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Sorry about your mom, Lowtax. The US healthcare system makes me sad.
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so we got the heist plan, we got the breaking bad plan, we got the flee to a developing nation for better healthcare plan, and we got the get gay married plan what other scenarios are more likely to succeed than having a reasonable healthcare system implemented? "No Mr, CEO. I can assure you that things will become very uncomfortable for you if you fail to agree." "Do you have my family hostage? Blackmail? God drat you this is terroristic" "Perhaps..." *drag on a cig* "...but we will get what we want. Release the medicines immediately or we hit you where it hurts!" *turns around an open laptop to face the suit* *fake OS terminal codes flash* *live feed of a masked goon holding a gun up to CEO's bank account & stock options* "mwahahahahaha!" "NOoooooooo! You bastards! You wouldn't!!" "oh but we would" *hands over a cut off piece of a yacht* "think carefully now"
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Jun 11, 2018 14:13
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Hell, I reckon if a good chunk of goons send $5 each that could pay for a year or two? If you're comfortable with it, get some banners up and so on to let people know. We easily spend that on a beer or some stupid poo poo and not even think about it.
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Jun 11, 2018 14:14
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Egbert Souse posted:Lowtax, you should get in touch with as many news organizations and lawmakers as you can to get the word about your mom out into the public. "The man responsible for the website that insulted Sarah Palin's autistic daughter, spawned 4chan.org, and was responsible for creating the urban legend that led 2 teens to commit murder...needs your help." "We now go live to Pam in Missouri. Pam?"
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Jun 11, 2018 14:19
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Who What Now posted:Has she tried not having leukemia? Yeah she's not very good at it.
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Jun 11, 2018 14:19
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Another thread the other day said somethingawful was worth like 50 million. Just sell some stock and use some of the stock sales to pay for the cancer.
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Jun 11, 2018 14:20
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Meanwhile the opposition party just got standing orders not to talk about single payer healthcare #TheResistance #DTA
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Jun 11, 2018 14:25
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I say it a lot but DSA is the way to go 🌹
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Jun 11, 2018 14:30
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I hear medical tourism is big this century
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Jun 11, 2018 14:35
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Sorry to hear that Taxman, american healthcare seems like a hellhole. I don't know what investigation phase your mom's meds are at, but I could suggest you look for the compound/drug name in clinicaltrials.gov, and see if theres an open study site where you could try to enroll her. Most investigation sites give their patients free consults (according to the study protocol), they administer the drug (For free!) and in case there's a medical emergency BIG PHARMA usually takes the bill. (She may get a placebo though, so tread lightly) Granted you did say her leukemia is pretty rare so she might have already finished a trial, but maybe you could find another one in Canada or Mexico and keep her treated!
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Jun 11, 2018 14:36
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SniperWoreConverse posted:I say it a lot but DSA is the way to go 🌹
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Jun 11, 2018 14:38
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im so happy to be swedish how have u guys not fuckin rebelled agains big pharma yet are americans just completely passive and complacent?
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Jun 11, 2018 14:38
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p much yeah. i mean so are swedes though so its not much of a difference on that front. anyhow, lowtax have you considered murdering executives before your neck gives out?
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Jun 11, 2018 14:41
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Fartbox posted:im so happy to be swedish America doesn't have a collective sense of identity. No one trusts their neighbors and there's a sizable portion of the population that are fascists (including pretty much the entire current administration). It's really hard to get anyone to organize and go out in the streets under those conditions.
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Jun 11, 2018 14:42
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Fartbox posted:im so happy to be swedish https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8T9fk7NpgIU
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Jun 11, 2018 14:42
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Tbh though I am sorry for your moms tragic predicament and hope you both get as much time together as you need
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Jun 11, 2018 14:43
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There Bias Two posted:America doesn't have a collective sense of identity. No one trusts their neighbors and there's a sizable portion of the population that are fascists (including pretty much the entire current administration). It's really hard to get anyone to organize and go out in the streets under those conditions. Yeah America is as racist and corrupt as the worst shithole countries in this world but we do a good job at pretending it doesn’t exist.
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Jun 11, 2018 14:45
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Fartbox posted:im so happy to be swedish NPR is considered the most "leftwing" of tolerable mainstream opinion in the United States. Not once in all my commuting have I heard them talk positively about single payer proposals. On the day that bernie sanders got a dozen or so senate cosponsors for his medicare for all bill, NPR did a segment covering this news. The segment was a discussion between two people opposed to the bill talking about why the bill was unrealistic and too expensive. Not once did they bring up how almost every other developed country in the world does their healthcare and how they are on average half the cost with generally better outcomes. They did not have someone on to talk positively about the bill. NPR is a polite fox news.
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Jun 11, 2018 14:49
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Fartbox posted:im so happy to be swedish Poor American getting raped in the rear end by a rich man: "One day I'll be the one raping asses."
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Jun 11, 2018 14:52
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On the other hand, I have heard NPR talk about increasing the penalty for not having garbage tier health insurance to save obamacare. I've also heard them gush positively about "portable benefits packages" from startups to solve lack of healthcare coverage for uber drivers and those working in the "gig economy". Fine people for not having healthcare coverage. A fantastic liberal idea 
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Jun 11, 2018 14:53
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NightshadeGenitals posted:Meanwhile the opposition party just got standing orders not to talk about single payer healthcare #TheResistance #DTA https://twitter.com/kenklippenstein/status/1005650469581197312
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Jun 11, 2018 14:55
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comedyblissoption posted:
It's worse than that, it's literally a fine for not giving your money to the private companies that wrote the bill.
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Jun 11, 2018 14:58
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It was the least bad option that could have got passed ie it slowed but not stopped the rates at which premiums were riding. Healthcare still sucks. We could have had single payer like a sane country but Lieberman scuttled it. No pre-existing conditions clause was worth it.
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Jun 11, 2018 15:04
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How else do you expect the pharmaceutical money to recoup their money from R&D if there's so few cases of this rare disease it makes economic sense to charge a lot for cures to rarer diseases
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Jun 11, 2018 15:05
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Egbert Souse posted:Lowtax, you should get in touch with as many news organizations and lawmakers as you can to get the word about your mom out into the public. I think everyone know the system sucks by now.
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Jun 11, 2018 15:06
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Fartbox posted:im so happy to be swedish they're stupid and easily mislead by religion or social dogwhistling, a poor person will aggressively vote against their own interest if they think god is watching.
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Jun 11, 2018 15:11
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Ein cooler Typ posted:How else do you expect the pharmaceutical money to recoup their money from R&D if there's so few cases of this rare disease According to BBC News, in 2013 pharmaceutical companies enjoyed higher average profit margins than carmakers, oil and gas companies and media companies. Only banks had a profit margin comparable to Big Pharma, but Pfizer’s 42% profit margin blew every other company out of the water, prompting even a member of its own industry to say, “I wouldn’t be able to justify [those types of margins].”
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Jun 11, 2018 15:12
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What's the name of the med(s)?
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Jun 11, 2018 15:15
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maybe you can buy the pills in Mexico or the dark web instead
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Jun 11, 2018 15:17
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Gumbel2Gumbel posted:According to BBC News, in 2013 pharmaceutical companies enjoyed higher average profit margins than carmakers, oil and gas companies and media companies. Only banks had a profit margin comparable to Big Pharma, but Pfizer’s 42% profit margin blew every other company out of the water, prompting even a member of its own industry to say, “I wouldn’t be able to justify [those types of margins].” Also, profit margin is not markup so it gets worse than that. To get a profit margin of 42% the markup multiplier is 72.41%. So on a cost of a billion dollars they make 724 million in profit. Not sure why I quoted my own post instead of editing, too much coffee I guess.
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Jun 11, 2018 15:19
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Im glad there are companies investing in cures for rare diseases at all. Even if they are lining their pockets. Greed is powering something positive. Better to be poor and alive than dead.
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Jun 11, 2018 15:22
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Otto Von Jizzmark posted:Im glad there are companies investing in cures for rare diseases at all. Even if they are lining their pockets. Greed is powering something positive. It's the goal of most businesses to make as much money as possible, it's the job of the government to regulate it.
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Jun 11, 2018 15:29
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Do they have a money back guarantee?
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Jun 11, 2018 15:40
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Otto Von Jizzmark posted:Im glad there are companies investing in cures for rare diseases at all. Even if they are lining their pockets. Greed is powering something positive. Is there anything more pitiful then a grateful slave?
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Jun 11, 2018 15:41
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if you have family in other countries and the ability to move somewhere with sane healthcare do so. as mentioned healthcare tourism is an option. alternatively a number of countries are relatively easy to move to if you come from the “1st world” and you don’t need much to live off of. seriously consider these things. if none of these are an option absolutely set up a gofundme or some poo poo though
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Jun 11, 2018 15:45
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Maybe your mother should have thought about how insanely hosed up our healthcare system is before she got cancer? Huh, did you ever think about that, smart guy?! But seriously, that sucks man. Very sorry to hear. Make a GoFundMe; even if your mom won't take the money, at least GoFundMe will make a few thousand dollars off of your mother's ailing health.
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Jun 11, 2018 15:53
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accrue debt and flee to a country hostile to America
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Jun 11, 2018 15:57
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sell your bionic spine.
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Jun 11, 2018 15:59
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Otto Von Jizzmark posted:Im glad there are companies investing in cures for rare diseases at all. Even if they are lining their pockets. Greed is powering something positive. But the poor can't afford it and will die? idgi Also, pharma should be regulated to invest in rare drugs using profits from their wildly popular and profitable drugs that a ton of people take/pay for. Not fleecing the exceedingly unlucky few.
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Gumbel2Gumbel posted:Also, profit margin is not markup so it gets worse than that. To get a profit margin of 42% the markup multiplier is 72.41%. And this is in the current state where around half their money is spend on marketing costs. Not R&D, but just marketing.
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