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Iron Crowned posted:Animation usually gets a pass because that's been a staple of Hanna Barbera since the dawn of time Even the Flintstones got into that eventually with the Great Gazoo. (and not even getting into some of the loving bizarre spinoffs that show got. And the show's finale movie was Moonraker with caveman technology) A lot of shows have a 'wacky guy' wildcard, nonhuman or just noticeably weirder than the rest, almost entirely for comic relief and introducing curveball plots that even the already silly main characters wouldn't consider. (though there are shows where the main protagonist is by far the silliest character, Doctor Who comes to mind) I think in a lot of cases the wacky family member (Alf in particular) was there to appeal to kids who'd otherwise still be watching cartoons and bored when their parents want to watch a sitcom. Urkel was an odd case in that he started out as a wacky wildcard and ended up basically taking over the show. (also not unusual, though I imagine sometimes it can go the other way and the wacky character becomes a relic) I think that kind of thing mostly died out when TV shows got more focused on particular viewer demographics rather than wide appeal. (which introduced a lot of its own problems)
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The Bloop posted:Yeah, a friend of a friend was on it. Cooper was great at it, too. i was a reality tv camera operator for 3 years, it mostly sucked rear end and none of the episodes aged well but i did get to eat lunch at the top of a cliff in a vineyard overlooking the adriatic sea once that's my reality show connection, thanks for reading
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CaptainViolence posted:i was a reality tv camera operator for 3 years, it mostly sucked rear end and none of the episodes aged well but i did get to eat lunch at the top of a cliff in a vineyard overlooking the adriatic sea once I was a producer. Getting people drunk and manipulating them to "open up to the camera" was a lot of fun but ethically terrible and I'd feel really bad about it if the subject wasn't really happy with the results. Don't even get me started on the editing. Show never got picked up but I had a great time.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Even the Flintstones got into that eventually with the Great Gazoo. (and not even getting into some of the loving bizarre spinoffs that show got. And the show's finale movie was Moonraker with caveman technology)
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Koalas March posted:I was a producer. Getting people drunk and manipulating them to "open up to the camera" was a lot of fun but ethically terrible and I'd feel really bad about it if the subject wasn't really happy with the results. Don't even get me started on the editing. right??? that's why i eventually bailed and got into making educational videos. reality tv as a whole has not aged well, i don't think. other than joe schmoe show, i mean.
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May 3, 2018 16:12
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DACK FAYDEN posted:Yeah, what the hell was the deal with the Great Gazoo? Mr Mxyzpltk knockoff I presumed. The new Flinstones comics which are way better than they have any right to be actually reimagine him in an interesting and fitting way. (basically totally different)
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do judge shows count? I was on Judge Mathis about 20 years ago because my neighbor refused to pay me the $250 she owed me, I got my $250 but it was not one of my finer moments that's my reality-show-adjacent story
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May 3, 2018 16:22
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A co-worker was on a stupid reality show where they built a wall around one street and had families fight it out without electricity. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/There_Goes_the_Neighborhood_(TV_series) Even knowing someone on the show, I couldn't get past the first episode. I think it was one of those situations where the idea looked better on paper than in practice, but by the time they realized their mistake it was too late to stop. So you just power through your 7 episodes, hope you can make it interesting in post-production, and forget it ever happened.
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May 3, 2018 16:33
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TheKennedys posted:do judge shows count? I was on Judge Mathis about 20 years ago because my neighbor refused to pay me the $250 she owed me, I got my $250 but it was not one of my finer moments Did you also get paid money to be on TV? I understood those judge shows being like both people get $1000 either way and the judgement is just the icing
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Ghost Leviathan posted:The new Flinstones comics which are way better than they have any right to be actually reimagine him in an interesting and fitting way. (basically totally different) http://www.dorkly.com/post/82072/wiiiiiillllmaaaaaa 
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We participated in a genocide, Barney
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But our ferns.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Mr Mxyzpltk knockoff I presumed. I recently read that series and it wasn't what I was expecting but it was good. In addition to the army vet on hold posted above there's also: Bedrock being built where the Forest People used to live. They were slaughtered and the forest burned to make room for the city. Bambam is the lone survivor of the Forest People found in a tree and taken in by Barney who wasn't able to have kids of his own. Wilma is a runaway who wasn't happy with the man her dad sold her to for marriage. The new mayor of Bedrock closing down the children's hospital so he could afford new armor for his dinosaur army and getting rid of retirement options so he could buy pteradactyl drones (that ate innocent Bedrock people rather than the lizard people they were supposed to)
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trickybiscuits posted:Yeah It’s weird because I grew up in what we call “the north country” and I really didn’t encounter open racism until about 9th grade - at which point, in art class, two giant dudes a grade or two ahead approached me about joining their new chapter of the klan. My response was something to the effect of “What? There aren’t even any ‘minorities’ here to hate. What the hell is wrong with you?” Aesop Poprock posted:Something that has aged well on this subject is the Mission Hill episode about it from like 1999 I think Man, I haven’t thought about Mission Hill in a long while, but I recall loving it. What got it cancelled?
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A friend of mine has talked about seeing people get fitted for klan robes at a county fair in upstate NY. There's a serious racism problem.
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burial posted:It’s weird because I grew up in what we call “the north country” and I really didn’t encounter open racism until about 9th grade - at which point, in art class, two giant dudes a grade or two ahead approached me about joining their new chapter of the klan. My response was something to the effect of “What? There aren’t even any ‘minorities’ here to hate. What the hell is wrong with you?” I grew up in a place that sort of secretly ended up being racist all along, but growing up I never noticed it because I want to Catholic school so never saw any of it firsthand. I was the white kid who would unironically retell Carlos Mencia jokes about "beaners" and Chris Rock's "Black People vs. Niggers" bit, and it wasn't until I heard adults voicing stuff like that and meaning it, rather than just accepting it as a joke bit, that I realized what was up. Being on decently moderated places on the internet really did wonders for me in the long run of not being an absolute shithead. burial posted:Man, I haven’t thought about Mission Hill in a long while, but I recall loving it. What got it cancelled? The WB.
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burial posted:It’s weird because I grew up in what we call “the north country” and I really didn’t encounter open racism until about 9th grade - at which point, in art class, two giant dudes a grade or two ahead approached me about joining their new chapter of the klan. My response was something to the effect of “What? There aren’t even any ‘minorities’ here to hate. What the hell is wrong with you?" I grew up in a very white suburb of Syracuse in the 80s, and remember far more Polish jokes than blatant racism against non-white folks. I think it was a perfect storm of Syracuse having a high Polish-descended population at the time (I kid you not, easily 1/2 of my friends or teachers had "ski" on the end of their name), coupled with the very popular Archie Bunker casually referring to Mike as his "idiot Pollack son in law". I can't recall the last time I heard someone making a joke about or dissing Polish people, even in these vile wastes we call the Internet. I wonder how those Archie lines hold up to someone born way after me, just abject confusion?
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Polish-Americans assimilated and have levels of wealth and educational attainment similar to other white Americans, thus limiting their utility as an "other". I hear anti-Polish prejudice is alive and well in the UK, though!
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I grew up in the Pacific Northwest, which is apparently racist militia central
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May 3, 2018 20:06
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You're more likely to hear jokes about polish jokes than polish jokes themselves honestly
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This just teaches me that NY really is large. And weird. And, in many ways, unfortunate. Also I think I only encountered Mission Hill after it was off air, so that makes sense.
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purple death ray posted:You're more likely to hear jokes about polish jokes than polish jokes themselves honestly I made an ironic polish joke this weekend at the expense of the movie Sunshine, starring Cillian Murphy.
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JacquelineDempsey posted:I grew up in a very white suburb of Syracuse in the 80s, and remember far more Polish jokes than blatant racism against non-white folks. I think it was a perfect storm of Syracuse having a high Polish-descended population at the time (I kid you not, easily 1/2 of my friends or teachers had "ski" on the end of their name), coupled with the very popular Archie Bunker casually referring to Mike as his "idiot Pollack son in law". All in the Family holds up great and is one of the best TV shows of all time. I won't hear a negative word spoken about it. Trouble is Archie Bunker has become normalized. Check out this bit from 40 years ago played for laughs that half the country currently agrees with. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lDb0Dn8OXE
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CaptainViolence posted:right??? that's why i eventually bailed and got into making educational videos. reality tv as a whole has not aged well, i don't think. I kinda want to rewatch the Joe Schmoe show again, but I'm afraid it won't live up to the memories.
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Iron Crowned posted:I was thinking about it on the way into work, but it's kind of weird that in the 80's-90's a popular sub-genre of sitcom revolved around a wacky family member. Like everyone is normal, except that they have a pet alien, the daughter is a robot, the mom died and got replaced by their aunt, and the step-dad is an army man. It's just mirroring the 60s/70s: I Dream of Jeannie Bewitched The Flying Nun My Mother the Car The Girl With Something Extra
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CommonShore posted:I made an ironic polish joke this weekend at the expense of the movie Sunshine, starring Cillian Murphy. Cillian Murphy is Irish and has the most Irish name ever (spelled the traditional Gaelic way with no letter K)?? edit: am I the  ?
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purple death ray posted:You're more likely to hear jokes about polish jokes than polish jokes themselves honestly Ugh, even Polish jokes can't get anything right. 
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The Bloop posted:Did you also get paid money to be on TV? yeah, we both got a free all-expense trip to Chicago for all of like 48 hours (with a guest) and a couple hundred bucks just for showing up and making a minor scene on TV. it was terrifying and I'm really glad it was in like 2001 before everything was permanently committed to the internet
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Who What Now posted:I kinda want to rewatch the Joe Schmoe show again, but I'm afraid it won't live up to the memories. What is going on!? That poor bastard
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I watched that with my housemates back in college, and it was interesting, but we all kinda hated it by the end. They really tried to wring every last drop of drama out of it in the final episodes, and it became just as tedious and obnoxious as the shows I thought it was satirizing. I never knew there was a second season, and the Wikipedia article makes it sound better than the first.
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This recent talk reminds me of that show they did on Comedy Central where they hired some guy to make an 80s-style comedy movie and it was all supposedly a joke on him. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windy_City_Heat
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Rollersnake posted:I watched that with my housemates back in college, and it was interesting, but we all kinda hated it by the end. They really tried to wring every last drop of drama out of it in the final episodes, and it became just as tedious and obnoxious as the shows I thought it was satirizing. The second season they do 2 people to trick, but one of them figures it out so they try to work her into the joke.
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Polish is the only word in the English language that changes pronunciation when capitalized. This has been another walrusman trivia interlude.
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We'll surely avoid scurvy if we all eat an orange.
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bobjr posted:The second season they do 2 people to trick, but one of them figures it out so they try to work her into the joke. The second season was interesting because the gal who figured it out was cunning. The guy from season one didn't notice these tiny slip-ups, she kept loving track and was on to them from minute one. So, the first part of the season was all about watching her slowly figure out she was on a sham of a reality dating show. The second part of the season they had to redirect a bit and "let" her in on it because she'd figured poo poo out already, which wasn't as interesting. The first season also stands out for having Natasha Leggero and Kristen freakin' Wiig waaaaay before they were famous.
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walrusman posted:Polish is the only word in the English language that changes pronunciation when capitalized. The people of Reading reading this disagree.
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walrusman posted:Polish is the only word in the English language that changes pronunciation when capitalized. Nice job.
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spog posted:The people of Reading reading this disagree. Wait am I not supposed to read Reading as reading?
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Tardcore posted:Wait am I not supposed to reed redding as reeding?
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