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Verisimilidude posted:the culture war has devolved to the point where idiot CHUDs are turning pro-global warming and pro-pollution just for a chance to own the libs "Hey ozone layer! gently caress YOU!" 
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The only reason you were hearing about it is because republicans were whipping each other into a frenzy over it, and they have very short attention spans
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Sep 14, 2018 13:42
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Rad-daddio posted:"Hey ozone layer! gently caress YOU!" It should be legal to murder these fucks on sight
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Sep 14, 2018 13:45
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Rad-daddio posted:"Hey ozone layer! gently caress YOU!" I pulled up at a red light next to a guy in a BIG FORD TRUCK like this the other day, and he had this decal on his back window: 
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Sep 14, 2018 14:01
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The wrench and bolt it turned were made in China.
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Sep 14, 2018 14:04
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Canned Panda posted:I pulled up at a red light next to a guy in a BIG FORD TRUCK like this the other day, and he had this decal on his back window: for all their macho posturing people who talk about their truck constantly are the biggest dweebs
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Sep 14, 2018 14:06
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Verisimilidude posted:for all their macho posturing people who talk about their truck constantly are the biggest dweebs Yeah it's like the losers who brag about eating spicy food, same sort of stupidity.
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Sep 14, 2018 14:38
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shoving ghost peppers up my butt to own the libs
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Sep 14, 2018 14:40
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Also straws are a rounding error in the grand scheme of things and banning them literally accomplishes nothing.Kazak posted:It's all just a personal basis feel good prescription. Same with cfl bulbs and reusable bags and recycling at home. Exactly this
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Verisimilidude posted:for all their macho posturing people who talk about their truck constantly are the biggest dweebs Even better, their entire life revolves around it. It's like these people don't have a personality outside of "guy or gal with big truck and stupid opinions".
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Sep 14, 2018 14:46
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We should have reusable lead straws imo.
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Sep 14, 2018 14:46
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Cfl bulbs are obsolete already anyway. Went to a seafood restaurant in Portland last weekend that clearly stated on the menu that they don't offer plastic straws. I ordered a bloody mary which was promptly brought to me with a plastic straw in it. Ok.
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Sep 14, 2018 14:47
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Straws are OVER, the buzz is all about Lenny now.
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Sep 14, 2018 14:49
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social media has the memory of a goldfish OP* remember the huge fuss about Kony 2012? or the huge fuss about statues? both of which finished up as soon as humanity's collective attention was focused on the next shiny trinket or bauble *yes i know goldfish actually are quite capable of remembering things. they're also a lot smarter than humans, and as evidence to prove this i point to the fact that goldfish never invented a goldfish equivalent to Facebook
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Sep 14, 2018 15:22
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i wonder how that Kony fellow is doing these days hopefully not using any plastic straws
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Sep 14, 2018 15:50
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Plastics and other environmental pollutants have done so much damage to the public's ability to focus that
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Canned Panda posted:I pulled up at a red light next to a guy in a BIG FORD TRUCK like this the other day, and he had this decal on his back window: Was it this guy?  (spotted in the wild in Northern Wisconsin)
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Sep 14, 2018 16:49
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social media: THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IN THE WORL-hey wow lookit that! ~gets distracted by some other thing~
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shut up netface posted:isn't that kinda weird how that died out really quickly? they decided to get rid of them so people stopped talking about it you loving idiot
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TROIKA CURES GREEK posted:Also straws are a rounding error in the grand scheme of things and banning them literally accomplishes nothing. In hindsight I think Al Gore is a big piece of poo poo for making a compelling case that global warming is real, then prescribing personal consumption to reverse climate change. This motherfucker career politician surely knows that military and industry are the two biggest polluters, yet he makes it out to be your fault and mine for buying the wrong kind of car.
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Starbucks came up with a new lid that uses more plastic than the straw and we all were saved. I don't get why people were targeting straws while plastic forks and knives exist.
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We should go back to glass bottles of milk that you leave at your front door when empty and they are picked up and refilled for you. Do that but for all beverages.
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TROIKA CURES GREEK posted:Also straws are a rounding error in the grand scheme of things and banning them literally accomplishes nothing. it makes the idiots who never actually think about what our collective impact is on the world feel slightly better about themselves and that's worth all the retarded laws in the world seriously drive a gas guzzler and toss all your trash in to a heap outside you're never going to come close in your lifetime to what a factory can dump in a river in the span of a year
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Sep 14, 2018 17:42
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If we can't convince people to change habits as insignificant as using a plastic straw than we can't hope to change the profitable habits of big business. The same sort of impulse motivates them to dismiss the call to change plus additional greed. If we can't demonstrate that people really want the change and are willing to fight for it than they will not be incentivized to clean up their acts. We don't want it hard enough to commit to not using a plastic straw. They know they don't have a fight on their hands.
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the only way to change habits of big business is with the guillotine
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Sponge Baathist posted:Yeah sure cuts you a line of drywall for being a smartass 
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ArbitraryC posted:tbh I don't really see the use of straws outside of like a juicebox. Bite into the box. It's the same in sex.
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Bananaquiter posted:Starbucks came up with a new lid that uses more plastic than the straw and we all were saved. It was literally that old video of a straw nosed turtle going viral
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Sep 14, 2018 17:58
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It was a viral marketing campaign to sell as much steel tubing as possible before the effects of the tariffs hit.
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Sep 14, 2018 18:54
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Straws fall through the sorting machines at most commingled recycling facilities and then get thrown away therefore they are problematic.
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Sep 14, 2018 18:55
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Moon Atari posted:When I take my clients out for lunch at restaurants we bring our own supplies of wet wipes, bibs, specialized cutlery and bowls, even our own food if one person has individualized dietary needs. We also bring our own wheelchairs, walking sticks, incontinence aids etc. We can bring our own reusable straw. That disability excuse is just more bullshit people use to avoid acknowledging that they are uncomfortable with change, one which allows them to maintain the feeling that they are more caring than lazy. I think most people saying it probably have no actual interaction with the disabled community, but even if you can find someone disabled who needs a straw to drink I am willing to look them straight in the face and tell them they are capable of bringing their own straw. Not all disabled people have carers. And yes, where disabled people are certainly capable of bringing a straw, them being everywhere has both a convenience aspect and a price aspect - they're dirt cheap and everywhere, so if you find yourself in worse shape than you expected, it's not the end of the world. Reusable straws would be a nightmare to clean in comparison. A bunch of disabled people would just forget to restock the straw and play the aspiration roulette.
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I went to a bistro in Seattle and they provided metal straws. 
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endlessmonotony posted:Not all disabled people have carers. And yes, where disabled people are certainly capable of bringing a straw, them being everywhere has both a convenience aspect and a price aspect - they're dirt cheap and everywhere, so if you find yourself in worse shape than you expected, it's not the end of the world. Reusable straws would be a nightmare to clean in comparison. A bunch of disabled people would just forget to restock the straw and play the aspiration roulette. Then restaurants can keep an emergency stock of plastic straws for the disabled, even though it is a vanishingly small segment of the disabled population that will ever actually require it. I'm not dogmatically opposed to the existence of any disposable item. I'm opposed to their unnecessary consumption where there are easy reusable options available with the smallest of effort. Plastic straws need not 100% vanish from the world outside of museums. Using the existence of disability to act like we can't change anything about our system is a cheap excuse made primarily by people that have never once thought about how consumer decisions and product availability effects the disabled before now.
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Moon Atari posted:we can't hope to change the profitable habits of big business. not without violence yeah
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Bananaquiter posted:Starbucks came up with a new lid that uses more plastic than the straw and we all were saved. those lids are recyclable (whether they actually are or not is another problem), while straws are not recyclable.
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You mean to tell me people bandwagoned on a small and ultimately meaningless bit of public activism and abandoned it after getting a couple corporations to change over to shittier straws in order to generate some modest goodwill Color me absolutely shocked
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I don't think there should be any restaurants comrades. Just a public cafeteria per every few blocks, with reusable plates and utensils.
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This guy trying to start a ban on plastic combs tho
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Woden posted:Been shopping at Aldi for years so I've been using reusable bags for years. Sometimes though, I need to go to the other super markets to grab a couple of things and the contempt in their eyes when I don't have a bag for my 3 things is palpable. If you have 3 things then you don't even need a bag and you should tell the cashier that
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