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Mind_Taker posted:Carolina needs some scoring talent and goaltending. de Haan delivers on zero of those needs. Might be grabbing him so they can unload one of their D-men to address those needs (or one of 'em, anyways)
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Jul 4, 2018 03:16
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Also Canes have to be dangling Faulk... cause Hamilton/Faulk/de Haan/Slavin/Pesce is a kick rear end top five.
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Jul 4, 2018 03:19
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You can either have the very recent 3rd overall pick who has progressed as hoped or a 22 year old who sucks poo poo and shouldnt be in the NHL. HMMMMMM
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Jul 4, 2018 03:19
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Want to watch anime with Dubas.
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Brodeurs Nanny posted:If the Devils don't add anybody of significance, they're missing the playoffs next year. Same except the Rangers and I’m glad of it Lose for Hughes
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Jul 4, 2018 03:33
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Jamwad Hilder posted:Carolina is gonna be good! The Canes are going nowhere with their goaltending.
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Jul 4, 2018 04:00
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Friendly reminder goaltenders are voodoo.
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Why couldn't you do that Hexy? I'd have to ask the same question of Stan Bowman. That's not a bad price for De Haan and he'd have shored up the Hawks defense far more effectively than the combo of Cam Ward (3 million) and Brandon Manning ($2.25 million). They could have just stuck with Anton Forsberg as the backup and saved a lot of money for the same performance, and Manning seems like a #7 on his best days 
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Jul 4, 2018 04:11
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iospace posted:Friendly reminder goaltenders are voodoo. usually once it's established that they suck, goaltenders don't become good again. Tim Thomas excepted
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Jul 4, 2018 04:14
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Man that De Haan contract is like a Honda Civic, so god drat beautifully reasonable
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Ummagumma posted:I'd have to ask the same question of Stan Bowman. That's not a bad price for De Haan and he'd have shored up the Hawks defense far more effectively than the combo of Cam Ward (3 million) and Brandon Manning ($2.25 million). They could have just stuck with Anton Forsberg as the backup and saved a lot of money for the same performance, and Manning seems like a #7 on his best days Manning didn’t bother me as much as others in FAS, he makes some dumb mistakes and def is not going farther than 3rd line defense, but there are def worse defensemen or there.
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Levitate posted:usually once it's established that they suck, goaltenders don't become good again. Tim Thomas excepted Craig Anderson also, who seems to do the weird thing of one good year, one bad year
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Jul 4, 2018 04:23
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Craig Anderson also, who seems to do the weird thing of one good year, one bad year
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Jul 4, 2018 04:30
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https://twitter.com/NHL_AaronWard/status/1014351678903119877
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Jul 4, 2018 04:40
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boy leafs fans are gonna be mad when Matthews tears his ACL/MCL/PCL next preseason and Tavares gets a matt cooke special
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Jul 4, 2018 04:41
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Supposedly Darling is in better shape at this point in the summer. Also, we will trade Faulk for a center. That's my prediction. This team leads me to drink.
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https://twitter.com/NicholsOnHockey/status/1014289086423576576 What. Jar-mo Spe-cial?
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Vargatron posted:Supposedly Darling is in better shape at this point in the summer. Faulk for Hayes? e: ehhh nevermind. Faulk is 26 and only signed for 2 more years and isn't worth a big commitment after that.
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Vargatron posted:Also, we will trade Faulk for a center. That's my prediction. Kilza posted:Somehow Chiarelli's boner for Lucic will result in him getting Justin Faulk for just Lucic with no salary retained.
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Jul 4, 2018 04:56
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We need a 1C, so expect Faulk plus prospect plus pick going outbound.
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Jul 4, 2018 04:58
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I was tempted to call BS on that EK to Columbus Tweet but it's coming (indirectly) from Friedman and I can't figure why they'd do it. Do you trade Bread Man now for EK and let Melnyk piss him away (though that doesn't fill an 82-point hole which just developed)? But, that said: Karlsson-Jones Werenski-Murray Savard-Nutsack  e- One CBJ blog suggests some combination of Abramov+Milano+Murray+2019 1st+2020 2nd. CBJSprague24 fucked around with this message at 05:10 on Jul 4, 2018 |
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Jul 4, 2018 04:59
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a false posted:i am fully aware that no one will agree with me on this but the matt martin trade kicks rear end for the islanders. he won’t win them a single game but i have come to realize that he is the living avatar of the platonic ideal of islanders hockey, which is to be an ineffectual assembly of losers who exist only to make their opponents’ victories pyrrhic. even during their dynasty run they were bolstered by a parade of goons and their winning ways were only possible because that worked in that era’s nhl. Sir, this is the order window at All American burger.
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Jul 4, 2018 04:59
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grack posted:The Canes are going nowhere with their goaltending. IN THEORY Darling and Mrazek should be a nice combo behind that D, which is basically Preds East with Hamilton/de Haan/Slavin/Faulk, but who knows.
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Jul 4, 2018 05:06
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Jamwad Hilder posted:IN THEORY Darling and Mrazek should be a nice combo behind that D, which is basically Preds East with Hamilton/de Haan/Slavin/Faulk, but who knows. Expecting one goalie to get his poo poo together after regressing is asking a lot, asking two....man, I dunno.
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Jul 4, 2018 05:08
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Canes D was real good last year too and their goaltending still sucked
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I'd be up for trading Heiskanen to get Karlsson.. obviously. The argument not to do that seems to be simply that everyone figures that Ottawa is screwed and you can squeeze them because nobody will offer anything good? Heiskenen is a player who the consensus all along has been that he doesn't have good offensive potential at the NHL. Various prospect rating services made statements when asked about how he compared to this year's draft that he would have been a 5-10 pick. The hype all along with him has been his supposedly otherworldly defensive acumen, comparable to a young Nicklas Lidstrom.. Not really of course, but they want to make the point that he has amazing defensive instincts for his age. I'm wary of prospects that have that profile, because you really can't tell what potential level of play he's going to reach based off of that.. offense is easier to project into the future. so go ahead and send Heiskenen, Devin Shore, and a couple draft picks to Ottawa mr Nill. Get this done please 
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Yes, I too would like my team to trade a good prospect and a bunch of spare parts for one of the best players in the league.
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boyd gordon also had otherworldly defensive acumen and nobody cares except me
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grack posted:Yes, I too would like my team to trade a good prospect and a bunch of spare parts for one of the best players in the league. Alex Chiasson, Alex Guptill, Nicholas Paul, and a 2nd + Loui Eriksson, Reilly Smith, Joe Morrow, and Matt Fraser.
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CBJSprague24 posted:I was tempted to call BS on that EK to Columbus Tweet but it's coming (indirectly) from Friedman and I can't figure why they'd do it. Do you trade Bread Man now for EK and let Melnyk piss him away (though that doesn't fill an 82-point hole which just developed)? But, that said: Come on now. 2 righties, 2 lefties, and an inverted pairing. Your blatant disregard for handedness offends me
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Their goaltending is still absolute rear end, though. They need to address that, they should be/have been on the phone with SOMEONE looking to unload a solid goalie, although that list is probably pretty small. Although I can certainly see why they didn't make any serious effort to get Grubauer, since they tried that whole "Get a guy with a good track record as a backup" thing already. I think the Caps weren't interested in unloading him in the division either so that was another factor.
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Duckman2008 posted:Manning didn’t bother me as much as others in FAS, he makes some dumb mistakes and def is not going farther than 3rd line defense, but there are def worse defensemen or there. Manning would be fine if he was used as the 5/6/7 D he actually is, not used as Hakstol's binkey
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grack posted:Yes, I too would like my team to trade a good prospect and a bunch of spare parts for one of the best players in the league. well that is apparently the sticking point at this time. Ottawa wants Heiskenen, Dallas doesn't want to give up more than Honka **also I might note that the current consensus amongst all Dallas fans on twitter is that Karlsson isn't worth giving up Heiskenen for, despite how obviously good that is for Dallas 
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Duckman2008 posted:Manning didn’t bother me as much as others in FAS, he makes some dumb mistakes and def is not going farther than 3rd line defense, but there are def worse defensemen or there. I may have been a little too harsh in my assessment, but I was more disappointed the Hawks signed him because they already have a boatload of adequate third pairing defenders. De Haan would have shored up the Hawks biggest weakness, which is top 4 defense. As is, they're pretty much left with a declining Duncan Keith. There's been a lot of chatter about the Hawks inquiring about Faulk, but unless the Canes are willing to take a gently-used Artem Anisimov, I doubt the price will be one the Hawks are willing to pay.
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grack posted:Yes, I too would like my team to trade a good prospect and a bunch of spare parts for one of the best players in the league. Hah! Beagle, Roussel, Sutter, Eriksson and Gudbranson. Bennings master plan revealed at last
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Scaramouche posted:Hah! Beagle, Roussel, Sutter, Eriksson and Gudbranson. Bennings master plan revealed at last That's like 19M in salary. Ottawa would never take that much back. Also, holy christ that's depressing.
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Kilza posted:Zero toughness. Zero character. That team's going to get pushed around without guys like Martin and Polak to back them up and miss the playoffs. the leafs are gonna open the season 4-7-2 or something and this is 100% gonna be the narrative for months
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what the gently caress is shero doing he better be about to grift someone
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grack posted:That's like 19M in salary. Ottawa would never take that much back. Yeah I knew throwing Eriksson in there was too much for plausibility
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