looked at the ingame options, and boy howdy is that a lot of races. We're now at magic number 27! Half of those are extreme gimmicks, and a third of them I still mentally classify as the brand new "Race of the day" to be forgotten by the next release. I mean, why do we still have felids again? I honestly wouldn't mind to see a massacre of all the weird ones, and pare them back so that the remaining oddball features are a bit more subtle, ie tengu and ogres.
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RPATDO_LAMD posted:Dwarves are naturally alcoholics. By analogy to the Deep Dwarf self-healing thing, give the mountain dwarves an activatable abiliity to pull from their bottomless supply of stashed-away booze and cause a self-ambrosia effect. I don't know what kind of cost it would need to be balanced though. Clearly Mountain Dwarves would drink Mountain Dew. 
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Tollymain posted:let's put some stuff back in before we start pulling stuff out Oh yea, Gonncrawl looks like it's going to be all about cramming back in cut content, or at least at first. Which is cool. However I'm still holding a torch for some wizard with experience, a strong vision, and far too much free time to come and do some sort of amazing overhaul, cutting and adding in one fair blow, and leaving us with things like a carefully curated pantheon of gods (complete with chaos/law/evil/good faction pettiness) and such. Never gonna happen, but a man can dream!
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be the change you want to see in the world
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Please lets not forget about the actually important stuff like fountain quaffing.
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Remove murderholes.
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Serephina posted:In the same vein on how or we could just leave them in so people can have fun playing whatever weird style they want
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Amen, Praise be to the esoteric rabbit holes of wildly differing playing styles.
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The only gimmick races I don't like are Deep Dwarf (broken in a way that probably can't be fixed), Vampire (fiddly for reasons that are more related to flavor than gameplay), and Human (not having any gimmicks is a boring gimmick).
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I still plan on making a pull request for fountain quaffing, it's finnicky since it's a bunch of old commits and what potions actually exist has changed in the mean time so the probabilities need to be brainstormed. Feel free to beat me to doing this if you're so inclined EDIT: Nvm, it was actually pretty easy https://github.com/Floodkiller/crawl/pull/21 Patashu fucked around with this message at 04:33 on Mar 5, 2018 |
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Mar 4, 2018 21:50
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Tollymain posted:so are we giving felids boots now Only a unique called kitten mittens that gives them ponderous.
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Okay, quick compilation of Pakellas/rod discussion: Rods:
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Let me know if I missed anything or you have more input (I'll do a final scroll through everything to pick up any points for previous discussions as well). I'll come up with the last set of discussion points either tomorrow or Tuesday, then I'll start putting polls together after that finishes. Floodkiller fucked around with this message at 23:38 on Mar 4, 2018 |
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In the scenario where he gifts wand charges, there's no need for a conduct to prevent cheesing it. He picks a wand type without reference to your inventory. If you have one of those wands, he adds a few charges. If not, he gifts a wand with a few charges to you.
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cheetah7071 posted:In the scenario where he gifts wand charges, there's no need for a conduct to prevent cheesing it. He picks a wand type without reference to your inventory. If you have one of those wands, he adds a few charges. If not, he gifts a wand with a few charges to you. Edit: Nevermind I can't read. Noting that down.
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New Hellcrawl update, changelog here: https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=21527&start=750 This stuck out to me as being a cool idea to try: 'WJC passively reduces total AC by a percentage (scaling with piety) in exchange for a passive slaying bonus (also scaling with piety).'
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Patashu posted:New Hellcrawl update, changelog here: "Sojobo is male again."  How many existing uniques have they made female now, and why not just make a new unique? e: I thought it was gradual but it was all just this one commit. Very important to the game. lizardhunt fucked around with this message at 04:16 on Mar 5, 2018 |
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jerkstoresup posted:"Sojobo is male again." why, because absolutely every unique must have no overlap with any other unique, just like the races
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i thought it was because they realized they had a fairly large imbalance gender-wise with uniques and moved to remedy it
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How many existing uniques have they made male now? Why not just make a new unique?
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i mean they could have made a bunch of new uniques to balance it out but that would be more work and time and im assuming they had other priorities to work on
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quote:+8 plate armour of Ustink {rElec rPois rN+ SInv}
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Let me guess, found it while playing a Draconian?
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Serephina posted:In the same vein on how if innate placid magic already favors the use of some schools and penalizes the use of others, why add the further burden of negative aptitudes to the penalized schools? the niche is already carved out
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Samog posted:if innate placid magic already favors the use of some schools and penalizes the use of others, why add the further burden of negative aptitudes to the penalized schools? the niche is already carved out
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Tollymain posted:i mean they could have made a bunch of new uniques to balance it out but that would be more work and time and im assuming they had other priorities to work on So it's enough of a priority to make some arbitrary text changes, but not enough to actually make content with thought put into it. Somehow that seems more insulting than being under-represented in the first place, but I've never really understood where the social justice types draw the line between blatant pandering and "real" change. I'm not actually sure there's a lower bound on how far you have to go before they actually see it as pandering.
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Zaodai posted:So it's enough of a priority to make some arbitrary text changes, but not enough to actually make content with thought put into it. Somehow that seems more insulting than being under-represented in the first place, but I've never really understood where the social justice types draw the line between blatant pandering and "real" change. I'm not actually sure there's a lower bound on how far you have to go before they actually see it as pandering.
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https://github.com/Floodkiller/crawl/pulls Made pull requests for fountain quaffing and return of Repel Missiles spell. In the mean time, it looks like nubletcrawler opened pull requests for Virulence (a spell that gives enemies -rPois) and returning wands of heal wounds. The next thing I will code is Time Stop (level 9 hexes spell). Should be fun!
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Zaodai posted:So it's enough of a priority to make some arbitrary text changes, but not enough to actually make content with thought put into it. Somehow that seems more insulting than being under-represented in the first place, but I've never really understood where the social justice types draw the line between blatant pandering and "real" change. I'm not actually sure there's a lower bound on how far you have to go before they actually see it as pandering. im sure its very important to you that grinder is a dude or w/e and you aren't just seizing an opportunity to complain about them sjws
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Patashu posted:https://github.com/Floodkiller/crawl/pulls id honestly rather avoid bringing rmissiles back as a spell, i think the current way of handling it is a lot better than it being a must-learn for all characters whats time stop do?
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I actually don't want cWounds wands back. We already have the Harp ( ) and the Shard of Zot, so now, cWounds and Tele wands are just kinda OP. Having them as evokables actually gives most builds a reason to train the skill.
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the big bad enemies guarding the goal are still giant flaming balls so the game is still more than masculine enough, imo
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gotta keep from engaging more than one at once cause if the balls touch its gay
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FR: Change the Orb Guardians sprite to be shaped like a vagina.
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They used to be levitating magic fetuses Zot:5 is still shaped like a womb too
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What attribute increases should I choose for an octopode assassin? I have basically no experience playing non-tanks, so I'm trying this instead Also, what god should I choose? icantfindaname fucked around with this message at 11:35 on Mar 5, 2018 |
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Tollymain posted:id honestly rather avoid bringing rmissiles back as a spell, i think the current way of handling it is a lot better than it being a must-learn for all characters Yeah I'm not super hot on it either, but it was on the request list and easy to do. quote:whats time stop do? Level 9 hexes, gives you a few (currently 1+spellpower/50) free turns then exhausts you, it also ends early if you blink or teleport. If it's too broken I'll try reducing the free turn amount, giving it more drawbacks or making it give you 0.1 turns (meaning other things can react) instead of 0.0 turns. I'd love for every spell school in Gooncrawl to have a capstone spell. EDIT: Time Stop is working Patashu fucked around with this message at 12:16 on Mar 5, 2018 |
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icantfindaname posted:What attribute increases should I choose for an octopode assassin? I have basically no experience playing non-tanks, so I'm trying this instead do you want to cast spells? if so, intelligence. if you don't really care, dexterity. strength doesn't have a lot of use for species who can't wear armour, far as i know. for god choice it all comes down to what you want to do as well, but i recommend taking one that gives you a lot of power independent of your own character's strength (not the stat) to carry you through the early/mid game until you're stable-ish
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PMush Perfect posted:How many existing uniques have they made male now? Why not just make a new unique? I am not trying to start a fight or pick either side in this, because I could honestly care less what sex a monster is when I The reason Hellmonk likely changed Sojobo back to male in Hellcrawl (and none of the others like Grinder or Aizul) is because Sojobo is basically a one-to-one with the Japanese mythological figure of the same name, and is identified as "king of the tengus". If you are into mythology and prefer representations to be as close to exact as possible, it might irk you. To flip it around: it's like somebody made a game using Greek deities, added seven of the females and three of the males, and then made Athena and Aphrodite male to balance the sexes out (because they didn't have the time/want/desire to put in the extra work to balance it properly by adding new male deities). Tollymain posted:i mean they could have made a bunch of new uniques to balance it out but that would be more work and time and im assuming they had other priorities to work on Plenty of opportunity in Gooncrawl for this, though! Floodkiller fucked around with this message at 13:39 on Mar 5, 2018 |
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