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Gravy Jones
Sep 13, 2003

I am not on your side

feedmyleg posted:

There's some really bizarre thinking going on in here. Just because a movie is a period piece or an action movie doesn't mean it's not beholden to the cultural sensitivities of the times in which it's made. If it were a 60s period piece and the protagonist was throwing around racial slurs you wouldn't say "uh its set in the 60s idiot that was normal back then".

I think I'd be puzzled if people were having that argument based on a trailer that didn't have any racial slurs in it. What actually happens in the movie that people have an issue with? I don't know much about the plot and the trailer doesn't give much away.

In the comics the air force is usually part of her back story, mostly as a means to an ends (she wants to be an astronaut). When I was reading the comics she was more a experimental test pilot (so far, so green lantern) and I don't think she flew combat missions, but that might be different in the movie. This is part of a cinematic universe where at least one one of the following applies to most of the lead characters: cop, spy, soldier, billionaire, hereditory nobility.... so sure, guillotine the lot of them. Just not really seeing what people are finding particulary problematic about this trailer, especially given the existing universe it's part of.

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Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



kanonvandekempen posted:

What do you think those fighter jets were used for?

lol

edogawa rando
Mar 20, 2007

I think my mass effect is broken

Gravy Jones posted:

I think I'd be puzzled if people were having that argument based on a trailer that didn't have any racial slurs in it. What actually happens in the movie that people have an issue with? I don't know much about the plot and the trailer doesn't give much away.

In the comics the air force is usually part of her back story, mostly as a means to an ends (she wants to be an astronaut). When I was reading the comics she was more a experimental test pilot (so far, so green lantern) and I don't think she flew combat missions, but that might be different in the movie. This is part of a cinematic universe where at least one one of the following applies to most of the lead characters: cop, spy, soldier, billionaire, hereditory nobility.... so sure, guillotine the lot of them. Just not really seeing what people are finding particulary problematic about this trailer, especially given the existing universe it's part of.

Idiots complaining for the sake of it.

Moreau
Jul 26, 2009

The original Captain Marvel was my first comic book, and so I'm a little sad that he is not part of this - or at least, not like comic continuity. But we got Kree Starforce, Ronan, the Psyche-Magnetron... that's all pretty cool stuff, but even better is the possibility that they find a hook for Carol that really works. I really, really hope the movie does well - if only for that.

Also, the more Cosmic Marvel we get, the closer we get to a real Nova movie. My second comic book :)

Unoriginal Name
Aug 1, 2006

by sebmojo
The problem with the Captain Marvel trailer is a lack of tension. She has memory problems, I guess? It's one way to avoid having another bland MCU viillian I suppose, but is a PTSD take really any more new or interesting?

Mierenneuker
Apr 28, 2010


We're all going to experience changes in our life but only the best of us will qualify for front row seats.

She is obviously supposed to be super mysterious, after all she is gonna kick Thanos’ butt and we are going to wonder why she didn’t show up earlier!

...and they’ll probably spell everything out in the third trailer, because at that point they even want your grandma to go buy a ticket.

Mierenneuker fucked around with this message at 15:49 on Sep 19, 2018

Tim Whatley
Mar 28, 2010

Netflix decided to make a series out of Haunting of Hill House and it drops October 12

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9OzG53VwIk

scary ghost dog
Aug 5, 2007

Peanut President posted:

Why are you mad about this poo poo? It's a loving superhero, their entire job is to beat up mentally-ill people and minorities.

captain marvel beats up aliens

e: outer space aliens

Peanut President
Nov 5, 2008

by Athanatos

(and can't post for 8 days!)

scary ghost dog posted:

captain marvel beats up aliens

e: outer space aliens

so she's an imperialist

Schlonged Again
Jan 30, 2016

Ticket? Check. Popcorn, Milk Duds? Double check. Now to claim the center seat in the center row, settle in, and get triggered by some mirrored aviators.

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Vagabundo posted:

Idiots complaining for the sake of it.

:jerkbag:

Oh no, people engaging critically with media on a dead comedy sub forum that used to have “TURN YOUR BRAIN ON” in bold font at the top of the rules sheet. What a shame.

It’s not as if Marvel has a history with propagandizing for the military industrial complex, or anything.

Taintrunner fucked around with this message at 00:16 on Sep 20, 2018

BigglesSWE
Dec 2, 2014

How 'bout them hawks news huh!

The MSJ posted:

Guess who's back? Back again. Mary's back. Tell a friend.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3jsfXDZLIY

This is where I very shamefully have to admit that I haven't seen the first movie.

Dying to watch it, and this one as well. Love the retro animation.

feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004

Gravy Jones posted:

I think I'd be puzzled if people were having that argument based on a trailer that didn't have any racial slurs in it. What actually happens in the movie that people have an issue with?

the military is bad brah

SimonCat
Aug 12, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
College Slice

kanonvandekempen posted:

What do you think those fighter jets were used for?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northern_Watch

scary ghost dog
Aug 5, 2007

Peanut President posted:

so she's an imperialist

shes a space pinkerton

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

feedmyleg posted:

There's some really bizarre thinking going on in here. Just because a movie is a period piece or an action movie doesn't mean it's not beholden to the cultural sensitivities of the times in which it's made. If it were a 60s period piece and the protagonist was throwing around racial slurs you wouldn't say "uh its set in the 60s idiot that was normal back then".

No, you don't need to throw racial slurs around just because people used them casually in the time when your movie is set. You can, if you want, remake The Dambusters and change the name of the dog. But by the same token, you don't say "well the military-industrial complex is poo poo in 2018 therefore it has to be poo poo in this movie about the D-Day landings".

Jedit fucked around with this message at 00:46 on Sep 20, 2018

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours
That's the thing though, it was always poo poo.

ruddiger
Jun 3, 2004

Some trailers for some Beyond Fest premieres.

The Wind - frontier horror
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYb_0Bdsfno

Border - couldn't find an english trailer, but you can sus what's going on in the trailer, and considering the subject matter, works in it's favor if you don't know what they're saying.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMvYdo8cQcU

Shadow - samurai spooky ronin(?) period piece
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubrquR6i0WQ

Luz - no idea but it looks cool.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mNnw1z9fnM

The Nightshifter - a coroner hears and sees the dead
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwfJc9o66lE

Terrified - ghost hunters huntin' ghosts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Svhmi1wTs-A

ruddiger fucked around with this message at 19:09 on Sep 20, 2018

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Jedit posted:

No, you don't need to throw racial slurs around just because people used them casually in the time when your movie is set. You can, if you want, remake The Dambusters and change the name of the dog. But by the same token, you don't say "well the military-industrial complex is poo poo in 2018 therefore it has to be poo poo in this movie about the D-Day landings".

The military industrial complex became a thing after the Second World War. It was actually a big loving deal, to the point of President Eisenhower warning what a threat it was.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

Taintrunner posted:

The military industrial complex became a thing after the Second World War. It was actually a big loving deal, to the point of President Eisenhower warning what a threat it was.

Don't forget that Marvel tried to partner up with defense contractor Northrop Grumman at Comic Con one year and were even going to publish a comic about a team called NGEN (Northrop Grumman Elite Nexus) who helped the Avengers
https://variety.com/2017/biz/news/marvel-ends-partnership-defense-contractor-northrop-grumman-1202583463/
https://io9.gizmodo.com/heres-marvels-canceled-promo-comic-for-defense-contract-1819898744?IR=T

It was amazingly tone deaf

"Down with the man" :rolleyes:

Snowglobe of Doom fucked around with this message at 06:16 on Sep 20, 2018

whalestory
Feb 9, 2004

hey ya'll!

Pillbug

Hey this aint samurai!

Question Friend
Aug 3, 2018

by FactsAreUseless

kanonvandekempen posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moY78qMJuxM

Miss Marvel punches an old woman in the face.

Dull misogynists: She should smile more
Me, a sophisticated misogynist: She has too much vocal fry

Doctor Faustine
Sep 2, 2018

ruddiger posted:

Some trailers for some Beyond Fest premieres.

The Wind - frontier horror
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYb_0Bdsfno

This looks like “The Witch: Less Awesome Wild West Edition.” I’m here for it if it’s even half as good though. Period piece horror is my favorite horror.

edogawa rando
Mar 20, 2007

I think my mass effect is broken

Taintrunner posted:

:jerkbag:

Oh no, people engaging critically with media on a dead comedy sub forum that used to have “TURN YOUR BRAIN ON” in bold font at the top of the rules sheet. What a shame.

It’s not as if Marvel has a history with propagandizing for the military industrial complex, or anything.

Shut the gently caress up.

Punkin Spunkin
Jan 1, 2010

scary ghost dog posted:

captain marvel beats up aliens

e: outer space aliens
can you edit in spoiler tags please
goddammit

Gravy Jones
Sep 13, 2003

I am not on your side

Taintrunner posted:

It’s not as if Marvel has a history with propagandizing for the military industrial complex, or anything.


Hence my confusion over your "the top gun thing doesn't work in today's culture" take. What you're describing hasn't seemed to be a problem for any previous Marvel films, I don't think the audience particularly cares. I suspect there are a lot of people that do care about these things, still don't care about it in superhero films.

Have you avoided Marvel films in the past because of this? In general you seem to like a lot of action stuff, much of which is likely to be more overtly pro-military industrial complex than Captain Marvel will be. Just seems to be a disconnect between someone having a big issue with this in the trailer for Captain Marvel... yet apparently having paid to see Mile 22 in the cinema :shrug:

kiimo
Jul 24, 2003

I never stop being amazed at the trailer thread's ability to create fights.

Deakul
Apr 2, 2012

PAM PA RAM

PAM PAM PARAAAAM!

This thread is a danger zone.

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Vagabundo posted:

Shut the gently caress up.

Great contribution to the discourse, bub.

The MSJ
May 17, 2010

All your 1980s favorites and also Angela Basset.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcwmDAYt22k

kanonvandekempen
Mar 14, 2009

The MSJ posted:

All your 1980s favorites and also Angela Basset.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcwmDAYt22k

This kinda looks like it's what I wanted the transformers movies to be like, and it's directed by the guy who made Kubo and the two strings. For the first time ever I might be optimistic about a transformers movie.

The MSJ
May 17, 2010

Netflix's documentary about Orson Welles and his final movie The Other Side Of The Wind (which Netflix is releasing in November).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_kOsnGzfYY

zandert33
Sep 20, 2002

The MSJ posted:

Netflix's documentary about Orson Welles and his final movie The Other Side Of The Wind (which Netflix is releasing in November).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_kOsnGzfYY

Can't wait for November

Ammanas
Jul 17, 2005

Voltes V: "Laser swooooooooord!"
Bumblebee looks like absolute hot fire. Will be a smash. Taps all the buttons

The MSJ
May 17, 2010

Fantastic Beasts 2, where Dumbledore might actually be gay for Grindelwald and Voldermort's snake in the Harry Potter movies was a person(?).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFEofWMW0KM

kiimo
Jul 24, 2003

I don't think you need to spoil Dumbledore being gay and into Grindlewald.

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
🍀👽🆚🪖🏋

Johnny Depp goddamn sucks.

Mierenneuker
Apr 28, 2010


We're all going to experience changes in our life but only the best of us will qualify for front row seats.

kiimo posted:

I don't think you need to spoil Dumbledore being gay and into Grindlewald.

CelticPredator posted:

Johnny Depp [...] sucks.

Stuff is about to get kinkeh in the Wizarding World!

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
🍀👽🆚🪖🏋

You think Grindlewald is gonna smack around Dumbledore a bit?

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Slutitution
Jun 26, 2018

by Nyc_Tattoo

CelticPredator posted:

Johnny Depp goddamn sucks.

Thats what Dumbledore said.

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