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George H.W. Cunt
Oct 6, 2010





Newish job dropped a lot of money on Exagrid and they are sending the team to the Astros/Redsox game with an executive suite.

Vendor perks are new to me and I’m in awe. Free poo poo coming at us left and right.

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CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007




I moved my whole home lab to Azure once I started getting an MSDN account and that sweet sweet monthly credit. Azure rules

That said, I'm trying to learn Service Fabric and my head hurts

Sickening
Jul 16, 2007

Black summer was the best summer.

George H.W. oval office posted:

Newish job dropped a lot of money on Exagrid and they are sending the team to the Astros/Redsox game with an executive suite.

Vendor perks are new to me and I’m in awe. Free poo poo coming at us left and right.


This is what lobbying feels like to politicians and other government officials FYI.

Gucci Loafers
May 20, 2006

Ask yourself, do you really want to talk to pair of really nice gaudy shoes?


CLAM DOWN posted:

I moved my whole home lab to Azure once I started getting an MSDN account and that sweet sweet monthly credit. Azure rules

That said, I'm trying to learn Service Fabric and my head hurts

Same here, I just wish we had $300 or $250 a month. I’m always a bit over :(

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


https://twitter.com/mrscruff1/status/999688703361605633

H110Hawk
Dec 28, 2006

George H.W. oval office posted:

Newish job dropped a lot of money on Exagrid and they are sending the team to the Astros/Redsox game with an executive suite.

Vendor perks are new to me and I’m in awe. Free poo poo coming at us left and right.

If a concert is coming up you want to see hit up your vendors for tickets. Just sort by money spent and text your rep. "Hey did you hear <terrible band> is in town?"

It felt a little wrong to see Nine Inch Nails from box seats. Not so wrong I didn't show up and drink their booze though. (Note: It felt exactly right to see Slayer from the pit. Same rep.)

terrenblade
Oct 29, 2012

Sepist posted:

What's the best antivirus?

A typewriter.

Volguus
Mar 3, 2009

H110Hawk posted:

If a concert is coming up you want to see hit up your vendors for tickets. Just sort by money spent and text your rep. "Hey did you hear <terrible band> is in town?"

It felt a little wrong to see Nine Inch Nails from box seats. Not so wrong I didn't show up and drink their booze though. (Note: It felt exactly right to see Slayer from the pit. Same rep.)

Can confirm, that's the best way to see a concert (guaranteed free tickets :) ). And as I'm getting older, the box (away from the moshpit), looks very appealing with its free booze.

MC Fruit Stripe
Nov 26, 2002

around and around we go

Sepist posted:

What's the best antivirus?
I'm nostalgic for 15 years ago when people would have earnest fights about this question. I was an AVG man, myself.

Inspector_666
Oct 7, 2003

benny with the good hair

MC Fruit Stripe posted:

I'm nostalgic for 15 years ago when people would have earnest fights about this question. I was an AVG man, myself.

NOD32 or gtfo

Vargatron
Apr 19, 2008

MRAZZLE DAZZLE


Didn't Avast! take up a ton of system resources or something?

Zil
Jun 4, 2011

Satanically Summoned Citrus


Inspector_666 posted:

NOD32 or gtfo

CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007




Honestly I think you should go with McAfee, plus ePO for added value.

Vargatron
Apr 19, 2008

MRAZZLE DAZZLE


:smug: Only people bad with computers get computer viruses :smug:

*24 Hours later*

"Hey guys how do I get rid of a cryptolocker???"

Zil
Jun 4, 2011

Satanically Summoned Citrus


Vargatron posted:

:smug: Only people bad with computers get computer viruses :smug:

*24 Hours later*

"Hey guys how do I get rid of a cryptolocker???"

My experience is they usually ask how to buy bitcoins before they reveal they got cryptolockerd.

Vargatron
Apr 19, 2008

MRAZZLE DAZZLE


Zil posted:

My experience is they usually ask how to buy bitcoins before they reveal they got cryptolockerd.

True enough. Sorry I was trying to go old school on that one.

Darchangel
Feb 12, 2009

Tell him about the blower!


dogstile posted:

Sometimes I look at the jobs the warehouse guys get sent out on and figure i'd be happier moving stuff, then i realise how abysmally they get paid and I continue pressing buttons

Same, more or less.

Sepist posted:

What's the best antivirus?

I may be legally obligated to say Trend Micro for continued employment reasons. Let me check my contract.

Necronomicon posted:

Being on Linux.

(Non-joke answer: Windows Defender if you're on Windows. For Mac I have no clue.)

Everybody knows Macs don't get viruses.


... repeatedly to the crotch of anyone caught writing malware. I like it.

Those motherfuckers have cost me a lot of time over the years, for no good reason.

Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin

Sepist posted:

What's the best antivirus?

Sudden Loud Noise
Feb 18, 2007

But what's the best antivirus for Android?!

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

http 418

Sudden Loud Noise posted:

But what's the best antivirus for Android?!


YOLOsubmarine
Oct 19, 2004

When asked which Pokemon he evolved into, Kamara pauses.

"Motherfucking, what's that big dragon shit? That orange motherfucker. Charizard."

Antivirus is old hat. Now the question is which EDR solution is the least miserable.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Necronomicon posted:

Being on Linux.

Sophos will sell you AV for Linux (and AIX, HPUX and Solaris though those are all maintenance mode only since I left :sun:)

Methanar
Sep 26, 2013

by the sex ghost

feedmegin posted:

Sophos will sell you AV for Linux

What does it actually do

Necronomicon
Jan 18, 2004

Darchangel posted:

Everybody knows Macs don't get viruses.

A year in university tech support will teach you the exact opposite. I think it must be all of the stupid file-sharing stuff college kids used to be into.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Methanar posted:

What does it actually do

Detect Windows viruses, mostly. Handy if eg you have a fileserver running Samba and Windows clients.

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

http 418

feedmegin posted:

Detect Windows viruses, mostly. Handy if eg you have a fileserver running Samba and Windows clients.

does it actually work better than clam?

Gucci Loafers
May 20, 2006

Ask yourself, do you really want to talk to pair of really nice gaudy shoes?


Necronomicon posted:

A year in university tech support will teach you the exact opposite. I think it must be all of the stupid file-sharing stuff college kids used to be into.

How the hell do you get a Virus on a Mac?

chin up everything sucks
Jan 29, 2012

Tab8715 posted:

How the hell do you get a Virus on a Mac?

This isn't 2004, Mac adoption has been at significant levels for years now. The only reason macs got the rep for not getting viruses is that most people didn't BOTHER to write viruses for the mac, not because they were more secure.

Speaking as someone who did tech support for Apple back in the mid 2000's.

Darchangel
Feb 12, 2009

Tell him about the blower!


Tab8715 posted:

How the hell do you get a Virus on a Mac?

Mostly you get morons who install Trojans. Anything that actually does any damage has to be OK'd by an admin, but since almost everyone runs as an admin and will type in their password when prompted by anything, just so they can get back to porn surfing...
At least you can't just turn off the elevation notices (easily), and you have to type a password, rather than just clicking "OK", like some other OSes.

in a well actually
Jan 26, 2011

dude, you gotta end it on the rhyme

Necronomicon posted:

Being on Linux.

(Non-joke answer: Windows Defender if you're on Windows. For Mac I have no clue.)

Brother, do you have too many cores or ram on your Linux? System too responsive? Good news! Symantec has a product for you.

Gucci Loafers
May 20, 2006

Ask yourself, do you really want to talk to pair of really nice gaudy shoes?


chin up everything sucks posted:

This isn't 2004, Mac adoption has been at significant levels for years now. The only reason macs got the rep for not getting viruses is that most people didn't BOTHER to write viruses for the mac, not because they were more secure.

Speaking as someone who did tech support for Apple back in the mid 2000's.

Once upon a time I was a certified Apple Macintosh Hardware Tech. Back in ‘05 and saw virus once out of a thousand tickets.

Maybe or maybe it’s due to market penetration but it sure as hell seems like there’s something unique around Linux or OS X that prevents the awful Malware, Virus, etc. that hit Windows in the 90s, 2000s.

nullfunction
Jan 24, 2005

Nap Ghost

Tab8715 posted:

it sure as hell seems like there’s something unique around Linux or OS X that prevents the awful Malware, Virus, etc. that hit Windows in the 90s, 2000s.

I think it's more the design of boundaries within the OS. You pretty much need root.

chin up everything sucks
Jan 29, 2012

Tab8715 posted:

Once upon a time I was a certified Apple Macintosh Hardware Tech. Back in ‘05 and saw virus once out of a thousand tickets.

Maybe or maybe it’s due to market penetration but it sure as hell seems like there’s something unique around Linux or OS X that prevents the awful Malware, Virus, etc. that hit Windows in the 90s, 2000s.

Oh it was a Big loving Deal when we found a virus on a mac back then.

It IS hard to make an effective virus/trojan for a mac - but true viruses are rare these days. People prefer botnets, malware, coin-miners and crypto-lockers over random destruction.

Darchangel
Feb 12, 2009

Tell him about the blower!


nullfunction posted:

I think it's more the design of boundaries within the OS. You pretty much need root.

That’s pretty much it. Same as with most *nix Systems, more or less.

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

Tab8715 posted:

Once upon a time I was a certified Apple Macintosh Hardware Tech. Back in ‘05 and saw virus once out of a thousand tickets.

Maybe or maybe it’s due to market penetration but it sure as hell seems like there’s something unique around Linux or OS X that prevents the awful Malware, Virus, etc. that hit Windows in the 90s, 2000s.

Er yeah, the last time Macs actually topped 10% of global computer sales was back around 1988, and were on a continuous decline in marketshare from then up til 2006 (when it had fallen to 2%, but before the increased sales from the x86 switchover started in earnest). Since then, Macs have only managed to claw their way back to the pitiful share they had in 1992 - about 7.5%.

The total amount of Macs sold from 1984 introduction all the way to the end of 2017 was 232 million. 240 million Windows computers were sold in 2017 alone. That's the sheer scale of difference in use we're talking about when it comes to macs. There's several billion Windows computers out there and online, versus less than a quarter billion Macs if all of them ever made were currently connected, it's a massive effect on whether you're going to bother to write malware, even if you just wanted to write malware for fun you'd need a Mac to test it on.


chin up everything sucks posted:

This isn't 2004, Mac adoption has been at significant levels for years now.


Haha, nope. Still a tiny minority, never been anything but that and never will be. It is quite frankly a ton more likely that Linux proper becomes the majority user OS than that Macs will ever claw their way to say, a quarter of the market.

chin up everything sucks posted:

It IS hard to make an effective virus/trojan for a mac - but true viruses are rare these days. People prefer botnets, malware, coin-miners and crypto-lockers over random destruction.

It's just as hard to do it for Windows, but again with so many more people using them there's way more chances to do so.

Classic Mac OS was even a good deal less robust than contemporary Windows systems were, but the sheer lack of users made it hard to keep malware spreading.

fishmech fucked around with this message at 23:57 on May 24, 2018

chin up everything sucks
Jan 29, 2012

fishmech posted:

Haha, nope. Still a tiny minority, never been anything but that and never will be. It is quite frankly a ton more likely that Linux proper becomes the majority user OS than that Macs will ever claw their way to say, a quarter of the market.

Somebody is living in the past. Mac's are hovering around 20% of the market in general, and are seen as status symbols these days. My previous job was a 100% mac enviroment, my new one has about 30% of the employees on macs.

Linux will never see general adoption, it requires too much knowledge to use easily, and the average computer user doesn't WANT to have to know anything to use their computer.

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

chin up everything sucks posted:

Somebody is living in the past. Mac's are hovering around 20% of the market in general

This is entirely incorrect. In 2017, Apple sold 19.66 million Macs. This places them at 7.6% of the market, which was 259.52 million computers.

chin up everything sucks posted:

My previous job was a 100% mac enviroment, my new one has about 30% of the employees on macs.

Linux will never see general adoption, it requires too much knowledge to use easily, and the average computer user doesn't WANT to have to know anything to use their computer.


Your jobs are massive outliers.

The point is that Macs are definitely not big. The very absurdity of Linux on the desktop is quite the point.

jaegerx
Sep 10, 2012

Maybe this post will get me on your ignore list!


Have you been to a tech conference lately? it's probably 50% Macs.

If the techs are getting Macs then you know the sales guys and the managers are getting Macs too.

DigitalMocking
Jun 8, 2010

Wine is constant proof that God loves us and loves to see us happy.
Benjamin Franklin
One of our clients fell for a spoofed email and sent > 50k to "Our CFO Ms. Lisa" and was mad at us. :confused:

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fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

jaegerx posted:

Have you been to a tech conference lately? it's probably 50% Macs.

If the techs are getting Macs then you know the sales guys and the managers are getting Macs too.

That's really quite meaningless, we have the sales figures for computers going back decades. Like, do you think everybody's just been lying in their computer sales to fake Mac sales being a very low percent of the market, or what?

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