|
A genre I wish did not exist
|
#
?
Jun 2, 2018 19:46
|
|
|
|
| # ? Apr 26, 2024 07:13 |
|
|
NowonSA posted:I think it's more that it'd be an issue for Holden if his brain is telling him he's seeing someone there talking to him but then he puts his hand through it and disproves the illusion. If Miller's being killed and rebuilt as often as he says then I think another boundary issue is less of a big deal than blowing Holden's mind. I'd imagine they'd gut the ship of most of those power-draining luxuries for more armament. They gotta load her up with guns past the point of practicality since it's a flagship and a symbol of power for the belters.
|
|
#
?
Jun 2, 2018 21:37
|
|
|
I can't think what luxuries the Navou would have where it'd make any difference. There's nothing that takes more power than railguns, just turning the things on knocked all the lights out on the Donnager. The Martians are at least a generation ahead of Earth and the belt in tech too (probably more for the belt tbh).
|
|
#
?
Jun 2, 2018 21:54
|
|
|
Was talking in another thread about hardpoints for military weapons... which I assume the Behemoth/Nauvoo wasn't built with. So mounting weapons bigger and more powerful than pdcs (with the recoil they'd have) on its existing frame... would be problematic wouldn't it?
|
|
#
?
Jun 2, 2018 22:11
|
|
|
Blackchamber posted:Was talking in another thread about hardpoints for military weapons... which I assume the Behemoth/Nauvoo wasn't built with. So mounting weapons bigger and more powerful than pdcs (with the recoil they'd have) on its existing frame... would be problematic wouldn't it? Very problematic. They glossed over this, I suppose it may come up later so I'll spoiler it, but by this point in the books they had tested the guns several times and they either blow out the power grid or fracture their frames: a definite glass canon.
|
|
#
?
Jun 2, 2018 22:45
|
|
|
Need to transition to phasers and photon torpedoes asap then.
|
|
#
?
Jun 2, 2018 22:49
|
|
|
tooterfish posted:I can't think what luxuries the Navou would have where it'd make any difference. There's nothing that takes more power than railguns, just turning the things on knocked all the lights out on the Donnager. I think the Martians are getting lazy and too reliant on their advanced tech. They got creamed by the secret protogen ships with the Donnager and that Martian lady said that Admiral Souther was kicking their rear end in the old piece of junk Agatha King. And Alex was impressed by some of the Naval combat strategy Holden devised when they saved Chrisjen and Bobbie by exploding those rockets. Earth must come first. I guess I'm an Earthist.
|
|
#
?
Jun 2, 2018 22:57
|
|
|
Are there any good shots of the Behemoth from the outside, showing the newly mounted guns? I don't have good before and after images of the new warship.
|
|
#
?
Jun 2, 2018 23:04
|
|
|
Mu Zeta posted:I think the Martians are getting lazy and too reliant on their advanced tech. They got creamed by the secret protogen ships with the Donnager and that Martian lady said that Admiral Souther was kicking their rear end in the old piece of junk Agatha King. And Alex was impressed by some of the Naval combat strategy Holden devised when they saved Chrisjen and Bobbie by exploding those rockets. Earth must come first. I guess I'm an Earthist. The martian admiral lazing about the Donager with a starbucks coffee cup is one of my favourite bits of characterisation in the series. "I thought we would win" indeed!
|
|
#
?
Jun 2, 2018 23:08
|
|
|
IIRC it was "I didn't think we could lose", which says it even better.
|
|
#
?
Jun 3, 2018 00:09
|
|
|
martians are extra prideful and cocky and it’ll ruin them
|
|
#
?
Jun 3, 2018 00:24
|
|
|
Blackchamber posted:Was talking in another thread about hardpoints for military weapons... which I assume the Behemoth/Nauvoo wasn't built with. So mounting weapons bigger and more powerful than pdcs (with the recoil they'd have) on its existing frame... would be problematic wouldn't it? Yeah this is a large part of what I mean when I keep saying "the Behemoth was not built to be a warship." Military ships and weapons have very exacting and unique engineering standards, and just trying to weld a capital railgun onto the drum of a colony ship is usually going to end with the welds snapping after a few shots, if it even gets that many and you're lucky enough to have it just break the gun rather than try and snap off a chunk of hull with it. And that's if you can even fire it in the first place, what with the challenges of trying to power said railgun. Crazycryodude fucked around with this message at 00:57 on Jun 3, 2018 |
|
#
?
Jun 3, 2018 00:36
|
|
|
For Nauvoo’s design voyage, it could accelerate slowly and it wouldn’t greatly affect the trip length since they had to coast most of the way anyway. Engineering is all about using the minimum structure (+ safety factor) required for the foreseeable loads. Military vessels like Rocinante can murder their crew with g‐loads and stay intact. Behemoth almost certainly could not. Snapping the mounts is the best result anyone could hope for when the railgun fires. You really don’t want to find out what happens if the impulse is transferred to the structure.
|
|
#
?
Jun 3, 2018 00:48
|
|
|
Platystemon posted:For Nauvoo’s design voyage, it could accelerate slowly and it wouldn’t greatly affect the trip length since they had to coast most of the way anyway. The Navoo was accelerating at some insane rate when she was trying to crash into Eros and stayed intact. Besides, all she needs to do is accelerate higher than 0.5G and her belter crew is probably bleeding out of their eyes.
|
|
#
?
Jun 3, 2018 01:03
|
|
|
The Navou can handle lots of stress along its thrust axis, just like any other torch ship could. That doesn't mean it's built to handle forces outside of that. Warships aren't designed to just accelerate in a straight line, they're also built to handle violent manoeuvring, and to get shot at. Apply too much force to the Navou that isn't directly back to front and it'd most likely tear in half.
|
|
#
?
Jun 3, 2018 01:12
|
|
|
VagueRant posted:Also notes from the oft-ignored podcast: Please continue to toss highlights from the podcast in this thread since I already listen to too many and can't really add another show-specific one into the mix. On the blind cameraguy front I think they did a good job getting that across with how he was always holding his hands out in front of him, I'm pretty sure most people can put two and two together on that. And by most I mean like 51-60% since I still don't quite trust the audience in general to pick up on stuff that's left as subtext.
|
|
#
?
Jun 3, 2018 01:49
|
|
|
NowonSA posted:On the blind cameraguy front I think they did a good job getting that across with how he was always holding his hands out in front of him, I'm pretty sure most people can put two and two together on that. And by most I mean like 51-60% since I still don't quite trust the audience in general to pick up on stuff that's left as subtext. You could see scars or implants running the length of his fingers too.
|
|
#
?
Jun 3, 2018 03:08
|
|
|
logikv9 posted:martians are extra prideful and cocky and it’ll ruin them Wrong, Mars supremacy
|
|
#
?
Jun 3, 2018 03:47
|
|
|
If the hat wasn't taken to Venus how would the proto-molecule even know about the hat?
|
|
#
?
Jun 3, 2018 03:57
|
|
|
counterfeitsaint posted:The Navoo was accelerating at some insane rate when she was trying to crash into Eros and stayed intact. Besides, all she needs to do is accelerate higher than 0.5G and her belter crew is probably bleeding out of their eyes. belters do have access to acceleration drugs like everyone else
|
|
#
?
Jun 3, 2018 03:59
|
|
|
StashAugustine posted:belters do have access to acceleration drugs like everyone else Most can't afford the good stuff, though, and they're still more fragile than Inners on the same juice.
|
|
#
?
Jun 3, 2018 04:02
|
|
|
Oh for fucks sake, I'm rewatching S1 and who do I happen to notice on Tycho:
|
|
#
?
Jun 3, 2018 04:17
|
|
|
etalian posted:If the hat wasn't taken to Venus how would the proto-molecule even know about the hat? Miller's brain?
|
|
#
?
Jun 3, 2018 04:19
|
|
|
BlackJosh posted:Miller's brain? yeah, it picked his brain apart at a molecular level, it knows everything he knew.
|
|
#
?
Jun 3, 2018 04:22
|
|
|
etalian posted:If the hat wasn't taken to Venus how would the proto-molecule even know about the hat? They pull things from Miller's memory, so they probably pulled out the hat too.
|
|
#
?
Jun 3, 2018 04:23
|
|
|
TimWinter posted:Oh for fucks sake, I'm rewatching S1 and who do I happen to notice on Tycho: Oh neat, is it the same actress? I imagine she's playing a different character there, because I remember reading stuff about "casting Melba" between seasons 2 and 3. That'd be bad rear end if they planted her back in S1, though. 
|
|
#
?
Jun 3, 2018 04:27
|
|
|
TimWinter posted:Oh for fucks sake, I'm rewatching S1 and who do I happen to notice on Tycho: Who? Because that isn't Melba.
|
|
#
?
Jun 3, 2018 04:27
|
|
|
TimWinter posted:Oh for fucks sake, I'm rewatching S1 and who do I happen to notice on Tycho: Who is that supposed to be?
|
|
#
?
Jun 3, 2018 04:32
|
|
|
Grand Fromage posted:Who is that supposed to be? That's the chick from the thing who merked the old man
|
|
#
?
Jun 3, 2018 04:34
|
|
|
has it been confirmed that amos is bisexual? because drat that's my headcanon and would make me so happy. more lgbt representation would pretty much perfect this show for me
|
|
#
?
Jun 3, 2018 04:36
|
|
|
TimWinter posted:Oh for fucks sake, I'm rewatching S1 and who do I happen to notice on Tycho: Nope, that's not Nadine Nicole. That's Alli Chung.
|
|
#
?
Jun 3, 2018 04:38
|
|
|
Sure looks like Melba to me Edit: TIL I'm face blind. TimWinter fucked around with this message at 04:52 on Jun 3, 2018 |
|
#
?
Jun 3, 2018 04:39
|
|
|
TimWinter posted:Oh for fucks sake, I'm rewatching S1 and who do I happen to notice on Tycho: Not the same actress https://www.imdb.com/name/nm4148579/?ref_=tt_cl_t15 Really minor character that has a bit of a part in book 3 that's seemingly been cut entirely
|
|
#
?
Jun 3, 2018 04:40
|
|
|
Crazycryodude posted:Yeah this is a large part of what I mean when I keep saying "the Behemoth was not built to be a warship." Military ships and weapons have very exacting and unique engineering standards, and just trying to weld a capital railgun onto the drum of a colony ship is usually going to end with the welds snapping after a few shots, if it even gets that many and you're lucky enough to have it just break the gun rather than try and snap off a chunk of hull with it. And that's if you can even fire it in the first place, what with the challenges of trying to power said railgun. Shoulda just made it a super missile boat like those capital ships the soviets had.
|
|
#
?
Jun 3, 2018 04:43
|
|
|
Wow an actual All Look Same moment in the wild, always thought that was just a dumb joke.
|
|
#
?
Jun 3, 2018 04:43
|
|
|
Grand Fromage posted:Wow an actual All Look Same moment in the wild, always thought that was just a dumb joke. It's like my mom is posting in this thread
|
|
#
?
Jun 3, 2018 04:51
|
|
|
With every episode they don't feature Bobbi I just get more harder and torqued up at this point when she's back on screen I am just straight up gonna nut
|
|
#
?
Jun 3, 2018 04:53
|
|
|
I had forgotten they had Sam in season one though, before they combined her with Drummer.
|
|
#
?
Jun 3, 2018 04:54
|
|
|
Grand Fromage posted:Wow an actual All Look Same moment in the wild, always thought that was just a dumb joke. A lot (I mean, a looooooot. It's very common among all people) of people really just can't tell faces apart. Unless they're pairing it with race talk it might just be an accident. Without having the other picture to compare it to and being told it was the same actor, I believed it too.
|
|
#
?
Jun 3, 2018 04:58
|
|
|
|
| # ? Apr 26, 2024 07:13 |
|
|
Grand Fromage posted:I had forgotten they had Sam in season one though, before they combined her with Drummer. This whole next arc of ring stuff is going to be so full of characters who have been removed or combined with others, at least compared to what's been done so far. I'm sure they've worked out how to make the plot run without them, but I liked them in the books and I'll miss them here. It makes sense though, you only have room to fill out so many characters in so much time on T.V., and even the big hit book adaptations like Game of Thrones cut out huge, HUGE swaths of characters along the way.
|
|
#
?
Jun 3, 2018 05:07
|
|