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TulliusCicero posted:so with this and the Analytica news, how uh, deeply is facebook involved in all this poo poo? Is Zuck hosed? Zuck's dreams of the presidency are over; Facebook will be called in front of Congress and probably raked over the coals by everybody but absolute Trump zealots. Facebook's entire business model is being exposed as really bad and they've recently stopped growing their user base, so while it's not over, Facebook is going to spend a lot of money trying to unfuck itself and get killed in the press from here to eternity.
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Technology is changing how we commit crimes so quickly that this generation's criminals haven't even had the time to learn the basics. Like not admitting to their crimes.
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enraged_camel posted:I didn't find the Cambridge Analytica stuff to be very damning. I'm no lawyer, but all CA staff recorded in the video are acting in a sales capacity, and salespeople embellish and lie all the loving time. So unless Channel 4 can follow up with hard evidence (internal emails, contracts that detail methods used, etc.) then the whole thing is academically interesting at best. The dude bragging about arranging hookers to blackmail was the CEO.
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KickerOfMice posted:And to respond to this specifically, Emma G and David Hogg were on one of the morning shows today- Yeah, they and some of the other kid leaders including Cameron H were on 60 Minutes last night. They said a bunch of interesting stuff including that they've established what's essentially a secret headquarters because they're worried that they could become the targets of violence. David also said that his father owns a gun and it makes him feel safer, which really undermines the whole "they hate the second amendment/want to take away all your guns" bullshit attack the right likes to make. But as Emma said they can't find an angle to attack their ideas so all they're left with are attacks on the kids and condescending that they should be in school and respect their elders.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:If Mueller manages to take down two billionaires for the price of one, that's just an extra reason to celebrate alleged billionares, at least
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RevKrule posted:When you have your CEO saying he can get underage girls that he'll use to entrap your political opponents, that's a little beyond general salesperson embellishments. I don't think he said underage girls (I rewatched that segment to make sure).
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enraged_camel posted:I didn't find the Cambridge Analytica stuff to be very damning. I'm no lawyer, but all CA staff recorded in the video are acting in a sales capacity, and salespeople embellish and lie all the loving time. So unless Channel 4 can follow up with hard evidence (internal emails, contracts that detail methods used, etc.) then the whole thing is academically interesting at best. The British police rushed a warrant so they can search their poo poo now. I think something big is going down.
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Xae posted:The dude bragging about arranging hookers to blackmail was the CEO. Yes, I know. And one of the main jobs of a CEO is to bring in high-profile clients, i.e. sales. TulliusCicero posted:The British police rushed a warrant so they can search their poo poo now. I think something big is going down. I hope so. Like I said, I hope they burn.
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What is Looks like when a person follows the advice of their PR / crisis management team and lawyers, as opposed to melting down on twitter
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:If Mueller manages to take down two billionaires for the price of one, that's just an extra reason to celebrate More than anyone the two people I hope go down in all this are Jack Dorsey and Biz Stone. Those two fucks need to burn for Twitter's role in this madness.
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Xae posted:Facebook's people were almost certainly there before the piece aired. Why would they fly someone in from California? It doesn't take long to get from Facebook's London office to CA's office.
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enraged_camel posted:I don't think he said underage girls (I rewatched that segment to make sure). sending prostitutes to your political opponents to film and blackmail them is illegal even if they're not underage, hth
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It's bizarre to me that they've literally stuffed ballots. Doesn't Putin pretty much have the whole vertical administration in his pocket? They could just add ballots after the fact.
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Taffer posted:sending prostitutes to your political opponents to film and blackmail them is illegal even if they're not underage, hth
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Stickman posted:It's bizarre to me that they've literally stuffed ballots. Doesn't Putin pretty much have the whole vertical administration in his pocket? They could just add ballots after the fact. These videos just show that vote-stuffing happened, which Putin can blame on the opposition and use to fuel "additional voter security" to increase police state powers. Basically Kris Kobach's wet dream.
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Fix News is basically running with “CA isn’t a big story ““ because “Obama did the same thing in 2012.” They’re shook.
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Fun fact, Russian bots are starting the push of "these gifs were taken in competitive districts in the US during the 2016 election/Alabama/Pennsylvania.". In case you were wondering why it's so blatant. Get that video feed for the US primaries.
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Rookersh posted:Fun fact, Russian bots are starting the push of "these gifs were taken in competitive districts in the US during the 2016 election/Alabama/Pennsylvania.". the March 18th US elections? That had cyrillic writing on the door?
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Rookersh posted:Fun fact, Russian bots are starting the push of "these gifs were taken in competitive districts in the US during the 2016 election/Alabama/Pennsylvania.". Must have been a cold winter in Alabama for them to bust out the ushankas.
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Stickman posted:It's bizarre to me that they've literally stuffed ballots. Doesn't Putin pretty much have the whole vertical administration in his pocket? They could just add ballots after the fact. Alternatively, they want people to see. They want to flaunt the fact that they're powerful enough to do whatever the hell they feel like. It's demoralizing.
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Stickman posted:Must have been a cold winter in Alabama for them to bust out the ushankas. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/voter-fraud-in-2016-primary/ https://us-east-1.tchyn.io/snopes-production/uploads/2016/10/democrat-voter-fraud-proof-2016.jpg?resize=830%2C449 They already started doing it with gifs that had the Russian flag in them. Didn't stop a whole bunch of MAGAchuds from taking it as the gospel. You want to muddle 2018 elections, what better way to do it then with stuff like this. Like yeah it's silly, but they've already attempted it once and it worked pretty well. It apparently blew up Freep for awhile. What makes you think they wouldn't do a round 2 for these clutch elections like Lamb/Doug, or anything in 2018.
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There Bias Two posted:Alternatively, they want people to see. They want to flaunt the fact that they're powerful enough to do whatever the hell they feel like. It's demoralizing. That seems ... sadly plausible.
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I'd like to believe that at least in some cases it's a safe way to demonstrate just how illegitimate the election was.
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KickerOfMice posted:And to respond to this specifically, Emma G and David Hogg were on one of the morning shows today- Emma is going to be the second female president of the United States. the first will be Tulsi Gabbard when Bernie resigns for health reasons in 2022, because I made a monkey's paw wish
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Slugworth posted:Literally the entire function of advertising is to influence behavior? That is its purpose,sure, but calling it voter suppression implies something forced upon the ad viewers.
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Why is there no Vox explainer on this CA stuff? Is there anyone else who has a simple explanation to tell me why to be outraged?
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Katt posted:When I got my license I was taught to maintain a speed so I could break in time for anything that might appear just outside my field of vision. So was I, as it happens, but my driving school was exceptional. Part of how I know they were exceptional is that they failed me on my first driving test and made me do more practice. 
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Politically, from her point of view it may be better if Trump tried to fire Mueller. It won’t stop the investigation, and will absolutely cause massive protests and increase the size of the blue wave.
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Bit slow on the uptake lads: https://twitter.com/TrueFactsStated/status/975862833207496705
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evilweasel posted:alleged billionares, at least Zuck is a real billionaire. Donnie has a bunch of russian paper with big numbers.
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Hellblazer187 posted:Why is there no Vox explainer on this CA stuff? Is there anyone else who has a simple explanation to tell me why to be outraged? Instead of waiting to be spoonfed with easy-digested pap that may give you the mistaken idea that everything must be made simple, why don't you just sit down and read an adult newspaper and interact with the world like an engaged citizen? https://www.theguardian.com/news/series/cambridge-analytica-files
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Hellblazer187 posted:Why is there no Vox explainer on this CA stuff? Is there anyone else who has a simple explanation to tell me why to be outraged? Um... big analytical firm uses data to influence elections, breaks a poo poo ton of campaign finance laws (such as disclosure) and is tied to not only Trump and the GOP but also Brexit.
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Hollismason posted:I was going to say the EU doesn't gently caress around when it comes to fines but then I realized they're not in the EU anymore this has come up before, they still are
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GreyjoyBastard posted:So was I, as it happens, but my driving school was exceptional. Where I am there was a death three days ago because a bicyclist fell over right in front of a car. I guess that driver's driving instructor needs to turn in their driving instructor's license now?
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Blurred posted:Bit slow on the uptake lads: First Ukranian hookers, then the prospect of Trump's dick pics. Man, what a day...
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Blurred posted:Bit slow on the uptake lads: I can already hear the nukes fly.
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Blurred posted:Bit slow on the uptake lads: Stormy is the real victim in all of this.
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