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Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

Bergeron missed too many games.

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Lost Season
Nov 28, 2013

Aphrodite posted:

Bergeron missed too many games.

He was getting some buzz as an MVP candidate before he was injured, though, so I don't know that the games missed will ding him all that much

Jordan7hm
Feb 17, 2011




Lipstick Apathy
Couturier put up serious numbers this year and has that defensive specialist reputation. But yeah it'll probably be Kopitar. Or hell, even just Bergeron inertia.

I hope the Norris goes to Hedman, but gotta wonder what the impact would be on Doughty's contract negotiations if it goes to him.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

Kopitar was better than Couturier so that’s fine.

Lost Season posted:

He was getting some buzz as an MVP candidate before he was injured, though, so I don't know that the games missed will ding him all that much

He doesn’t really have anything that jumps out ahead of the other two, so the potential points lost by missing those games (Bruins went 9-2-2 without him, that was a lot of winning to get points in on) is what’s dinging him.

Duckman2008
Jan 6, 2010

TFW you see Flyers goaltending.
Grimey Drawer
NHL tends to make safe picks, so:

Kopitar for Selke
PK for Norris
Rinne for Vezina.

ThinkTank
Oct 23, 2007

PK is the opposite of safe pick for the Norris. That poo poo would get debated for years. It'll go to Doughty, or if the award voters don't want to give two big ones to Kings players, Hedman. Subban will finish a distant 3rd.

Blackbelt Bobman
Jul 17, 2004

I don't need friends! I've been
manipulatin' you since the start!
All so I can something,
something X-Blade!


Subban wasn't exceptional this year and tbh I'm surprised he got nominated.

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

ACAB

Rinne definitely gets the Vezina. Pk is cool and Hedman probably deserves the Norris, so it'll go to doughty. Plus, he was better this year than 15-16 when he won't it.

Thufir
May 19, 2004

"The fucking Mayans were right."

bizarre deformity posted:

Subban wasn't exceptional this year and tbh I'm surprised he got nominated.

I think he was a top 10 maybe top 5 D this year but probably not top 3.

stab
Feb 12, 2003

To you from failing hands we throw the torch, be yours to hold it high
Bill Peters just noped the gently caress out of Carolina

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

stab posted:

Bill Peters just noped the gently caress out of Carolina

I've seen some rumors the Rangers are gonna go after him?

E: never mind, looks like Calgary is hot for him.

Matt Zerella fucked around with this message at 17:01 on Apr 20, 2018

Thufir
May 19, 2004

"The fucking Mayans were right."

stab posted:

Bill Peters just noped the gently caress out of Carolina

Seems like he's gonna get hired by Calgary?

https://www.canescountry.com/2018/4...tzan-tom-dundon

ThinkTank
Oct 23, 2007

That new Canes owner is running a crash course on how to alienate all of your most valuable employees.

Ginette Reno
Nov 18, 2006

How Doers get more done
Fun Shoe

ThinkTank posted:

That new Canes owner is running a crash course on how to alienate all of your most valuable employees.

Not sure how valuable Peters is given 4 straight years of missing the playoffs. He should have been fired.

Mind_Taker
May 7, 2007



Peters is a weird case because it seems like he runs a decent enough possession system but at some point you have to translate that possession into goals.

ThinkTank
Oct 23, 2007

Ginette Reno posted:

Not sure how valuable Peters is given 4 straight years of missing the playoffs. He should have been fired.

The team now doesn't have a GM or coach, and the players publicly expressed bewilderment that the owner conducted exit interviews with them. He's trying to hire replacements for pennies on the dollar. In a small industry with a relatively stable collection of high level employees, being known as the cheap rear end who interferes is a surefire way to end up with a group of third rate executives under your employ.

Ginette Reno
Nov 18, 2006

How Doers get more done
Fun Shoe

ThinkTank posted:

The team now doesn't have a GM or coach, and the players publicly expressed bewilderment that the owner conducted exit interviews with them. He's trying to hire replacements for pennies on the dollar. In a small industry with a relatively stable collection of high level employees, being known as the cheap rear end who interferes is a surefire way to end up with a group of third rate executives under your employ.

I agree that the owner is making a hilarious mess of things I'm just saying Peters did miss 4 years in a row and that's enough/should be enough to get any coach fired.

Nissin Cup Nudist
Sep 3, 2011

Sleep with one eye open

We're off to Gritty Gritty land




Carolina biggest problem is they have sub-.900 goaltending

Koopa Kid
Aug 21, 2007



Also possessing the puck doesn’t help that much if your goaltending can’t even crack .910. Edit: yeah exactly ^

Scoring talent is a real thing. The Leafs PP% under Babcock went from 29th in his first year to being 2nd two years running. System and shot generation were basically the same, but it turns out Marner and Matthews are a lot better at scoring than PA Parenteau and Brad Boyes.

ThinkTank
Oct 23, 2007

Nissin Cup Nudist posted:

Carolina biggest problem is they have sub-.900 goaltending

That's likely to be an issue when you consistently spend $10-15M below the cap. I'm not sure how much of the Canes lack of success you can pin on Peters. He's gotten a hell of a lot out of some not very good players. Derek Ryan has been a 40 point guy under his tutelage.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

That's probably not actually true, Brad Boyes is just old as poo poo now.

Koopa Kid
Aug 21, 2007



Aphrodite posted:

That's probably not actually true, Brad Boyes is just old as poo poo now.

Obviously the 2016 version of Brad Boyes, who I can assure you was not the 2008 Brad Boyes

Misanthrope
Jun 10, 2001

QUACK QUACK QUACK QUACK QUACK
Fired a coach with great possession numbers and horrible shooting percentage to hire a coach with great possession numbers and horrible shooting percentage.

Can't wait for next years team to win the corsi cup and miss the playoffs again.

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!

Misanthrope posted:

Fired a coach with great possession numbers and horrible shooting percentage to hire a coach with great possession numbers and horrible shooting percentage.

Can't wait for next years team to win the corsi cup and miss the playoffs again.

:hfive:

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

it's impressive and also very shameful that boyd gordon only ever topped out at 12th in the selke voting. the byng is stupid but the selke really should be the best players at their niche thing instead of another mvp lite trophy

T-Bone
Sep 14, 2004

jakes did this?
Apparently Quick might play for the US at the WC? They could have their best team in years.

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

Misanthrope posted:

Fired a coach with great possession numbers and horrible shooting percentage to hire a coach with great possession numbers and horrible shooting percentage.

Can't wait for next years team to win the corsi cup and miss the playoffs again.

AV is available if you want the opposite?

Levitate
Sep 30, 2005

randy newman voice

YOU'VE GOT A LAFRENIÈRE IN ME

Mind_Taker posted:

Peters is a weird case because it seems like he runs a decent enough possession system but at some point you have to translate that possession into goals.

He's never had the talent

I believe they also create a high number of high danger area chances, but they honestly just do not have the talent up front to score enough.

I'd probably be happy with him on the Rangers as he worked with a young team in Carolina and probably got the most out of them with what he had to work with, but yeah sounds like Calgary's all up in that

Furnaceface
Oct 21, 2004




T-Bone posted:

Apparently Quick might play for the US at the WC? They could have their best team in years.

If Columbus drops the next 2 Torts will once again be available to ruin it for you guys. :v:

T-Bone
Sep 14, 2004

jakes did this?

Furnaceface posted:

If Columbus drops the next 2 Torts will once again be available to ruin it for you guys. :v:

They already have Blashill to ruin it.

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

THE LIAR
Did somebody say Captain Abdelkader?!

yellowcar
Feb 14, 2010

Paul Byron undergoes shoulder surgery, will be out 6 months. :rip:

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyyIb6nthdk

FBS
Apr 27, 2015

The real fun of living wisely is that you get to be smug about it.

stab
Feb 12, 2003

To you from failing hands we throw the torch, be yours to hold it high
Hey wild fans welcome to the party just make sure you dont go on the lake after drinking ok

Precambrian Video Games
Aug 19, 2002



What, no more 18-19 Flyers rosters and line combos?

Cartoon Man
Jan 31, 2004




Cartoon Man fucked around with this message at 14:40 on Apr 21, 2018

T-Bone
Sep 14, 2004

jakes did this?

quote:

Another team eyeing overseas talent this off-season is one whose off-season has yet to begin. Russian news source Sport-Express reports that SKA St. Petersburg defenseman Yegor Yakovlev is planning to sign with the New Jersey Devils. It seems that GM Ray Shero and company have stayed busy on the talent acquisition front for next season, despite the team still being focused on their first-round playoff series.

Yakovlev, 26, is yet another talented member of KHL powerhouse SKA. Teammates like Ilya Kovalchuk, Nikita Gusev, Sergei Plotnikov, and Mikko Koskinen are among many on the roster who could sign in the NHL this summer, but Yakovlev seems to be closest to a concrete deal. Yakovlev lost games due to injury in 2017-18, but last season set career highs with 21 points and a +30 rating in 56 games. He made up for some missed time this year with a strong showing for Russia at the Olympics as well, skating on the team’s top pair. A high-energy two-way defenseman, Yakovlev certainly appears to have the talent to push for a regular role in the NHL.

Left handed D, seems like a worthwhile move.

Call Your Grandma
Jan 17, 2010

T-Bone posted:

Left handed D, seems like a worthwhile move.

Looks unproven, the Devils should go with a KHL wunderkind that also has NHL experience, such as Nikolai Zaitsev.
I understand that the going rate for a top-4 defender is one (1) Taylor Hall.

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A Typical Goon
Feb 25, 2011
Anyone else watched the U-18s this year? Alexis Lafreniere is playing insanely good for a 16 year old, I think he might be a McDavid level prospect. At least in the America game he looked as good as Jack Hughes, who is a year older and probably a solid bet for being the #1 puck in 2019

Lafreniere finished his 16 year old season 9th in QMJHL scoring with 80 points in 60 games. For comparison sure thing top 5 pick this year Filip Zadina had 82 points in 58 games as an 18 year old.

McDavid has 66 points in 63 games as a 16 year old in the OHL, but to be fair his team was absolute garbage and still finished last in the league where Lafreniere’s team seems to have been at least average.

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