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paragon1 posted:Oh boy! I know that the customers aren't predetermined, because I had to reload a mission where I missed some screenshots, and the customers I got and what they tried to sell me were all different. I suspect it just picks random first and last names and combines them with no concern for whether or not they make sense! Ibblebibble posted:If one of the opponent chefs is not named Hiroyuki Sakai this game is the worst. Sadly, everything to do with the story text and people's names seems to be buried in some files with very weird file extensions, so I don't think I can mod any of that.
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Oh my god. Those trousers. He has bathroom tile trousers. How has no one noticed this yet?
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Lacedaemonius posted:Oh my god. Those trousers. He has bathroom tile trousers. How has no one noticed this yet? I was sitting on a joke involving Armand clearly having killed several cows for their hides and something about beef recipes but I couldn't find a way to make it, like, actually a joke.
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I just want to repost Armand's utterly amazing memory dance, so that it may be enshrined in the hall of history in capital letters:
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Enchanted Hat posted:
I'll be the obnoxious Italian purist right here right now: you don't put cream in carbonara 
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Jul 8, 2018 08:59
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Mikl posted:I'll be the obnoxious Italian purist right here right now: you don't put cream in carbonara That’s why it's rated so bad.
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Enchanted Hat posted:3) Adding coffee to the menu doesn't actually reduce wine sales. People will generally order wine with their appetizers and mains, then order a coffee for their dessert. See that? Never doubt the power of coffee. 
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Lacedaemonius posted:Oh my god. Those trousers. He has bathroom tile trousers. How has no one noticed this yet? They kind of look like the artist had been vaguely described the classic pepita-pattern for cook's trousers years ago. And then got really drunk before making the texture.
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Oh god yeah I played this game. I think I gave up when all the minigames came up.
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tomanton posted:Can we retexture Armand to have a mustache or possibly even a tracksuit? seconded. moustache, tracksuit and giant chef's hat.
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Jul 8, 2018 12:39
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So what's the most gamey min-max dish we can make?
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Mikl posted:I'll be the obnoxious Italian purist right here right now: you don't put cream in carbonara So what should be put into carbonara? I'm kind of curious now.
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Jul 8, 2018 14:02
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Daigerus posted:So what should be put into carbonara? I'm kind of curious now. Eggs and cheese and some pasta water if it’s too thick.
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Palladium posted:So what's the most gamey min-max dish we can make? I ran a test by doing the last mission again and trying various ways to break the game and make customers pay huge bills. I had modest success - my best attempt increased revenue from our $84k to $102k and profit from our $41k to $58k. This was the strategy I employed: - Red wine, white wine, coffee and tea only on the drinks menu - Only one dessert, Strawberry Jubilee, price doubled to $10 - Only one main course, mixed casserole, price modestly increased to $20 - No soups - Both appetizers, prices reduced to $15 each - Both breakfast dishes, prices reduced to $4 each The key part of this strategy is that the game appears to evaluate how expensive your restaurant is by looking at all the dishes without considering type. So if you have, say, five cheap mains but only one expensive dessert, one expensive appetizer and one expensive soup, the game will think you're cheaper than average, even though guests would in theory have to buy three expensive dishes and one cheap one (one appetizer, one soup, one main and one dessert). I tried doing precisely that at first, but it didn't work so well - people weren't ordering full four-course meals. What I've learned is: - Customers don't mind much if you increase the price of a dish, although they do seem to have very specific ceilings on how much they will spend on a specific type of dish. They seemed reluctant to pay more than $20 for the main course, for example. - Customers appear to have a secret maximum amount that they are willing to spend in total. If buying four courses would be too expensive, they will just order fewer items - If forced to buy fewer items, customers appear to prioritise dessert, main course and drinks. What ended up happening was that most customers would buy just wine (high margin), dessert (high margin) and main course (high margin), and they wouldn't be able to afford the discounted appetizer (and they were not allowed to order soup). This meant that Armand only had to cook two courses per person instead of four (no soup or appetizer), and you could get people through the door, serve them, bill them, then kick them out very quickly. Armand actually spent half his time idle, even when the restaurant was busy. If I had unlimited customers, I'm sure this strategy could have made $200k revenue per day, easy. Since the number of customers goes up as Armand gets more famous, this profit-maximising strategy should only get better over time. Unfortunately, although I focus a lot on it, making huge profits is not the biggest challenge in this game. Although the game has a lot of financial mission objectives, all the difficult mission objectives focus on increasing restaurant quality and winning cooking competitions. It's pretty fun to break the game in this way, but it's not necessary to get anything like this efficient to beat the game.
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Daigerus posted:So what should be put into carbonara? I'm kind of curious now. Egg and bacon and parmesan, and some black pepper if that's your taste. In fact, quick and dirty carbonara recipe: 1. Cook the pasta. Long pasta (like spaghetti or linguine) works best, but you can also use short pasta. 2. Meanwhile, fry the bacon, cut into 1 cm (quarter inch) cubes. You should use pancetta if you can find it, but bacon is an acceptable substitute. Do not add oil, and drain most of the fat from the pan. 3. Meanwhile meanwhile, prepare the egg. Normal dosage is one whole egg, plus one egg yolk per person. Crack into a bowl, add some salt and black pepper to taste, and whisk with a fork until it's a bit foamy (you don't need to whisk it all the way, just a little bit is fine). 4. When the pasta is done drain it, turn the heat under the bacon pan back on, on LOW, and place the pasta in it for about half a minute, stirring and tossing to mix it with the bacon. 5. This is the critical part: TURN THE HEAT OFF under the pan or else you'll get scrambled eggs, then pour the egg mixture into the pan. QUICKLY stir and toss to cover the pasta with the egg, then immediately remove it from the pan and plate it. The egg should be partially cooked from the residual heat of the pan, pasta and bacon, so that it sticks to the pasta, but not "clump up" as in scrambled eggs. Don't worry if you don't get it on the first try, it takes practice to perfect the timing. If it's too thick you can add a little bit of pasta water (a LITTLE BIT) to loosen it up. 6. Sprinkle parmesan on top, and more black pepper if you want, and eat. Walla, pasta carbonara.
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Mikl posted:I'll be the obnoxious Italian purist right here right now: you don't put cream in carbonara Man, carbonara is one of my favourite dishes in reality, and putting cream in it is just criminal. If I could mod the recipes to take out the cream and increase the recipe quality to like 80%, I would. Daigerus posted:So what should be put into carbonara? I'm kind of curious now. Egg, parmesan, bacon and a good amount of pepper and you can't go wrong.
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Is it alright to replace the bacon with ham if you don't really care for it? It should be close enough yes? 
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Poil posted:Is it alright to replace the bacon with ham if you don't really care for it? It should be close enough yes? You can use any kind of meat, as long as it's fatty enough to give out fat when you cook it; this fat will then cover the pasta when you toss it in the pan before adding the egg, loosening it up a bit. (Or you can add a little bit of oil  )Regarding the "doneness" of the bacon / pancetta / whatever, that's also to taste. My parents prefer it to be a little bit chewy, while most of the times I fry it all the way to get it nice and crunchy.
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prosciutto is another meat I've seen used in carbonara recipes, the meat is a touch too salty for my taste. But yeah, cream is not in most recipes I've seen, that's more in americanized fettuccine alfredo
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Jul 8, 2018 16:48
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Mikl posted:Walla, pasta carbonara. It's voila, not walla. 
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Aesculus posted:I just want to repost Armand's utterly amazing memory dance, so that it may be enshrined in the hall of history in capital letters: If for some reason anyone should want dancing Armand as an avatar:  EDIT: or slightly faster: 
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Mikl posted:I'll be the obnoxious Italian purist right here right now: you don't put cream in carbonara
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Mikl posted:You can use any kind of meat, as long as it's fatty enough to give out fat when you cook it; this fat will then cover the pasta when you toss it in the pan before adding the egg, loosening it up a bit. (Or you can add a little bit of oil 
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Haifisch posted:Judging by the flags I think it's supposed to be some sort of horrible fusion cuisine, assuming I'm interpreting them right & it's supposed to be both French and Italian. Interesting, I didn't notice those flags in the corner. Apparently Mixed Pork Casserole is also French-Italian.
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In regards to customer spending if you click on them they have an abstracted $$$$$ from 1 to 5 which I think corresponds to how much they will pay. It also depends on time of day, people showing up between lunch and dinner so like 3-5 only seem to buy soup or appetizers. The annoying thing about the campaign is you can't set dinners/lunches like in the sandbox mode until later in the campaign (I don't think this is a spoiler) where you can add 4 courses + wine at a set price slightly cheaper than ala carte and people will spend more on the stuff. Also some recipes are just bafflingly better than others or much worse. I think the game dev's really love the Mixed Casserole of Pork, because it legitimately is the best main course recipe for French Cuisine for like 2/3rds the game. Also like half of the American recipes are seafood, and all the steak ones are pretty low quality for some reason... so if you open a steakhouse like the best thing on the menu is probably going to be a goddamn crab cake.  Mussels are also really good imo, in that they are terrible, but they cost like $1 and a couple seconds to make so you make like $15 of profit on each meal, especially if your chef is good at cooking them they can be ~okay~
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Jul 9, 2018 02:40
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The Double pack is still $19 on steam. 
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Synthbuttrange posted:The Double pack is still $19 on steam. It was like $5 during the summer sale, so I bought it for ~nostalgia~ and it is okay, not worth $20 imo.
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I really enjoy it, but I think the game is definitely for a niche interest. Other than optimising your restaurant just for the sake of it, a lot of the game's appeal to me is in the goofy story bits, and I'll be showing those off in this thread anyway.
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Why a tracksuit? Is Armand supposed to be part slav?
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Mikl posted:I'll be the obnoxious Italian purist right here right now: you don't put cream in carbonara Or bacon. E: and god help you if you use fake parmesan
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ditty bout my clitty posted:Or bacon. There’s nothing wrong with using grana padano
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Xun posted:There’s nothing wrong with using grana padano Sure, if you want to be a plebian.
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Enchanted Hat posted:But our innocent little story's about to take a sinister turn, as Armand will be meeting some dangerous new friends in the next mission. I for one can't wait for the evil megacorporation OmniFood to send mercenaries to the restaurant with the intention of poisoning our food and breaking the kitchen sink.
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Aesculus posted:I for one can't wait for the evil megacorporation OmniFood to send mercenaries to the restaurant with the intention of poisoning our food and breaking the kitchen sink.
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This LP made me find my copy of this game and play it, and boy, I forgot how silly the story gets sometimes  The dialogue really gets ridiculous sometimes, too. Also, my Armand has perfectly normal pants for some reason. I'm very disappointed.
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Episode 4: A family restaurant  Hi, Armand, how are you doing? Not bad, uncle, but I'd like some guidance about what to do next… If you have any questions, just ask! What can I do to increase my reputation rating? The only way to increase your reputation is by winning cooking contests! If your restaurant has chefs with high reputations, meaning they enter and win cooking contests, your business benefit – more people will want to try your restaurant to savor recipes made by award-winning chefs! You can view a list of your star chefs in the information center as well, which lists your chefs with the highest reputations in the culinary world. If you ever want to see your reputation, you can do so by viewing the chef detail panel. I think I'll be going now, uncle! Take care, Armand. That was mercifully short. As Michel mentioned, the game has a list of the world's top chefs sorted by reputation. Unfortunately, Armand doesn't even qualify yet, so we're not on the list. We will be soon enough, though! The game hasn't really given me any direction yet for this mission, and there's nowhere we can go for more exposition or another cooking contest, so I just run the restaurant as I normally would.  A customer calls me over (she's hiding behind the wall in the screenshot), and I brace myself for getting insulted and then losing a bunch of money. Surprisingly, however, this customer isn't trying to scam me. Sometimes you'll get customers who work for ingredient wholesalers who will offer to supply your restaurant. This will allow you to use recipe ingredients of a higher quality than three stars, which is normally the maximum. This can significantly increase the quality of your recipes, and since it's free, there's never any reason to refuse this.  She works for a place called "Bill's Butchery" which apparently sells nothing but pork. It's unfortunately not super high quality, rated at three and a half to four stars, but it does manage to lift the quality of our mixed casserole of pork from 67% to 70%. Since each wholesaler has such a tiny selection of products, you'll never realistically get a wholesaler for every ingredient in all your recipes, but the system provides another progression mechanic as you accumulate more and more supplier relationships throughout the game, slowly increasing the quality of your recipes.  After a little while, I get a pop-up message. I hope it's not a health inspector or something.  Good day, sir, how can I help you?So who is this jerk?   I'd like to order the Mixed Casserole of Pork. You know, I just love French food. After seeing you win the cooking contest, I thought I owed it to myself to try the winning recipe.Wait, THAT'S your name? What the hell?? Well, you've come to the right place. We are a new restaurant, but with deep culinary roots. But of course! I remember this fine restaurant several years ago, when it was managed by a fantastic chef. You know, that man really knew how to cook. But what's his name…? Anyway, I hope that the only thing that has changed is the management and this decoration - *egh*. But the food, I hope not. You were a customer here before? Oh, yes. I came ALL the time when on my – shall we say, *business trips* to Paris. I even helped the previous owner out with some cash before. He knew how to make the best Crepes Marcie, and I love that. Can't say no to Crepes Marcie, now, can ya? You're kidding! That person you're talking about is none other than my uncle Michel! Michel! That's his name! Incredible fellow, you know? But wait… you don't look like him. Besides, your decoration tastes are appalling. Michel knew how to decorate as well as cook… What's wrong with the decoration? I kind of like it… The ORIGINAL Treize à Table was something else! It was not only a five-star restaurant – it was a friggin' constellation! The best furniture, the best decoration, the best entertainment. Well, yes, my uncle Michel really had this restaurant in better shape, but I AM just starting out… I sympathize with your modest little startup operation, but I still for the life of me do not see how such a great chef as Michel is your uncle! No – really! He IS my uncle! You'll have to prove it to me then. How can I prove that he is my uncle? I don't know. Maybe if you gave me some proof… What kind of proof? Michel had a great recipe for Crepes Marcie. It had a special little something added to it. If you can get this from him and prepare it for me, I'd believe that he is your uncle. You helped out my uncle before when he was younger. How about now? Would you help me out? Perhaps. Okay, okay. I will give you a hand. Michel and I go back a long way. Now if he IS your uncle, I'll definitely help out. How does that sound? But, wait! How can I reach you? I will also come by frequently to taste your repertoire of recipes. It's nice to have a change of tastes, you know? It's always OmniFood this, OmniFood that… I don't know what sort of problem Don Corleone has with our decoration, it is clearly top of the line. Anyway, uh, I guess Restaurant Empire is now an elaborate piece of Godfather fan fiction? I don't know if Armand really ought to get involved with this guy, but we have to fulfil his request to pass the mission, so I head over to Uncle Michel's place to learn how to make this jerk's special Crepes Marcie.  Already back, Armand? Yes, I've got something to ask you! I hope it's about food and not money again. I hate it when you ask me those silly economic questions. Not quite. I just met this guy named Don Corleone, and he says he knows you. Now what's that all about? Why, yes – the Don! I haven't seen him for ages! How's he doing? Well… Fine, I guess… That's nice to hear. We go back a long ways. You know, he used to finance my restaurant – that is, until OmniFood drove him out of the business. Make sure you say hi to him for me… He mentioned that you had this secret Crêpes Marcie recipe. Can I have it? This must be for Don Corleone. I remember this was his favorite recipe! I added a dash of cinnamon and vanilla essence to bring out the creaminess of the crêpes. There you go. That should please the Don.UNCLE MICHEL JUST GAVE YOU THE SECRET CREPES MARCIE RECIPE THAT THE DON LOVES SO MUCH. Thanks, uncle! Good luck with the Don. Uncle Michel told us the secret of adding a dash of cinnamon, and it… HOLY poo poo Armand, you added ONE HUNDRED TEASPOONS of cinnamon! Uh, well, the quality of the recipe is somehow way up to 62%, making the new Crepes Marcie our highest-quality dessert. Unfortunately, a hundred teaspoons of cinnamon per serving is really hitting our ingredient costs, so now the recipe makes a profit of 26 cents. Don Corleone returns to the restaurant the next day, and I try serving it to him. gently caress, I hope he isn't going to shoot us or something.  Hello, Don. Or would you rather I call you Mr. Corleone? How about just Don?I like how Armand acts like he's dropping a big secret here by showing the Don that he knows his last name, even though: 1) Armand clearly already knew his name when he was talking to Uncle Michel in the last scene, and 2) He actually had no way of knowing the Don's name in the first place because Don Corleone didn't introduce himself when he and Armand first spoke. Fine, Don. I've got the recipe now. If this is indeed Michel's secret recipe, we're talking business here. Come on, let me see it…YOU SHOW DON THE SECRET CREPES MARCIE RECIPE. "You would offer me these crepes with a hundred teaspoons of cinnamon? What have I ever done to make you treat me so disrespectfully?"  Mmm-hmm. Yes, this is the one! Fantastic! You must be Michel's nephew! In all my years traveling, I have never found another place that adds that extra dash of cinnamon to the glorious Crepes Marcie! You know what? I like your restaurant. And kid, I like you. You have potential. I'd like to make a standard offer to you… What kind of an offer? Ah, yes. The offer… If you make a monthly profit of $25,000 within six months, I will grant you an investment sum for you to expand. I can taste the quality in your food, but I cannot judge your business skills. However, if I can see you turn this profit, I will help your restaurant prosper! And how much exactly, might I ask? Oh, let's say $250,000 for starters. How's that sound? Am I right in saying you'll give me 250 grand if I make a $25,000 profit, within six months? Not-a exactly. I will see to it that the money is wisely invested, of course. *La Cosa Nostra* likes to keep their books *balanced*. So I will give-a you the loan, but you have to meet your end of the bargain. OK, I'm game. Where do I start? Start now. I'll be looking out for your performance. In six months, when you have made $25,000 in monthly profits, I will come see you again with your money. Oh, and by the way, here you go, in case I forgot to give it to you before… That's my name card. Look me up anytime. If I'm there, I'll appear on the adventure mode list, and I'll be happy to greet you.Um, Armand, I don't think borrowing $250,000 from the mob is a good idea . Also, I like how the game's writers decided to make-a Don Corleone talk-a like Super Mario for exactly one-a dialogue box, then forgot all about it. Unfortunately, it's an offer you can't refuse, and since we met the Don's $25,000 profit target, we are now officially a front for the Italian mafia. On the plus side, we will be using the Don's money to buy a new restaurant! We'll be getting our first look at that in the next mission. During the mission, I bought a few new recipes off our customers. As usual, let me know if you want me to add anything to the menu:  This is a roast leg of lamb with rosemary. Sounds very nice, and it's got good profitability ($11.94) and a decent quality rating of 53%. Unfortunately, since this is a main course, it's totally outclassed by our mixed casserole of pork at 70% quality rating, but it doesn't hurt to have variety. I'd say that this is a good recipe, and I've already added it to the menu.  The main problem with this tartine, other than the fact that it looks tiny and pathetic on the plate, is that appetizers are usually hugely profitable, yet this only earns us a paltry $6.77. Since it doesn't even have a high quality rating, I can see no reason to sell this ever. At best, this is a mediocre recipe.  I love duck, I wish I could cook it all the time. Unfortunately, as in reality, making duck is really expensive, and it's really harming this recipe's profitability. By default, this only earns us $5.76 per serving. I could reduce the quality of the ingredients to make more money, but even the default recipe quality is only 46%, which is really bad for a main course. I haven't tested this, but I also suspect that this dish goes in the oven, which would make it really slow to cook. If I'm right, then this is definitely a bad recipe. Anyway, next time we'll be properly introduced to the Family, as well as to our new restaurant!
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Dire Chinchilla posted:This LP made me find my copy of this game and play it, and boy, I forgot how silly the story gets sometimes Ah, the bathroom tile trousers are an improvement from Restaurant Empire 2! I'm playing the game through the updated Restaurant Empire 2 engine. I don't know what you mean by the story being silly, though, the story bits in the last update seem perfectly sensible to me.
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Armand what the hell are you doing  I understand that you need money, but borrowing from the mafia? That's a recipe for disaster
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Thankfully this guy is the least threatening mafisao in history. I think I stopped when you unlock steakhouses between some of the obtuse mechanics and the story just getting a hair *too silly*
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