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Ersatz posted:Yeah, violent revolution always works out for the best, and has never once gone horrifically wrong for everyone involved. 
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zeal posted:yeah, so the belters should overthrow capitalist inner imperialism and seize control of the means of food production 
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Ersatz posted:Yeah, violent revolution always works out for the best, and has never once gone horrifically wrong for everyone involved.  E: Beaten, but the point stands.
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Ersatz posted:Yeah, violent revolution always works out for the best, and has never once gone horrifically wrong for everyone involved. Yeah America sucks
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Ersatz posted:Yeah, violent revolution always works out for the best, and has never once gone horrifically wrong for everyone involved. I mean, it *has* worked in the past. By no means a perfect record, but still.
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Lmao so I just discovered this show, thought it was cool and thought I'd check if there was a thread for it. Glad to see you all are enjoying the television show as well.
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spiderbyte posted:I mean, it *has* worked in the past. By no means a perfect record, but still. That's sort of a thing though, the American revolution is one of the vanishingly few that basically worked out okay, no terror or immediate collapse or anything, so it fools people into thinking revolutions are good when usually they go really badly for most people involved. That said if anyone wants to eat the rich, I'm on board.
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May 8, 2018 12:39
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May 8, 2018 12:42
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It didn't work out very well for the blacks and natives though, did it? Wasn't a very big factor in breaking away the Somerset judgement, and the desire to exploit the natives?
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Collateral posted:It didn't work out very well for the blacks and natives though, did it? This is why I said basically okay, not completely. And it's not like slavery didn't exist prior to independence, or that the Europeans didn't exploit the natives. The revolution achieved its goals without descending into a reign of terror and purges or the country collapsing into anarchy. And the civil war which almost inevitably follows a revolution took a long time to happen, and again didn't destroy the place. Grand Fromage fucked around with this message at 12:51 on May 8, 2018 |
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Grand Fromage posted:This is why I said basically okay, not completely. They did indeed, much to our shame. I think the view that it was clean in nature was because the loyalists were able to flee to Canada, so the retributions of normal revolutions was muted. They did return eventually, mostly joining the Federalist Party. edit: doh Collateral fucked around with this message at 12:55 on May 8, 2018 |
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Collateral posted:They did indeed, much to our shame. That definitely helped. The peaceful way the loyalists left and were even compensated for their lost property prevented one of the major ways revolutions fail.
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May 8, 2018 12:53
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The Revolutionary War was also rather low on the "active disdain for the individuals making up the other side" part right? Everyone understood it was mostly about political and economic stuff, not that the other side was subhuman scum worthy of extermination, or the culmination of a centuries-long hatred between two groups. And this is not about a restricted war, it's about weapons of mass destruction that inherently cannot be scaled below a "genocide" setting.
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May 8, 2018 12:57
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I liked the part where the spaceship shot missiles like *WHOOSH* and then the other spaceship exploded.
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bloom posted:I liked the part where the spaceship shot missiles like *WHOOSH* and then the other spaceship exploded. same OP
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bloom posted:I liked the part where the spaceship shot missiles like *WHOOSH* and then the other spaceship exploded. I didn’t like that part. Space shouldn’t have sound.
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Platystemon posted:I didn’t like that part. The missile makes a sound if you're on the missile! I thought the bit in the last episode where Holden felt the vibration of the crew member banging the wall was done really well. Same with the scene where the marines pressed their helmets together to talk without radio. Also lots of other revolutions failed because america was actively working to make sure they failed
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NZAmoeba posted:I thought the bit in the last episode where Holden felt the vibration of the crew member banging the wall was done really well. Same with the scene where the marines pressed their helmets together to talk without radio. Agreed 100%. And that shot last week of zooming in through the hole from a railgun into the broken ship was really really good. The cinematography has been worlds better this season. You can see the showrunners and crew getting better through the seasons.
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Holden's fight with the marine was really cool and vicious for how short it was.
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Arcsquad12 posted:Holden's fight with the marine was really cool and vicious for how short it was. if there were any martian marines on the boat other than bobbie that attempted holdup could've gotten significantly uglier the rescue martians were all sailors like alex
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I did find it weird how quickly not-daniel bruhl recognized avasarala. How many people do you know who can identify current UN leadership at a glance?
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zeal posted:if there were any martian marines on the boat other than bobbie that attempted holdup could've gotten significantly uglier And greenhorns, at that. If an officer had survived they might've taken the Tachi/Roci/Penis... 
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Arcsquad12 posted:I did find it weird how quickly not-daniel bruhl recognized avasarala. How many people do you know who can identify current UN leadership at a glance? Maybe they have a Earth leadership deck of cards?
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Arcsquad12 posted:I did find it weird how quickly not-daniel bruhl recognized avasarala. How many people do you know who can identify current UN leadership at a glance? If I understand correctly, the UN is a lot more important in The Expanse Earth than it is in our actual world. Inst it like a global government in the show universe?
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Yeah it's not so far-fetched, it'd be like a Russian soldier today recognising the American vice-president.
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Also Avasarala was a face of the UN on the newsfeeds, remember her propagandizing about Fred Johnson in previous seasons?
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GuardianOfAsgaard posted:Yeah it's not so far-fetched, it'd be like a Russian soldier today recognising the American vice-president. Exactly this. Especially if there are only really two major governments, and they are kinda sorta at war right now.
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GuardianOfAsgaard posted:Yeah it's not so far-fetched, it'd be like a Russian soldier today recognising the American vice-president. And the UN in this show is pretty clearly a nation- and a superpower in the system at that. Comparing it to the current UN is going to throw you off. So yeah, it's quite likely that she'd be immediately recognized by a martian grunt.
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It's the rapid succession of : This is the Tachi You're James Holden That's a Recon Marine That's the UN 3rd in command that was really neat. Poor Martian sailor wouldn't of been surprised if the Easter Bunny stepped out next from behind the bulkhead.
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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:And greenhorns, at that. If an officer had survived they might've taken the Tachi/Roci/Penis... nah, if their lieutenant had survived he would've just died horribly to Amos when things dragged on long enough for him to get there in time e: Eiba posted:So yeah, it's quite likely that she'd be immediately recognized by a martian grunt. yeah, it's no more far-fetched than an Iraqi soldier being able to recognize Colin Powell or Dick Cheney circa 2003, or a North Vietnamese soldier being able to recognize Henry Kissinger in the 70s. 1994 Toyota Celica fucked around with this message at 19:44 on May 8, 2018 |
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Arcsquad12 posted:I did find it weird how quickly not-daniel bruhl recognized avasarala. How many people do you know who can identify current UN leadership at a glance? She's the third in line for the throne of the largest and most powerful human polity in the system. It's like recognizing the US Speaker of the House or Vice President. Not really that far-fetched, especially since she's been all over systemwide TV and is currently at war with Mars so every single mess hall in the MCRN probably has either her, Gillis, or Errinwright's face taped over the dartboard. Crazycryodude fucked around with this message at 19:53 on May 8, 2018 |
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drewhead posted:It's the rapid succession of : i mean there is alien goo in the cargo hold, that'd give him a neat shock.
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Am I tripping out or did they walk right past protomolecule crystals on the side of the hallway in the tachi when they were boarding the Martian wreck?
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Google Butt posted:Am I tripping out or did they walk right past protomolecule crystals on the side of the hallway in the tachi when they were boarding the Martian wreck? That was ice, they mentioned something about the water tank being breached by the railgun round
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lol I love that every scene having blue lighting is causing crazy theories that the protomolecule is literally everywhere
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Phi230 posted:lol I love that every scene having blue lighting is causing crazy theories that the protomolecule is literally everywhere your mom's protomolecule
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