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barnold
Dec 16, 2011


what do u do when yuo're born to play fps? guess there's nothing left to do but play fps. boom headshot
hello thread my old friend

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iospace
Jan 19, 2038


Hi San Jose

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010

Kilza posted:

They've had Bakersfield as their AHL team since 2015-16 and have failed to make the playoffs in all 3 seasons, although OKC was their AHL team before that (from 2010-2015) and they were actually successful so :shrug:


It's not just a development thing, though. They're also bad at drafting (although, really, those can go hand in hand). From 2007 until 2014, here's the list of 2nd-7th round picks that have played (or will play) at least 100 games:
2009 - Anton Lander (215 GP, 2nd round) (KHL)
2010 - Tyler Pitlick (138 GP, 2nd round) (currently on Dallas)
2010 - Martin Marincin (177 GP, 2nd round) (AHL)
2010 - Brandon Davidson (152 GP, 6th round) (currently on Isles)
*2011 - Tobias Rieder (312 GP, 4th round) (0 games on the Oilers)
2012 - Jujhar Khaira (94 GP, 3rd round) (still on the Oilers)
*2012 - Erik Gustafsson (76 GP, 4th round) (0 games on the Oilers)
2013 - Anton Slepyshev (102 GP, 3rd round) (KHL)

There were 50 picks over that time, only 8 on that list, and only 6 that played some or all of those games with the Oilers, and just one that'll be on the Oilers 2018-19 roster. I think it speaks a lot to the Oilers draft/development problems that the most successful player on this list was somebody who they gave away for Kale loving Kessy.

A friend of mine who stopped watching hockey and came back a few years ago asked me why Calgary was so bad for most of the 90's. Certainly the trade with Leafs that sent Gilmour away is amongst the worst ever made in the league, but they could have recovered from that if they hadn't blown SO many 1st rounders from '91 (when the trouble with Doug started) on. Seriously, this is just their list of 1st rounders from' 91 until 2002 when Daryl Sutter took over.

'91: #19, Niklas Sundblad (2GP in the NHL. Seriously, 2. The only person they drafted that year who played any time in the NHL was Sandy loving McCarthy. Ugh.)
'92: #6, Cory Stillman (1025 GP, 405 with Calgary. Not a terrible pick, except we picked him over Sergei Gonchar and Jason Smith, both of whom I'd rather have, but at least that's more hindsight based. Only 3 other players played more than 200 games in the NHL other than Stillman, and two of them, Robert Svehla, and Joel Bouchard, never played for Calgary)
'93: #18, Strike out on a another Swede, this time Jesper Mattsson. Never plays an NHL game. Picked over Saku Koivu, Jamie Langenbrunner, and Bryan McCabe. Only one player (German Titov) picked ever does anything for the Flames. He is picked in the 10th round.
'94: #19 Chris Dingman. He was not good. That 1st sucked for a LOT of teams, but they could have had Curtis Brown (#43) Jose goddamned Theodore (selected #44) at #19. Dingman had 15 goals in 385 games. No other players selected by the Flames in the draft ever do anything for Calgary. Pattern's forming.
'95: #20 Denis Gauthier. I actually don't hate this pick. Where I struggle is Clark Wilm being the only guy who ever suits up for the Flames other than Gauthier. I realize drafts are crapshoots but you have to do better. We also traded for Iggy at this draft, though. Mitigating factor: we did it as much due to Iggy's potential as Nieuwendyk being tired of Calgary's poo poo.
'96 #13: Derek Morris. Morris was a decent PP QB. He was also a defensive liability. They also picked Toni Lydman who played close to 300 G for Calgary. He stunk.
'97: #6 Daniel Tzacuk: Picked over Samsonov, Hossa, Morrow, and Cleary. Combined GP of Flames' picks? 81. TOTAL.
'98: #6 Rico Fata, who was poo poo upon poo. Drafted over many quality guys including Simon Gagne. Upside is we got Regehr from Colorado, which is the only thing that made the Fleury trade less of a debacle.
'99: #11 Oleg Saprykin. We drafted Craig Anderson that year also, and promptly let him go. He is the only other NHL player drafted in the draft. Oleg was drafted over Dave Tanabe, Barret Jackman, and Marty Havlat.
'00: #9 Brent Krahn. Hands down, the worst 1st round pick in Flames history, picked over a bunch of decent forwards, topped by Justin Williams. We picked 3 guys in this draft with over 500 games: Kurtis Foster (poop), Jarret Stoll (never played a game for the Flames), and Travis Moen (green poop).
'01 #14 Chuck Kobasew. Wildly inconsistent. Rest of the draft has 1 player, David Moss, who plays significant time in the NHL.

Lots of bad drafting after that (Kris Chucko comes to mind, who at least had a great name) but at least Sutter was wheeling and dealing to make up for it.

tofes
Mar 31, 2011

#1 Milpitas Dave and Buster's superfan since 2013
I hope they don't sign Kane to a contract

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

derek morris was a cool badass

Furnaceface
Oct 21, 2004




El Gallinero Gros posted:

'97: #6 Daniel Tzacuk: Picked over Samsonov, Hossa, Morrow, and Cleary. Combined GP of Flames' picks? 81. TOTAL.

Barrie has somehow managed to sell quite a few first round busts to the NHL. Tkaczuk, Burmistrov, Volchkov, Henrich (lol Oilers), and Shvidki all come to mind.

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ea7UsdITeU4

wow. can't believe abdelkader gets up from this

DJExile
Jun 28, 2007


https://twitter.com/KKurzNHL/status/993321627004776448

Jamwad Hilder
Apr 18, 2007

surfin usa
people picked Boston to miss the playoffs and I thought they'd be a wild card team at best, so all things considered it was a good season

stab
Feb 12, 2003

To you from failing hands we throw the torch, be yours to hold it high

Jamwad Hilder posted:

people picked Boston to miss the playoffs and I thought they'd be a wild card team at best, so all things considered it was a good season

https://twitter.com/CanadiensMTL/status/993500946679369733?s=19

ThinkTank
Oct 23, 2007

https://twitter.com/Bmarch63/status/993508815537692672

HootTheOwl
May 13, 2012

Hootin and shootin

Would have gone with :p

stab
Feb 12, 2003

To you from failing hands we throw the torch, be yours to hold it high

https://twitter.com/Bmarch63/status/993518846031073286?s=19

IM NOT OWNED IM NOT OWNED

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

October is pretty generous.

Spelling Mitsake
Oct 4, 2007

Clutch Cargo wishes they had Tractor.
It looses a lot of sting when it's bilingual. Marchand should have replied in both languages.

DJExile
Jun 28, 2007


https://twitter.com/footballcrank/status/993510106007556097?s=19

Veskit
Mar 2, 2005

I love capitalism!! DM me for the best investing advice!

tofes posted:

I hope they don't sign Kane to a contract

Why he's good and cool.

Veskit
Mar 2, 2005

I love capitalism!! DM me for the best investing advice!
We didn't have Thornton, Hansen, or ward, and we did have the corpse of Martin so whatever fine we lost. I feel like we played to our potential but I will remain so very disappointed.

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

Fuck the DH
Sharks are out. Well, whatever. They should have played game 1 better if they felt they deserved a game 7. Hitting the bar and posts in one game as much as you do in a whole series is something that happens sometimes to good teams. Getting shut out twice isn't.

NHL reffing is as terrible as it's ever been, btw.

Veskit posted:

Why he's good and cool.

His injury history doesn't look good. If he'll take more money over years, fine. If he wants years, let him go.

Craptacular! fucked around with this message at 20:03 on May 7, 2018

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

https://www.aftonbladet.se/tv/a/252154 seems like we see one or two of these a year but lol oel

stab
Feb 12, 2003

To you from failing hands we throw the torch, be yours to hold it high
Hi Pittsburgh.

Eat all of the dicks

sedative
Mar 20, 2003

‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ :allears:
hell yeah gently caress you pittsburgh

iospace
Jan 19, 2038


stab posted:

Hi Pittsburgh.

Eat all of the dicks

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008
been a while since i've had to post here

CBJSprague24
Dec 5, 2010

another game at nationwide arena. everybody keeps asking me if they can fuck the cannon. buddy, they don't even let me fuck it

Your attention, please.

The Pittsburgh Penguins are on the bad end of a handshake line. :stare:

ThinkTank
Oct 23, 2007

Pens, its been a long, long while. Welcome back to hell.

Ergo Propter Hog
Jul 21, 2014



Oh no, however will i console myself with this turn of events


*looks at 5 stanley cups*

Oh yeah

Blackbelt Bobman
Jul 17, 2004

I don't need friends! I've been
manipulatin' you since the start!
All so I can something,
something X-Blade!


gently caress the Penguins

yellowcar
Feb 14, 2010

stab posted:

Hi Pittsburgh.

Eat all of the dicks

iospace
Jan 19, 2038


CBJSprague24 posted:

Your attention, please.

The Pittsburgh Penguins are on the bad end of a handshake line. :stare:

Against Washington no less.

Jamwad Hilder
Apr 18, 2007

surfin usa
Get hosed Pittsburgh. Whoever wins the Cup now is Cool.

cenotaph
Mar 2, 2013



I'd be more upset but that was horrible hockey and at least I don't have to watch it anymore. Can't win every year.

Good Soldier Svejk
Jul 5, 2010

Eh, 3 in a row was greedy anyway

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

Vincent Van Goat posted:

Oh no, however will i console myself with this turn of events


*looks at 5 stanley cups*

Oh yeah

Just 5?

Aye Doc
Jul 19, 2007



the pens should get whatever they can for letang and run

iospace
Jan 19, 2038


Jamwad Hilder posted:

Get hosed Pittsburgh. Whoever wins the Cup now is Cool.

Agreed, even if it is the Jets (though they're last in my preference list at the moment, but that's also because the obvious).

e: actually they're 2nd last, last is the Bolts because they already have a Cup.

Good Soldier Svejk
Jul 5, 2010

Aye Doc posted:

the pens should get whatever they can for letang and run

And Maatta while they're at it. But yeah, Letang was awful this year and that's pretty sad.

Kilza
Oct 4, 2013

The Pittsburgh Penguins will not win the Stanley Cup.

Ginette Reno
Nov 18, 2006

How Doers get more done
Fun Shoe
Congrats Caps fans. It was a long time coming.

Pens ran out of gas and had some injuries. The rest will be good for them. For off season moves...I dunno. The roster when healthy is still pretty good. I'd consider moving Letang for a less mistake prone top 4 dman and especially if they could get some young assets/cap space out of it but there's also an argument for keeping him. Mistake prone or not he still drove possession better than any other Pens d.

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CBJSprague24
Dec 5, 2010

another game at nationwide arena. everybody keeps asking me if they can fuck the cannon. buddy, they don't even let me fuck it

For those not keeping track at home, Ryan Reaves and MAF are not eligible for the Loser Thread because they're still in the playoffs. In case you thought both were still on the Pens.


:vince:

e- I had an attempt at a Bruins burn there but I'm just gonna let Aphrodite roll with it.

CBJSprague24 fucked around with this message at 03:17 on May 8, 2018

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