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have books turn into ammo for a trog nuke power on pickup
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Mar 25, 2018 04:35
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"What book do you choose to forget?" ... "Choose target" ... "The spellbook conflagrates as it leaves your hands!"
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Mar 25, 2018 04:39
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just have trog set every spellcaster who comes into line of sight on fire
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Mar 25, 2018 04:52
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i can't read this
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Mar 25, 2018 05:22
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fr: gorgon species that has a petrify power but poor stabbing stats. it could also be a monster
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Mar 25, 2018 09:39
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fr: cockatrice corpse launcher
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Mar 25, 2018 10:33
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fr: cock launcher
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Mar 25, 2018 10:43
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fr: cock
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Mar 25, 2018 11:39
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Tollymain posted:hey i wasnt kidding we absolutely should be jacking the new spell library feature from trunk I can't even play anything but trunk now because of it Floodkiller posted:I'll be putting it and other major commits from trunk together with the feature request/pull request survey. One issue I will point out with it is that Trog book burning and book amnesia goes away temporarily if it is implemented (until I or someone else figures out what's needed to modify the library system to put it back in). They can both afford it especially since when you amnesia a spell, it still stays in your library.
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Mar 25, 2018 12:03
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Dropping magic books and setting on fire with the power of Trogs hatred of magic and burning up your enemies was super cool and fun and gave awesome flavor to trog worship. So makes sense it doesn't exist any more.
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Mar 25, 2018 12:49
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For Trog just replace all books with a new regular item called "Heretical Texts", use as ammo for the ability. Should be trivial to implement?
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Mar 25, 2018 13:46
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Well really there's no reason the book has to be consumed for it to add the spells to your library, right?
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Mar 25, 2018 14:20
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baby delivery truck posted:They can both afford it especially since when you amnesia a spell, it still stays in your library. why worry about whether they can "afford it"? floodkiller's point is that he'll be readding those things this is the part of the modern vanilla crawl dev approach i don't understand. complete removal of something flavorful because it conflicts with another change being made, instead of redesigning the flavorful thing in order to preserve it. trog book-burning may not be an integral part of trog mechanically, but it sure is important for his theme
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Mar 25, 2018 14:45
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baby delivery truck posted:Well really there's no reason the book has to be consumed for it to add the spells to your library, right?
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Mar 25, 2018 17:48
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Or just prevent troglodytes from automatically reading spellbooks and leave it the same for everyone else.
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Mar 25, 2018 18:03
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Trog should just make spellbooks burst up in flames on sight.
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Mar 25, 2018 18:29
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Firestorm centered on the spellbook! 
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Mar 25, 2018 18:33
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weirdly chilly pussy posted:Trog should just make spellbooks burst up in flames on sight.
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Mar 25, 2018 18:36
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Irony Be My Shield posted:This is good flavour wise but makes it pretty pointless to abandon Trog. Tell that to Ru.
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Mar 25, 2018 18:43
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When worshiping trog, all spell books are converted to a new item "heretical texts" and can be used to blaze up like usual. 420 worship trog everyday Additional trog talk: what about a new power that let's trog burn up all the corpses in your line of sight.
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Mar 25, 2018 18:59
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That's basically Corpse Rot in god power form. And the first rule of Crawl Dev is No Overlapping Effects.
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Mar 25, 2018 19:05
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RPATDO_LAMD posted:Or just prevent troglodytes from automatically reading spellbooks and leave it the same for everyone else. Sage Grimm posted:That's basically Corpse Rot in god power form. And the first rule of Crawl Dev is No Overlapping Effects.
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Mar 25, 2018 19:07
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Maybe it could scale up depending of how many corpses are in line of sight. If your standing on a pile of fallen enemies it explodes them into fireballs. I guess Trog would need to protect you from fire or something during g the conflagration....
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Mar 25, 2018 19:13
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trog sets enemies on fire w a sticky flame-like effect whenever they cast spells
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Mar 25, 2018 20:13
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How about Trog lets you sacrifice a spell out of your library to place a flame cloud one tile from you?
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Mar 26, 2018 03:39
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trog should not get a large buff that means the player gets way more flame clouds uses and requires less turns to place them
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Mar 26, 2018 04:03
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Why not just make it so books don't get added to your library until you read them in your inventory, at which point you presumably eat them? I mean, yeah, it's one more click/two more keystrokes for people who actually cast spells, but if it's that important that Trog keep his flavor power that seems like the simplest solution. e: which is something that was suggested like 5 posts ago, reading is hard
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Mar 26, 2018 04:12
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I am of the opinion it's worth sacrificing book burning on the altar of a more convenient user interface for most characters. I rarely if ever used book burning strategically. It's a fun piece of flavor but it's not the hill I would die on, and you're actually getting something in exchange for the sacrifice.
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Mar 26, 2018 05:34
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Eela6 posted:I am of the opinion it's worth sacrificing book burning on the altar of a more convenient user interface for most characters. I rarely if ever used book burning strategically. It's a fun piece of flavor but it's not the hill I would die on, and you're actually getting something in exchange for the sacrifice. I don't really get this either. The game is actually better than ever, but since the devs are Bad every new change must be Bad as well.
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Mar 26, 2018 06:46
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Is Panedomium generally considered to be easier than Hell? My last tragic run I did all of Hell easily then died immediately in Pan, but the wiki says you should do Pan before Hell?
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Mar 27, 2018 00:01
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icantfindaname posted:Is Panedomium generally considered to be easier than Hell? My last tragic run I did all of Hell easily then died immediately in Pan, but the wiki says you should do Pan before Hell? Generally, but Pan has vaults that rival or exceed Hells in difficulty, such as Hellion Island and Discotech.
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Mar 27, 2018 00:07
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You can also run into generation schemes that just throw way too many pit fiends or whatever at you. It's certainly possible to splat in vanilla pan levels.
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Mar 27, 2018 01:41
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i always do pan first but that's because hell takes a mental toll on you too
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Mar 27, 2018 02:26
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I never more than 3-rune because
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Mar 27, 2018 02:34
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icantfindaname posted:Is Panedomium generally considered to be easier than Hell? My last tragic run I did all of Hell easily then died immediately in Pan, but the wiki says you should do Pan before Hell? It's worth noting that in Pan you have to be prepared for any of the four panlords/rune levels at any time, whereas for Hell you only need to be prepared for one branch. I'm no expert but I'd guess hell becomes more appealing if you are having issues with one or more resists.
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Mar 27, 2018 04:43
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#SpEn_Reasons:code:#hexes_reasons: code:girl dick energy fucked around with this message at 05:32 on Mar 27, 2018 |
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Mar 27, 2018 05:25
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I tend to find Hell easier than Pan if only because you can usually spec yourself to deal with the dangers of a given branch before diving in
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Mar 27, 2018 05:49
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you know how ranged reform comes up now and again but it never seems to take? i've got a suggestion, though it's really, really gamey. the basic gist of it is that at ammo is dropped in bundles. bundles give the player the ability to fire a single ranged attack per bundle in a fight and are never consumed. bundles aren't exactly super common on the floor, although at least one of each kind must drop on the first 1-3 floors and you gain twice the benefits from the first bundle you pick up. ranged attacks are refreshed after the player has been at baseline tension for a given period of time. the math on drops is set up to give characters that don't worship ammo-gifting gods enough attacks per combat for ranged skills to be useful but not enough to build a character around, unless you acquirement ammo. also guarantee an acquirement scroll somewhere between d1-6 imo) this will, of course, effectively reduce the amount of ranged weapon use possible per game, however this is honestly needed at the moment because ammo gifting is virtually irrelevant in the face of the current number of ammo drops in the game, like seriously (ok admittedly throwing benefits significantly from ammo gifts at the moment but i think that's more to do with large variance in throwable ammo effectiveness i.e. javelins and large rocks can be hard to find) furthermore, ----- Breskole the Swift Breskole is a god of the hunt, worshipped by those who wish to provide, to murder, or to exterminate. Worshippers are gifted with light feet under a practical load, plentiful resources, and the temporary capacity to move with immense speed. Breskole is pleased by the search for ever greater prey. ----- Followers of Breskole are granted greater prowess in light armours [read: non-heavy armours behave as though they have 0 ER] and plentiful tools for the hunt [ammo bundle and consumables gifting]. Later, they may evade the senses of complacent prey while in light armours [character gains a buff to stealth proportional to each monster in sight] and eventually they may temporarily be endowed with Breskole's own swiftness. Breskole likes it when you explore and when you take glorious trophies. [read: kill extremely dangerous monsters] e: this is gonna be at the very bottom of the page lmao ee: unrelated to all of this, i've noticed myself missing a bunch of timed vaults recently and i think im not getting that black-screen force more message anymore. whats up with that Tollymain fucked around with this message at 12:19 on Mar 27, 2018 |
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Mar 27, 2018 11:57
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RPATDO_LAMD posted:It's worth noting that in Pan you have to be prepared for any of the four panlords/rune levels at any time, whereas for Hell you only need to be prepared for one branch. I'm no expert but I'd guess hell becomes more appealing if you are having issues with one or more resists. Another big problem with Pan is that your spawn point is completely random AFAIK, so you can drop into an ambush with Cerebov and 3 brimstone fiends if you're unlucky. Sure, you get to rest in Pan once you find a safe spot thanks to no Hell effects, but that doesn't mean much if you're crashing a party at Hellion island. Hell effects aside, all Hell levels at least have some structure to them in terms of where you enter and exit (specially the last floor), so the worst that can happen is that you'll walk into a "scripted" ambush like some of Gehenna's branch endings which are easier to survive than a bad spawn point in Pan.
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