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What hot hatch do you own? This poll is closed. |
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| Golf GTI / R / R32 |
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196 | 0.02% |
| Impreza WRX / STi |
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133 | 0.01% |
| Mazdaspeed 3 |
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92 | 0.01% |
| Veloster Turbo |
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20 | 0.00% |
| Focus ST |
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149 | 0.01% |
| Other Hot Hatch |
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230 | 0.02% |
| Elantra GT |
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1000001 | 99.92% |
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Base fusion sports are $25k too now. If they didn't have such a poo poo radio and weigh 4200lbs I'd consider it.
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May 3, 2018 02:10
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Ford's gonna be cheap as gently caress next year.
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May 3, 2018 02:13
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Alright FiST owning goons, do any of you play hockey and if so can you fit your gear in the back? (assuming w/ seats folded down). Throwing hockey gear in the car once or twice a week will be the biggest thing I will generally haul in the car, as 90% of the time my car is just myself. I have been mulling over a FiST or FoST as my next daily driver and finally got around to checking them out in person. I had been told I wouldn't like how small the FiST is (as I'm not a small guy), but after sitting in both, I honestly feel way more comfortable sitting in the FiST and the sight lines are significantly better. I still need to take one out for a test drive, but I'm holding out a bit, as I'm worried my self control will disappear if I get to take one out for a spin. I've got a few different dealers that still have 2017 models that they seem very eager to get rid of as they already have 2018 models in stock.
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May 3, 2018 02:25
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ManiacMatt posted:Alright FiST owning goons, do any of you play hockey and if so can you fit your gear in the back? (assuming w/ seats folded down). Throwing hockey gear in the car once or twice a week will be the biggest thing I will generally haul in the car, as 90% of the time my car is just myself. I dont play hockey but I was able to close the hatch around a full sized water heater in box, hope this helps
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May 3, 2018 02:31
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I don't play anymore, but I played for years. You can definitely fit a hockey bag, probably without putting the seats down.BlackMK4 posted:
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May 3, 2018 02:32
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If hockey gear for one person won't fit in a FiST with the seats folded down then hockey gear is way bigger than I ever would have guessed. Here's my work gear going in the back:   The cart is 52" long extended for scale.
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May 3, 2018 02:48
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Whelp, trunk is definitely bigger than it looked from the outside (I didn't show up with a bag to open the hatch and test). But I am feeling way more optimistic now that I'm seeing the above examples. Now to convince my better half that the FiST will be the next car I buy. That will be harder part, as she doesn't drive standard, so I can just let her take it for a test drive to convince her.
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May 3, 2018 03:09
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I’m almost positive someone in this thread once posted about how they fit a few dudes and a bunch of hockey gear in the car for a road trip.
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May 3, 2018 03:30
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savesthedayrocks posted:Perfect, thanks. Car play is literally all I need. I’ve thought about the recaro’s and heated stuff. I guess they would be nice, but hoping that sitting in one will help me decide. I'm pretty sure the radio in the ST1 doesn't have integration, so for not a whole lot, you can upgrade the head unit to whatever you want.
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May 3, 2018 09:05
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I don't think you'll have too many issues with hockey bags, unless you are one giant dude and play goalie. I can fit 2 player bags in the back of mine.
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May 3, 2018 12:42
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ManiacMatt posted:Whelp, trunk is definitely bigger than it looked from the outside (I didn't show up with a bag to open the hatch and test). But I am feeling way more optimistic now that I'm seeing the above examples. I fit one of the grit mesh bags in mine with no issues. You'll just have to take off the cargo cover, it's a bit too low if you have a tall bag.
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May 3, 2018 12:43
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ManiacMatt posted:Whelp, trunk is definitely bigger than it looked from the outside (I didn't show up with a bag to open the hatch and test). But I am feeling way more optimistic now that I'm seeing the above examples. Buy mine!
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May 4, 2018 04:42
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ManiacMatt posted:Alright FiST owning goons, do any of you play hockey and if so can you fit your gear in the back? (assuming w/ seats folded down). Throwing hockey gear in the car once or twice a week will be the biggest thing I will generally haul in the car, as 90% of the time my car is just myself. A FiST is the best car I've ever had by far, as a total package. Your self control will probably disappear, but that's a good thing because they are drat good cars for the money. Buy the spyder's car, you know it was very well taken care of and Kona blue is the best color.
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May 5, 2018 21:57
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SeaGoatSupreme posted:Kona blue is the best color. Can confirm 
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May 6, 2018 00:19
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Edit: wrong thread! Traded in my S3 for a 2018 Civic Si in the best color, Rallye Red. S3 was an amazing car, but kind of boring and expensive for a car I hardly drove. Have a picture anyway:  Shartweek fucked around with this message at 00:31 on May 6, 2018 |
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May 6, 2018 00:26
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the spyder posted:Buy mine! Assuming I was entertaining this idea, what area of North America are we talking?
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May 6, 2018 02:28
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ManiacMatt posted:Assuming I was entertaining this idea, what area of North America are we talking? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7iVsdRbhnc the state, IIRC
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May 6, 2018 11:31
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ManiacMatt posted:Assuming I was entertaining this idea, what area of North America are we talking? he's near PDX
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May 6, 2018 16:38
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Coolnezzz posted:Edit: wrong thread! I was debating a gti or used golf r, but was offered a pretty good deal on a civic si later next month, what made you pick that if you don't mind my asking?
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May 6, 2018 17:27
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Edit: Double post, I'm dumb
Pine Cone Jones fucked around with this message at 17:38 on May 6, 2018 |
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May 6, 2018 17:34
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GentlemanofLeisure posted:Man, I'm so ready for my lease to be up. 13 months to go. The GTI is a good car, but it's boring as poo poo as it doesn't really have any character. Everything on it's pretty good, but nothing really exceptional, and nothing to really complain about either. Maybe its just my AI ADD but I can't wait to get something else. Absolutely feel this way coming from an e46. Gas mileage is great, everything works, but it has zero soul.
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May 7, 2018 00:28
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Pine Cone Jones posted:I was debating a gti or used golf r, but was offered a pretty good deal on a civic si later next month, what made you pick that if you don't mind my asking? The Si is much cheaper to own and run and it's more fun to drive, to me. The VWs felt kind of like all of the controls were slightly disconnected from the driver's inputs, like there was a very slight delay. Too little feedback in the S3, no matter if I was in Dynamic mode or not, and I only went to the S3 from the GTI because I wanted to experience the haldex AWD and the DSG, which were both pretty decent but still just kind of boring to drive. The steering in the S3 was by far my least favorite part about it, I hear the Golf R is better but I never test drove one, and the GTI was good but not as good as my Fiesta ST. The DSG was having troubles with 3rd gear both before and after it was tuned, rather than starting down the path of getting it serviced I just parted it out then got rid of it instead. I'd only had the car since last September and drove it for about 3500 miles before I was over it. Just tooling around town yesterday and today the Si feels more enjoyable or rewarding to drive to me, it's kind of hard to describe, it's more fun even though it's significantly down on power. With the mechanical LSD, close ratio gearing and really slick shifter, the Si is a loving blast at low speeds compared to the VWs. I still miss my Fiesta ST, I don't miss the VWs (yet), and the Si is pretty much more of the FiST just in a better package. I was considering another Miata but I do like to take passengers and stuff my car full of things occasionally, just not enough to have picked up the (very ugly) Civic Si sedan. The coupe looks better IMO, even with the silly wing.
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May 7, 2018 00:29
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Thanks! I'll have to give the si a test drive when I have a chance, especially if I can snag one with the performance package.
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May 7, 2018 00:57
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A lot of "soul" is just a sketchy alignment imo
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May 7, 2018 03:38
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Christobevii3 posted:A lot of "soul" is just a sketchy alignment imo I dunno, I think it's pretty accurate. I've driven all of them on the street, and all but a FoST on track. The VAG cars are all probably 'better' but they're nowhere near as fun. They're just disconnected feeling. Interiors are better, but they're just...cars.
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May 7, 2018 03:50
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You add some camber for turn in and change the toe you have a more aggressive feel that the FoST has
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May 7, 2018 03:54
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The FiST is downright nervous, it makes my S2000 feel incredibly stable. And yes, the GTI is boring to drive, that's part of why I sold mine. Soul comes down to being playful and rev-happy, rather than something that runs out of breath up top, has little steering / pedal input feel, and has a heavy flywheel / software that makes the car take forever to rev match or hang revs. BlackMK4 fucked around with this message at 04:07 on May 7, 2018 |
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May 7, 2018 04:02
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BlackMK4 posted:The FiST is downright nervous, it makes my S2000 feel incredibly stable. Yup. Mine is significantly less nervous with big front camber and higher rate progressive springs and better dampeners., but it can be a squirrelly car at high speeds. The rack is very fast and very numb.
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May 7, 2018 04:07
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It bobbles and darts around on the freeway with a feeling of lightness, which is somewhat annoying. When it torque vectors... like through a decreasing radius turn, it'll make you chuckle, something the GTI definitely does not do. It is a feeling of electronic wizardry.
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May 7, 2018 04:09
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Crunchy Black posted:Absolutely feel this way coming from an e46. Gas mileage is great, everything works, but it has zero soul. i only had a 330i but i dont miss it over the gti i'd say i miss having something RWD but not the e46 in any way BlackMK4 posted:It bobbles and darts around on the freeway with a feeling of lightness, which is somewhat annoying. When it torque vectors... like through a decreasing radius turn, it'll make you chuckle, something the GTI definitely does not do. It is a feeling of electronic wizardry. gti gets that feeling right if you get the perf package
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May 7, 2018 05:09
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I'm not sure how the PO of my car set things up to be so perfect, but on the highway my FiST is perfectly stable, and still lively as hell the second I decide to hoon. Though honestly that may just be my inexperience with decent cars talking. What's the smartish road to getting a little more from this thing? Tires-> access port -> miscellaneous cooling and turbo poo poo?
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May 7, 2018 14:52
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Boring is the last thing I would call my GTI. You guys are nuts. C/D had a recent comparison with Si and GTI. GTI won. I know, I know a car mag, bla bla. I've always liked their input on cars, however. https://www.caranddriver.com/comparisons/2017-honda-civic-si-vs-2018-volkswagen-golf-gti-comparison-test
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May 8, 2018 11:38
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SeaGoatSupreme posted:
The AP will give you a lot more for the least money.
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May 8, 2018 12:20
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Is the civic a hot hatch? The type R seems too expensive to me. Why can't they put a 2.4 L turbo in the cheap one. It can't cost any more money just drill bigger holes in the block.
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May 8, 2018 12:45
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Dr.Caligari posted:The AP will give you a lot more for the least money. Totally disagree. Tires are by far the biggest performance upgrade. What use is more power if you still can’t put it down or corner faster?
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May 8, 2018 13:06
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Radiohead71 posted:Boring is the last thing I would call my GTI. You guys are nuts. C/D had a recent comparison with Si and GTI. GTI won. I know, I know a car mag, bla bla. I've always liked their input on cars, however. They specifically say that the Civic is more fun to drive, but the GTI wins elsewhere. BlackMK4 fucked around with this message at 17:05 on May 8, 2018 |
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May 8, 2018 17:03
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Elephanthead posted:Is the civic a hot hatch? The type R seems too expensive to me. Why can't they put a 2.4 L turbo in the cheap one. It can't cost any more money just drill bigger holes in the block. The Si is pretty warm, I'd say. Go drive one?
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May 8, 2018 17:16
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Elephanthead posted:It can't cost any more money just drill bigger holes in the block. yeah that's not how it works exactly
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May 8, 2018 17:51
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:yeah that's not how it works exactly Shush, you. If he wants to bore his block out for an extra liter of displacement, let him go for it. Please record the attempt.
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May 8, 2018 17:59
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KillHour posted:go for it. Please record the attempt.
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May 8, 2018 18:25
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