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iospace posted:I blame McDavid They should definitely trade him.
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i am the bird posted:They will definitely trade him.
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Technetium posted:The Leafs signed all those players they were rumoured to sign All look pretty decent stats wise over the yeas. In Dubas we trust.
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https://twitter.com/penguins/status/997499659328376832 Pens restocking the defense, since some of them are leaving to play in Europe.
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Mage_Boy posted:https://twitter.com/penguins/status/997499659328376832 Seems like WBS fodder.
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Ginette Reno posted:Seems like WBS fodder. Probably, may also be one of the ones to call up for injuries depending on how he does.
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May 18, 2018 17:15
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https://twitter.com/EdmontonOilers/status/997484989095661574 Oilers giving a player a contract to not play for them is certainly a new one.
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May 18, 2018 19:31
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If the Edmonton Oilers wish to pay me a bunch of money not to play hockey for them I would graciously accept.
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May 18, 2018 19:34
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Kilza posted:https://twitter.com/EdmontonOilers/status/997484989095661574 It’s an interesting concept. They’re paying for his RFA rights with a signing bonus.
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May 18, 2018 19:39
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The guy is 24 already. If he's not ready for the North American pro ranks yet, he never will be.
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May 18, 2018 20:19
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ThinkTank posted:The guy is 24 already. If he's not ready for the North American pro ranks yet, he never will be. Mark Streit
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May 18, 2018 20:24
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a false posted:Mark Streit don't mock the age charts
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May 18, 2018 20:27
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a false posted:Mark Streit Philip Larsen, Anton Belov, Viktor Antipin, Jakub Nakladl, etc.
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May 18, 2018 20:48
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Interesting concept, because a top guy in the SHL is probably higher in the depth chart than at least half of the non-NHL players on two-way contracts.
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ThinkTank posted:Philip Larsen, Anton Belov, Viktor Antipin, Jakub Nakladl, etc. Rafalski
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May 18, 2018 20:56
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brian rafalski should have been signed right out of college, but it was the era where guys like steve sullivan were passed up in the draft multiple times despite taking dumps all over their competition
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clean ayers act posted:Rafalski Dadonov, Tim Thomas, Burrows, Giordano, Joel Ward, Bellemare, John Madden, Moulson, Gourde, Franzen, Andy Greene there are certainly more busts (as there are when you draft), but it's worth taking a shot on dudes sometimes! T-Bone fucked around with this message at 21:18 on May 18, 2018 |
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May 18, 2018 21:16
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T-Bone posted:Dadonov, Tim Thomas, Burrows, Giordano, Joel Ward, Bellemare, John Madden, Moulson, Gourde, Franzen, Andy Greene Sure, there's no reason not to take shots like this. Other than costing the owner money and taking up a contract slot, it's a risk free gamble that could have a nice payoff (although undrafted UFAs have a hit rate around that of a 6th round pick). People are just spinning this Persson signing as somehow him needing more development time. He doesn't, at least not on international sized ice in Sweden. He needs a year in the AHL. I'm not saying the Oilers should throw him to the wolves and give him first pairing NHL minutes, but at best he's treading water in Sweden. The odds are hugely that he'll likely not make it as an NHLer, why delay finding out a full year if that's the case? He's not a 20 year old that could conceivably improve markedly in a year. He's 24 and will likely stay static as a player. A one year deal is a good idea, if he busts it's zero risk. A one year deal where he stays in a playing situation he's already in tells you nothing new and forces you to do this all again in a year.
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May 18, 2018 21:40
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T-Bone posted:Dadonov, Tim Thomas, Burrows, Giordano, Joel Ward, Bellemare, John Madden, Moulson, Gourde, Franzen, Andy Greene 1998 HIFK Helsinki Bellemare is not an NHL caliber hockeyman
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Bellemare is not an NHL caliber hockeyman He definitely has been this year. Actually, he's been an above average one. and agreed that he'd be better off in the AHL but if they like him they like him I guess /shrugs -- I'd be taking as many extra 6th round shots as possible if I were a NHL GM.
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ThinkTank posted:He needs a year in the AHL. I'm not saying the Oilers should throw him to the wolves and give him first pairing NHL minutes, but at best he's treading water in Sweden. The odds are hugely that he'll likely not make it as an NHLer, why delay finding out a full year if that's the case? He's not a 20 year old that could conceivably improve markedly in a year. He's 24 and will likely stay static as a player. A one year deal is a good idea, if he busts it's zero risk. A one year deal where he stays in a playing situation he's already in tells you nothing new and forces you to do this all again in a year. They have no choice. Because of his age they could only sign him to a one year ELC. They don't have to do this all again next year, because next year he'll be out of his ELC and be able to sign a standard contract as would any other RFA.
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Jordan7hm posted:They have no choice. Because of his age they could only sign him to a one year ELC. Yeah but there was no need to assign him to his SHL team next year.
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May 18, 2018 23:28
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The comparable for Persson should be any other D at #7-9 on a depth chart. If he plays well and/or the NHL club decides they really need him, then he ends up in the NHL. Is he better than Keegan Lowe or Ethan Bear? ThinkTank posted:He needs a year in the AHL. I'm not saying the Oilers should throw him to the wolves and give him first pairing NHL minutes, but at best he's treading water in Sweden. The odds are hugely that he'll likely not make it as an NHLer, why delay finding out a full year if that's the case? He's not a 20 year old that could conceivably improve markedly in a year. He's 24 and will likely stay static as a player. A one year deal is a good idea, if he busts it's zero risk. A one year deal where he stays in a playing situation he's already in tells you nothing new and forces you to do this all again in a year. Like a lot of European players, he probably doesn't want to leave a successful career in his home country to earn $70k and ride buses from California to Manitoba to Ohio and Texas. It's perfectly reasonable to be work out a deal where you're either in the NHL or not on a 34 hour bus ride from Bakersfield to Cleveland. The AHL's western conference has brutal travel.
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What difference is there between 24 year old untested in North America Persson and 25 year old untested in North America Persson that would suddenly make him ready for the NHL?
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ThinkTank posted:Yeah but there was no need to assign him to his SHL team next year. I don’t think the AHL means anything for a pro. If you can’t make the jump to the NHl when you’re 25, you weren’t ever going to make it anyway.
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ThinkTank posted:What difference is there between 24 year old untested in North America Persson and 25 year old untested in North America Persson that would suddenly make him ready for the NHL? I'm thinking it's more of a December panic move, when a Kris Russell-Eric Gryba pairing isn't working out.
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Rumor is the Rangers are still interested in Quinn for head coach and that it may be heating up. Not sure I feel great about that! If for no other reason than I feel like always going back to the Boston connections and poo poo is not a good idea. Feels like Gorton has been too Boston centric with some of this poo poo
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Yeah I mean it'd be great if Glenn Gawdin worked out for Calgary but I don't actually expect him to
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Levitate posted:Rumor is the Rangers are still interested in Quinn for head coach and that it may be heating up. lmao if the Rangers take the A+ recruiter and the C- hockey coach
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Levitate posted:Rumor is the Rangers are still interested in Quinn for head coach and that it may be heating up. this would suck and we should hire keefe, instead.
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I hated the AV hire and was pretty wrong for two years so whatever.
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a false posted:this would suck and we should hire keefe, instead. I think Keefe is probably getting a bit more press than he deserves but yeah not a huge fan of Quinn for what I've heard of him. If they do hire him I hope they get some good assistants and poo poo too
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Why would you think that Bennings biggest aquisition would be dealt? That's just asking for dissapointment
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On the other hand Quinn at least says he coaches a puck possession game, 5 man attack, etc. How good he is at implementing it on the other hand...
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i wouldn't be surprised if the coyotes offered what they paid for panik or kruger for sutter but i also wouldn't be surprised if cosmic brain gm wanted a ransom befitting of a foundational franchise piece, or whatever it was he called sutter.
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yeah that's what he called him I want Jim Benning to gently caress off forever
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given what we know of peter chiarelli and jim benning, milan lucic for brandon sutter makes way too much sense to have not been on the table
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Lol, I had Sutter as an overpaid 20/25 guy in my mind. 26 points last year! Amazing! Foundational!
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