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Kia Niro charging on CCS. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRGgOdjXWOY A bit faster than Kona, tapers less on the midrange but has slightly weird breakpoints. No matter. Max rate is in the low 70s, which considering the lower consumption puts it up near the Model S, certainly the 60 or 75 models, at 470 km/hour. You won't get a full hour's worth of that speed though, since it fills up and begins tapering around the half hour mark. In a real hour of charging it added 380 km range. That means a 700 km trip is doable with a 1 hour dinner break in the middle, or two half hours along the way. Awesome.
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Ola posted:Kia Niro charging on CCS. minus the 100kW peak at the start, it looks like an SC graph also ends up tapering like that, hitting ~60kW at ~70% full. 
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Well poo poo, got a check engine light on my Volt on the way home tonight... Shortly after it switched to gas (been a long time since that happened). Code P2097... Looking it up it appears that GM put out a service bulletin about this code false firing on 2016-2017 Volts. They update some unit to make it stop. Mine never got that update. https://gm.oemdtc.com/7325/17058-service-update-p2097-post-o2-trim-diagnostic-false-failing-2016-2017-chevrolet-volt quote:Summary: 17058 - Service Update. The post O2 trim diagnostic may falsely fail causing DTC P2097 to set, commanding a Malfunction Indicator Light (MIL) to illuminate. The vehicle runs and functions as normal with no other symptoms. Reprogram the Drive Motor Power Inverter Unit. Between that, the active recall I need to have done, and now needing my first oil change (after nearly 2 full years!) I guess its time to visit the dealer.
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spandexcajun posted:I cleaned up my garage and painted it white in preperation for my Model 3. I got a poster of Nikola Tesla's induction motor patent and framed it and hung it up, along with that cool pic of Nikola Tesla sitting with lighting and his big rear end tesla coil. You’re a dork
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Suqit posted:You’re a dork Yes? I mean, it's the same thing as hanging up an old Texaco sign or something. Makes me happy when I park in the garage.
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spandexcajun posted:Yes? I mean, it's the same thing as hanging up an old Texaco sign or something. Makes me happy when I park in the garage. Nobody does this either though
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First longer-outing review of the P3D+ model 3 https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2018-tesla-model-3-performance-track-mode quote:Model 3 with 20-inch wheels wearing Michelin Pilot Sport 4S rubber, upgraded brakes, a higher top speed, sport-tuned suspension, and a carbon-fiber spoiler on the back. As spec'd, it promises zero-to-60-mph dashes in just 3.5 seconds and a 155-mph top speed With deliveries of these starting we may see actual track times soon.
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big crush on Chad OMG posted:Nobody does this either though There is a thread in this forum dedicated to it? I could walk my dog right now and point out 10 different garage like this. Why are so many goons to cool for school now? Everything does not have to suck. Like, this is the EV thread and well over half the post are about how terrible Teslas are from people who have never driven one. Lighten up, the EV revolution is finally here and it's pretty cool. It's ok to like things.
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spandexcajun posted:There is a thread in this forum dedicated to it? I could walk my dog right now and point out 10 different garage like this. You're drifting into creepy cult of personality stuff with giant posters of Elon Musk. Stick to pictures of inanimate objects, like a giant supercharger or a closeup of the Tesla emblem or something.
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Deteriorata posted:You're drifting into creepy cult of personality stuff with giant posters of Elon Musk. I don't have any posters of Elon Musk, I have one poster of Nikola Tesla. I made a joke about hanging up a print out of Elon toking up on the Joe Rogan podcast because it's silly as hell. WTF is it with anti Tesla people and just flat out making poo poo up?
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spandexcajun posted:I don't have any posters of Elon Musk, I have one poster of Nikola Tesla. I made a joke about hanging up a print out of Elon toking up on the Joe Rogan podcast because it's silly as hell. What is it with Tesla people accusing everyone else of being anti-Tesla. You said you wanted the picture. You wrote it like you were serious.Then you defended it as a completely normal thing to do. You apparently thought it was a joke, I did not. Assuming you were making a serious statement, it creeped me out and seemed cultish. That is all. Now that we know that you're not actually going to hang it, we're cool. I apologize for missing 
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More NiroChat https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnYWWtUNykA 500km (310 miles) on a charge with a price in the mid 30s is no joke. Since it and the Hyundai Kona Electric share a platform and software, the advertised mileage on these (240) would seem to be conservative. Nero is coming "late 2018", the kona in "early 2019" so the only remaining questions are will they make them in any volume and will they actually market them or will they be a sideshow at dealers like the bolt.
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big crush on Chad OMG posted:Nobody does this either though  This was sarcastic, right?
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Qwijib0 posted:500km (310 miles) on a charge with a price in the mid 30s is no joke. Since it and the Hyundai Kona Electric share a platform and software, the advertised mileage on these (240) would seem to be conservative. I thought the Kona was significantly smaller and is on a different platform?
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Godholio posted:
Yeah there are definitely tons of people with a Texaco sign in their garage. I myself have a Shell V-Power NITRO+ pump in my garage. It doesn’t work but sometimes I like to sit out there with it watching SEC football games with my cardboard George W Bush whispering, “Mission accomplished” on every completion
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Qwijib0 posted:First longer-outing review of the P3D+ model 3 A coworker takes delivery of his (not a + to my knowledge, so no track mode,) on the 12th, I'll worm some seat time out of him and report back. (I let him drive my 3 right after I got it.)
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dissss posted:I thought the Kona was significantly smaller and is on a different platform? I don't know about platform or not, but they certainly share a lot, like battery packs, software, buttons, levers etc.
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Disclaimer: I've owned 5 EVs and driven them daily for the last decade. I'm an EV and Tesla fanatic that should be ignored by the more enlightened posters in this thread. Decided to breathe a little life into Roadster 1, while waiting for #2  https://www.instagram.com/p/Bmyn3qoBrFh
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Powershift posted:
I thought the Ford trademark claim on "E Model/Model E" had to do with the Econoline van and its variants.
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Too good not to share.  (shamelessly stolen from a friend on Facebook)
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e: forget about it!
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:you are right that the vast majority of consumers do not actually need the supercharger network at all, and most only need it very occasionally, but the fact that it exists allows for a better case to be made for ev adoption. consumers' self-perceived needs aren't necessarily rational! There's also the matter that according to climate scientists, keeping the planet in not-to-terrible shape will require essentially abandoning fossil fuels altogether. This means that the minority of people who regularly drive outside the range of entry-level EVs would need to go electric. And if making it possible for them to do so also makes it easier to get everyone else into electric cars, that's a nice bonus. It's not like they'd be wasting their money, either - a battery which is rarely drained below 50% will last longer than one routinely used to its full potential. eeenmachine posted:Decided to breathe a little life into Roadster 1, while waiting for #2 Some professional test driver talked about his experience driving a 2020 Roadster prototype, claiming that it does indeed perform as advertised: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcI-5AzPlr8
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eeenmachine posted:Disclaimer: I've owned 5 EVs and driven them daily for the last decade. I'm an EV and Tesla fanatic that should be ignored by the more enlightened posters in this thread. That's a great color for that car! Looks awesome!
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Is there a way to suggest changes to the model 3 software other than tweeting at Musk?
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Hello I just bought a 2013 Nissan Leaf. Would anyone have any recommendations for a great at home charger?
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Clipper Creek
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Adding Juicebox, OpenEVSE (available as a kit or assembled) are also good options. ChargePoint and Siemens also make them, but they tend to be more expensive. Personally I have a basic ClipperCreek 3.6kW unit. Had I known about OpenEVSE at the time I probably would have went that way to get the monitoring features.
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Another EV research facility starting up in Silicon Valley. This one from Harley-Davidson. https://www.rideapart.com/articles/265038/harley-announces-high-tech-silicon-valley-research-facility/ posted:It's been a pretty busy month or so for Harley-Davidson. First the company dropped a bomb on the motoring world with the announcement of new, decidedly non-Harley products like the Pan American, the Streetfighter, and the LiveWire. Then there was the 115th anniversary party, the new CVO bikes, plans for storefront-based brand outreach, the unveiling of the bonkers FXDR 114—all kinds of crazy stuff. Now, not content to rest on its laurels, the Motor Company just dropped some electrifying news on us about a new research and development facility in NorCal.
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Costco was running a $70 discount on the Siemens one. My wife got an older Juicebox (no wifi or smart grid poo poo) and it's been reliable. Just make sure you buy the right version (in-wall wired or plug-in) and that the plug is the same as whatever you get installed since there are a few form factors. The car she has can do in-vehicle charge scheduling, so paying more for a charger that could do so didn't make sense to us.
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eeenmachine posted:Disclaimer: I've owned 5 EVs and driven them daily for the last decade. I'm an EV and Tesla fanatic that should be ignored by the more enlightened posters in this thread. Nice I'm soon to buy a Shock Chevy Bolt. It's really kind of a shame how rare colors are when buying a car.
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Duck and Cover posted:Nice I'm soon to buy a Shock Chevy Bolt. It's really kind of a shame how rare colors are when buying a car. First time I've heard of that color option, that is awesome. Should be an option on every EV!
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Cockmaster posted:There's also the matter that according to climate scientists, keeping the planet in not-to-terrible shape will require essentially abandoning fossil fuels altogether. This means that the minority of people who regularly drive outside the range of entry-level EVs would need to go electric. It's either shift off of fossil fuels, or invest heavily in carbon capture and storage tech. In other words, you can keep your ICE car, so long as you pay the carbon offset tax for every gallon of fuel you burn, or else install some fancy doodad that captures the exhaust and stores in in some onboard tank or something. (Realistically, we need both, because there's already too much CO2 in the atmosphere) But the fundamental problem of climate change is that stopping it requires altruistic behavior on a global scale. It is always cheaper, easier, and more effective, at a local scale, to pollute than to not pollute.
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:It's either shift off of fossil fuels, or invest heavily in carbon capture and storage tech. In other words, you can keep your ICE car, so long as you pay the carbon offset tax for every gallon of fuel you burn, or else install some fancy doodad that captures the exhaust and stores in in some onboard tank or something. Is there any possibility that it would ever be cost-effective to develop carbon capture devices for individual cars? I mean, you'd probably have to empty the CO2 tank about as often as you fill the gas tank, and we're already making steady progress towards there being no excuse for any motorist to stick with internal combustion. quote:But the fundamental problem of climate change is that stopping it requires altruistic behavior on a global scale. It is always cheaper, easier, and more effective, at a local scale, to pollute than to not pollute. Likewise, it's usually more effective to develop technology to let people stop polluting within the framework of their existing lifestyle than it is to get them to make even modest sacrifices for the sake of the environment. Especially when you consider that people often can't be bothered to discriminate between stuff that actually does good and stuff that provides some pathetic illusion of doing good.
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Cockmaster posted:Is there any possibility that it would ever be cost-effective to develop carbon capture devices for individual cars? I mean, you'd probably have to empty the CO2 tank about as often as you fill the gas tank, and we're already making steady progress towards there being no excuse for any motorist to stick with internal combustion. I don't think this is likely for consumer cars, not that I know much of anything about carbon capture and storage. It's remotely possible it'd be feasible for larger vehicles. Converting a 40-ton big rig to battery power sounds like a challenge to me. Not insurmountable, but expensive, in terms of the amount of batteries needed to get any useful range, the amount of time spent charging those batteries vs. moving the truck (and therefore making money), and the additional weight (thus reduced hauling capacity) imposed by using batteries instead of fossil fuels. These are all solvable problems, but they'll take time, and in the intermediary period we may see alternative approaches.
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Cockmaster posted:Is there any possibility that it would ever be cost-effective to develop carbon capture devices for individual cars? I mean, you'd probably have to empty the CO2 tank about as often as you fill the gas tank, and we're already making steady progress towards there being no excuse for any motorist to stick with internal combustion. Carbon capture for individual cars seems extremely unlikely. If the technology were developed and cheap, you'd still run into human behavior problems with it. People get having to put gas into a car, they're not going to want to take stuff out regularly. If the CC device fills up, what then? Does the car stop working? That will result in people dumping it by the side of the road rather than in an approved container. If the car will continue to run with it full, it will never be emptied. There may be ways around this tendency, but it starts to get rather Rube Goldberg-esque. I think the easier way is go with bio or renewable fuels - either derived from plants or processes that create liquid fuels from CO2 from the air. That way the atmosphere itself becomes the CC device and the carbon gets recycled without increasing the net level.
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Non plant matter(*) CCS is pretty much a load of poo poo that will take decades to make commercial (IF it can be at all) and a common talking point by fossil fuel lobbyists to insist that the damage done by the fossil fuel industry could be mitigated or negated pinky swear! (*) If you plant a shitload of trees very fast and hope they grow very fast, that's the only vaguely viable CCS.
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Carbon capture at the generation site, EV for the road. Far far far more efficient than trying to capture on individual cars. And aside from costs getting people to switch to EV mostly just takes education and getting them to test drive one.
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Deteriorata posted:Carbon capture for individual cars seems extremely unlikely. If the technology were developed and cheap, you'd still run into human behavior problems with it. People get having to put gas into a car, they're not going to want to take stuff out regularly. Treat it like running out of DEF in a diesel.
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