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resurgam40 posted:
Sounds like we should kill Dietrich's nephew too.
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Jack2142 posted:Sounds like we should kill Dietrich's nephew too. Depends on how he reacts to his uncle.
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Colander Crotch posted:It is always OK to fireball a Nazi. Nah, sometimes you need the mana efficiency of just using magic missiles instead
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Magic? Please. The proper way to skin a Nazi is with a knife.
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I'm againt Minority Report style precog punishment, but I might be swayed if it meant we could interdict 15 year old edgelords thinking they're being loving funny.
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One of the rumored leaders of the Alamos 20k terrorist group, which is a level up the hate hierarchy from Humanis, was code named The Nazi by people in the shadows in the data dumps they had on him. That's because he was a German who got his start in the neo-Nazi underground before he led his wing into Humanis. He was later rumored to have been killed by his protege, codenamed The Doctor, because he was apparently the second coming of Mengele.
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GhostStalker posted:One of the rumored leaders of the Alamos 20k terrorist group, which is a level up the hate hierarchy from Humanis, was code named The Nazi by people in the shadows in the data dumps they had on him. That's because he was a German who got his start in the neo-Nazi underground before he led his wing into Humanis. He was later rumored to have been killed by his protege, codenamed The Doctor, because he was apparently the second coming of Mengele. I expected better from you Shadowrun than "But...what when the bad guys are NAZIS?" Not even some insane brand of of futuristic fascists. Just plain ol' nazis. Do we get "Cyber-Stalin", too, somewhere? He infects the IT infrastructure of the free world with the evils of data communism.
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OutofSight posted:I expected better from you Shadowrun than "But...what when the bad guys are NAZIS?" Not even some insane brand of of futuristic fascists. Just plain ol' nazis. Nazism making a comeback in the future was surprisingly prescient for something started in the 1980s.
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OutofSight posted:I expected better from you Shadowrun than "But...what when the bad guys are NAZIS?" Not even some insane brand of of futuristic fascists. Just plain ol' nazis.
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Xander77 posted:Are you posting from some better timeline? Please let us know how to cross over. habeasdorkus posted:Nazism making a comeback in the future was surprisingly prescient for something started in the 1980s.  
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habeasdorkus posted:Nazism making a comeback in the future was surprisingly prescient for something started in the 1980s. May be just me. I only use the term "nazi" in the historical context with national socialism germany, the NSDAP and Adolf Hitler. Last time i checked these don't really resurfaced or are still pretty dead. Let me check the international broadcast of "Deutsche Welle". No swastikas flags flapping in the skies there either. So the general idea is all nazis are fascists, but not all fascists are nazis. Of course it is pretty common to use the term "nazi" (or #nazi) more along the lines to decribe the general resurfacing of fascists and fascist ideology along Eco's "Ur Fascism". Then i guess "habeasdorkus would be right. "Videogame nazis" (together make video game soviets and zombies) make still fantastic antagonists, though. Striking imagery, powerful militarists (good for shooter genre), but ultimately flawed and such such a delicious nonredeemable hate sinks (just look at some posts above me). Do you want to shoot a lot of men in your shoot-men game and don't to humanize the anatagonists too much and force second-guessing player actions? Just add nazis. I think we should just shoot Dietrich's nazi-nephew. Better don't take any chances. OutofSight fucked around with this message at 18:47 on Jun 15, 2018 |
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I mean, they're not singing Deutscheland Uber Alles, but they've totally started saying "blood and soil" again and we've got reactionary/fascist ethnonationalists all over the world gaining steam. So, they're not technically Nazis but they're pretty down with Nazi iconography and racial ideology.
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God dammit. I wish we didn't have to deal with this poo poo for the next 10-20 years.
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OutofSight posted:Not Nazis, just neo-nazis. Checkmate. 
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OutofSight posted:So the general idea is all nazis are fascists, but not all fascists are nazis.
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habeasdorkus posted:I mean, they're not singing Deutscheland Uber Alles, but they've totally started saying "blood and soil" again and we've got reactionary/fascist ethnonationalists all over the world gaining steam. So, they're not technically Nazis but they're pretty down with Nazi iconography and racial ideology. They literally chanted "Hail Victory! Hail Trump!" Look, if it throws Nazi salutes like a nazi, argues for ethnic cleansing like a Nazi, and chants Nazi slogans like a Nazi, I'm pretty comfortable with calling them Nazis.
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Neo-Nazis are honestly worse than the originals. Whole lotta people got on the Nazi bandwagon without knowing exactly where it was going, but these guys have the full benefit of hindsight and are like "Yeah that was good, let's do that again."
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At least quote my shitposting corrrectly: quote:Not Nazis. Neo-nazis, white nationalists, white supremacists, alt-right etc. Precision of language and historical context. And spare me the "checkmate". This was never about "winning" some kind of discussion. The smiley is still a fair response, though. PMush Perfect posted:Avatar / post combination For a standard "stupid newbie" avatar it is rather uncanny in this context.
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OutofSight posted:At least quote my shitposting corrrectly:
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I've always wondered why Maxim cries about being low on ammo and so on after just one tiny fight. Didn't he bring any spare mags at all? It's barely more than the first group of security guards you need to gun down when a run goes... well, normal. Maybe he's representing the dnd character who demands the party rests after every single room in the dungeon. 
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kaosdrachen posted:They literally chanted "Hail Victory! Hail Trump!" Hey, I'm down with calling them Nazis. It's Out Of Sight who is making the reasonable point that language matters and specificity matters. I'm more for calling them whatever name hurts their ego most. I'm also down with whatever Dietrich thinks we should do.
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Poil posted:I've always wondered why Maxim cries about being low on ammo and so on after just one tiny fight. Didn't he bring any spare mags at all? It's barely more than the first group of security guards you need to gun down when a run goes... well, normal. Maybe he's representing the dnd character who demands the party rests after every single room in the dungeon. He's a smuggler, not a shadowrunner. If things come to an actual shooting firefight they've already gone horribly wrong.
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Do you people want the mod to come down on what has been a great thread so far?
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Hey guys, the only fun derails are whenever that guy Kanfy posts.Poil posted:I've always wondered why Maxim cries about being low on ammo and so on after just one tiny fight. Didn't he bring any spare mags at all? It's barely more than the first group of security guards you need to gun down when a run goes... well, normal. Maybe he's representing the dnd character who demands the party rests after every single room in the dungeon.
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Okay, no more nazi chat. I get that it's very relevant in many ways right now but this thread clearly cannot handle it. These forums have no shortage of places for discussing current events and the sorry state of modern society, but this is not one of them. This place is for enjoying fictional misery as a break and distraction from the real stuff, which is actually pretty cyberpunk in itself when you think about it. I'll say it one last time: keep the focus on the Sixth World, and keep it civil. Otherwise I'll have no choice but to lock this thread until the next update, which I think would be a drat shame considering how good it usually is.
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Thank you.
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It's for the best.
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So. Videogames on the sixth world. Illuminate me.
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Siegkrow posted:So. Videogames on the sixth world. It's all about the NERPS man.
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Xander77 posted:I appreciate how D skips right from "my nephew just got mixed up with the wrong crowd due to specific circumstances" to "now let's go kill a bunch of Nazi youths that obviously were born to be fascist thugs". I always thought this was because the developers wanted to be very, very sure that you, the player, understood that he was not down with Nazis just because he wanted you to save one of them. Dietrich is a scary-looking bald german guy, and this mission can be done early, so it's possible you don't have a real good handle on who he is yet and fall prey to popular stereotypes. (Because people playing this game might not know that much about anarchists or punks, either.) Having him lean extra-hard on how much he hates Humanis helps counter that impression. Also, Dietrich is the best. Among other reasons, this LP is great because it lets me sort of vicariously meet him again through the other people who haven't played it before.
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Siegkrow posted:Do you people want the mod to come down on what has been a great thread so far? I was just catching up on the thread and my cursor had begun to hover over the "probation" button, but it looks like the OP has commented upon it. Listen to Kanfy or it will be pressed. If this thread gets locked, the offending posters are going to take a break.
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Siegkrow posted:So. Videogames on the sixth world. It's much better to talk about videogames in the Sixth World. As you might imagine, full sense immersion VR experience offers some pretty incredible opportunities. For profit. Because they're usually designed to range from mildly to extremely addictive. They can also cause brain problems! One book segment covers a corp drone who got PTSD from playing his magic WWII MMO sim with the pain settings set to max. And of course, there's a ton of cheating. A lot of decker's can get some decent low risk side work hacking a game for one group players or another with too much money. Finding exploits, writing cheats, sabatoging the competition, etc.
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Of course, our benevolent corporate overlords would never dream of employing addictive neurological stimulus in their entertainment products. That sounds like technomancer conspiracy talk, consumer!
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Siegkrow posted:Nerf guns? Nah man, NERPS. New Exciting Retail ProductS. The flashest graphics, the smoothest sound, you have to keep up with the trends man. Seriously though, the Entertainment industry is one of the few things that definitely improved in the sixth world. Capitalist hellscape it may be, but the megacorps are amazing at the whole bread and circuses thing to keep people distracted from what they're actually up to. Stroth fucked around with this message at 20:26 on Jun 16, 2018 |
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paragon1 posted:It's much better to talk about videogames in the Sixth World. ME ESL, ME HAVE HARD TIME APPLYING IN/ON. paragon1 posted:For profit. Because they're usually designed to range from mildly to extremely addictive. They can also cause brain problems! Bud, have you seen the WoW forums? MMO-C? Our own beloved "wowplayers.txt" thread? That poo poo already happens.
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paragon1 posted:Because they're usually designed to range from mildly to extremely addictive. They can also cause brain problems! One book segment covers a corp drone who got PTSD from playing his magic WWII MMO sim with the pain settings set to max. My dude let me tell about this thing called Star Citizen
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I basically bought an account just so that I could say how much I'm enjoying your LPs.
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