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xarph
Jun 18, 2001




LOL 2013

The nice touch was using my email signature by taking the lowest signature in the thread.

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Invalid Validation
Jan 13, 2008




I kinda wonder how much they’ll care about the tables that aren’t making them money anymore. They update and it breaks tables then what’s the incentive to fix it?

Terminally Bored
Oct 31, 2011

Twenty-five dollars and a six pack to my name

Invalid Validation posted:

I kinda wonder how much they’ll care about the tables that aren’t making them money anymore. They update and it breaks tables then what’s the incentive to fix it?

Probably as much as they care about Stern PA.

Tayter Swift
Nov 18, 2002

Pillbug
Honestly I don't see Farsighted continuing as a business after their main source of income is cutoff. I'm sure they're getting a bump from this not-even-a-sale but it's not like anyone's using that shitshow of a Stern app.

Tato
Jun 19, 2001

DIRECTIVE 236: Promote pro-social values
Yeah. I have all the tables in iOS and Steam but that's from years of waiting on sales and whatnot. I expect no continued support of anything from Farsight, pretty much treating this as "get Pinball Arcade before it's dead."

The Kins
Oct 2, 2004
I dunno if it'll be a full-on application MERGE or whatever, but it sounds like their next step is releasing Stern tables in base TPA. After that, though? God only knows.

What a long, weird journey it's been.

FishBulb
Mar 29, 2003

Marge, I'd like to be alone with the sandwich for a moment.

Are you going to eat it?

...yes...
It seems weird me to that FarSight would just lose the Williams license straight up. Doesn’t it seem likely that someone else has it going forward? Who though?

The Kins
Oct 2, 2004

FishBulb posted:

It seems weird me to that FarSight would just lose the Williams license straight up. Doesn’t it seem likely that someone else has it going forward? Who though?
Both Williams and Bally are owned by a slots and gambling company that just... might not be interested in these foolish, childish videogame things on account of slots and gambling companies being bizarrely uninterested in free money.

FishBulb
Mar 29, 2003

Marge, I'd like to be alone with the sandwich for a moment.

Are you going to eat it?

...yes...
I mean that’s possible but I dunno

algebra testes
Mar 5, 2011


Lipstick Apathy
I thought WMS was bought by someone else who refused to extend the contract?

The Kins
Oct 2, 2004

algebra testes posted:

I thought WMS was bought by someone else who refused to extend the contract?
Yes, by Scientific Games, the aforementioned slots and gambling company that also owns Bally.

King Vidiot
Feb 17, 2007

You think you can take me at Satan's Hollow? Go 'head on!
They license out Bally and Williams tables for re-release too don't they? Just thinking that maybe they're under the wrongheaded assumption that having virtual tables will make people less likely to buy the Special Edition physical tables or whatever?

I mean it sounds stupid but we're not dealing with logical people here.

The Kins
Oct 2, 2004

King Vidiot posted:

They license out Bally and Williams tables for re-release too don't they? Just thinking that maybe they're under the wrongheaded assumption that having virtual tables will make people less likely to buy the Special Edition physical tables or whatever?

I mean it sounds stupid but we're not dealing with logical people here.
The first piece of news I could find about Chicago's Medieval Madness Remake was from before the purchase in November 2014. It's entirely possible they did a long-term licensing deal with the old owners like how the Farsight situation has unfolded.

Inferior Third Season
Jan 15, 2005

King Vidiot posted:

They license out Bally and Williams tables for re-release too don't they? Just thinking that maybe they're under the wrongheaded assumption that having virtual tables will make people less likely to buy the Special Edition physical tables or whatever?

I mean it sounds stupid but we're not dealing with logical people here.
It's likely the pinball rights were just a part of the package when Scientific Games acquired WMS. Slot machines are a multi-billion dollar business, and pinball... is not. They probably just don't feel like dealing with the legal and contractual headaches for what they consider pocket change. Even selling the pinball rights is probably not worth the effort to them. They can just let it die without it affecting their bottom line.

King Vidiot
Feb 17, 2007

You think you can take me at Satan's Hollow? Go 'head on!
Ah, I thought the slot machine company bought out Williams/Bally way earlier. I just remember reading the wiki page where it said they moved into slot machines back in like the 90's/00's so I assumed the buyout happened around then.

mattfl
Aug 27, 2004

You guys who haven't checked out visual pinball in a while should check this out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2BelDzptfg

Yes that's actual gameplay of an upcoming release of Attack from Mars!

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

mattfl posted:

You guys who haven't checked out visual pinball in a while should check this out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2BelDzptfg

Yes that's actual gameplay of an upcoming release of Attack from Mars!

That looks crazy real. What is this?

mattfl
Aug 27, 2004

Zaphod42 posted:

That looks crazy real. What is this?

Visual Pinball 10. A lot of tables are being redone now because people have figured out how to do real high resolution/realistic looking builds using the newer betas of VPX.

I can’t wait to put this one in my cabinet.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

mattfl posted:

Visual Pinball 10. A lot of tables are being redone now because people have figured out how to do real high resolution/realistic looking builds using the newer betas of VPX.

I can’t wait to put this one in my cabinet.

What's the easiest way to find cabinets to download?

mattfl
Aug 27, 2004

Zaphod42 posted:

What's the easiest way to find cabinets to download?

When I say cabinet I mean I built a full size virtual pinball cabinet.

You need to download visual pinball 10.5 or later and then the tables are easy enough to find.

Note: Visual pinball is not the most user friendly thing to setup and get running.

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

💥💥🤯💥💥
Gotta nuke something

Zaphod42 posted:

What's the easiest way to find cabinets to download?

VP Forums used to be the main site for Visual Pinball downloads. As time went on though and various groups got pissy over forum drama, perceived lack of gratitude, etc, etc, then a bunch of splinter sites formed. The main sites hosting tables are:

VP Forums
MonsterBash Pincab
VP Universe
VPinball

mattfl
Aug 27, 2004

Bloody Hedgehog posted:

VP Forums used to be the main site for Visual Pinball downloads. As time went on though and various groups got pissy over forum drama, perceived lack of gratitude, etc, etc, then a bunch of splinter sites formed. The main sites hosting tables are:

VP Forums
MonsterBash Pincab
VP Universe
VPinball

Monsterbash is where you'll find the Attack from Mars when it's released fyi.

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

💥💥🤯💥💥
Gotta nuke something

mattfl posted:

Monsterbash is where you'll find the Attack from Mars when it's released fyi.

Yeah, despite VP Forums still sort of being the mother site, Monsterbash Pincab seems to be the place where the best table makers are releasing their stuff.

Luckily I managed to snag their Ghostbusters table off of there before it was pulled, after Farsight got all litigious.

mattfl
Aug 27, 2004

Bloody Hedgehog posted:

Yeah, despite VP Forums still sort of being the mother site, Monsterbash Pincab seems to be the place where the best table makers are releasing their stuff.

Luckily I managed to snag their Ghostbusters table off of there before it was pulled, after Farsight got all litigious.

As did I, as well as the update :)

hot date tonight!
Jan 13, 2009


Slippery Tilde
Is there anywhere left to grab the Ghostbusters files? I didn't think farsight would bother with a takedown since you have to buy their table for the dll files anyway

KTS
Jun 22, 2004

I wax my rocket every day!
Nah, you didn't need to buy the table for the dll, you just had to download the game from Steam. There's nowhere that will officially host the file now after the takedown, got PM's?

hot date tonight!
Jan 13, 2009


Slippery Tilde
Oh dang. That makes the takedown more understandable, I wish they could compromise somehow though. I do have PMs!

Discount Viscount
Jul 9, 2010

FIND THE FISH!
I went ahead and bought seasons 3-6 on PS3 tonight like a big idiot who's bad with money and holy poo poo downloading everything was a drat trainwreck.

Doggles
Apr 22, 2007

https://twitter.com/PinballArcade/status/1012403895417491456

The other systems should still have a couple more days of availability.

bewbies
Sep 23, 2003

Fun Shoe
So I'm FINALLY starting to figure out multipliers and stuff on Star Wars, thanks largely to some guy who kind of showed me how it works. We played a couple of games yesterday...I was definitely better at making shots than he was, but he managed the stupid multipliers so well he kicked my rear end.

Does anyone 1) have a good approach to not draining off of the target bank, and 2) a good sequence to max multipliers without having to constantly adjust things?

My sequence now is to use Han, +5 tie fighters, get tie fighter hurry up, load up hoth, load up multipliers to 20x, shoot hoth and do the asteroid field, then do the same with video mode (hopefully with a 40x multiplier), usually with a tie fighter multiball in there somewhere. This usually puts me over a billion, but I ALWAYS lose a ball or two to the stupid bank DTFM.

kazmeyer
Jul 26, 2001

'Cause we're the good guys.

They just yanked the Pinball Arcade season packs from Steam, but you can still buy them if you have money in your steam wallet and buy them from inside the game itself.

AntifaSupersoldier
Jul 30, 2003

Reality is what you can get away with
Hell Gem
Pinball Arcade got an update for PS4 to version 1.26 and they took off the Bally and Williams tables. They now have...

Gottlieb pack 1: Big Hurt, Genie, Gladiators, Haunted House, Lights Camera Action, Victory - $9.99
Gottlieb pack 2: Wipeout, Rescue 911, Bone Busters, Black Hole, El Dorado City of Gold, Goin' Nuts - $9.99
Gottlieb pack 3: Teed Off, Cue Ball Wizard, Class of 1812, Cactus Jacks, TX-Sector - $8.99
Gottlieb pack 4: Big Shot, Centigrade 37, Central Park, El Dorado, Jacks Open - $8.99

Stern Pack 1: Flight 2000, Mary Shelley's Frakenstein, Ripley's Believe it or Not!, Starship Troopers, Star Trek Vengeance Premium, AC/DC Premium - $19.99
Stern Pack 2: High Roller Casino, Last Action Hero, Harley Davidson 3rd Edition, Phantom of the Opera, Mustang Premium, Ghostbusters Premium - $19.99
Alvin G Pack: Al's Garage Band Goes on a World Tour, Pistol Poker - $7.99
Dr. Who Master of Time - $9.99

and Custom Balls: Glow ball pack $1.99, Dr. Who ball Pack $1.99, Gottlieb Ball Pack $1.99, Gottlieb Retro Pack $0.99, Stern Ball Pack 1 $1.99, Farsight ball pack $1.99

So it looks deserted now. I searched for the old tables on the PSN store and was able to buy The Getaway and the Pinbot/Centaur pack.

Awesome!
Oct 17, 2008

Ready for adventure!


lol $10 for their terrible dr who remake

LawfulWaffle
Mar 11, 2014

Well, that aligns with the vibes I was getting. Which was, like, "normal" kinda vibes.
So they already folded Stern’s Star Trek, AC/DC, and Mustang into the regular TPA client? I wonder if they’re available on the Steam one, too. It’s not much help to me, Ghostbusters runs like crap on my laptop and I can’t imagine the other tables being any better.

Awesome!
Oct 17, 2008

Ready for adventure!


there is a fix for ghostbusters but you have to do it every time you run the game. you set your processor affinity for pinball arcade to 1 core and then back to normal and it clears up the choppiness.

also i didnt notice the new sterns in there. i guess if i want them i need to buy them individually through the game since i already have 90% of each bundle

Tony Phillips
Feb 9, 2006
Finally cracked about bought seasons 6 and 7.

Immediately started it up and played Jacks Open.

Murderist
Aug 30, 2013
I spent like 40 dollars on Pinball Arcade tables recently where if there weren't a deadline I would've strung that out over years, possibly decades.. So, I dunno, losing the license SUCKS but, like, maybe it's good for Farsight? If I owned that company I'd take the windfall and bail out and live comfortably and not give a fuckall.

also here's my hot take from a person who has spent an inordinate amount of time considering what tables to buy before they're gone: Adams Family, Star Trek: TNG and Twilight Zone suck rear end.

Magic Hate Ball
May 6, 2007

ha ha ha!
you've already paid for this

Murderist posted:

also here's my hot take from a person who has spent an inordinate amount of time considering what tables to buy before they're gone: Adams Family, Star Trek: TNG and Twilight Zone suck rear end.

I am coming over and kicking your rear end.

King Vidiot
Feb 17, 2007

You think you can take me at Satan's Hollow? Go 'head on!

Murderist posted:

Adams Family, Star Trek: TNG and Twilight Zone suck rear end.

What in the actual, holy, everliving gently caress is wrong with you man. I mean I'm lukewarm on TNG but got-drat.

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breaks
May 12, 2001

Addams family is a legit bad game with the magnets in because playing it in a try hard fashion is boring as gently caress, but putting twilight zone on that list is unforgivable :mad:

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