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ratbert90 posted:I am getting my 3 on Saturday. I am excited! Already have a VIN! Nice, I get mine Friday! Which one did you choose? Edit: Nevermind, I checked your post history. We're getting the same car  When did you order? concise fucked around with this message at 16:22 on Sep 25, 2018 |
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concise posted:Nice, I get mine Friday! Which one did you choose? #Model3goonsquad  Audi is taking a page from GM and intentionally trying to not sell it's E-Tron: https://www.autoblog.com/2018/09/24/audi-e-tron-dealer-stock-retail/#slide-7425610 Shocking, I know. The E-Tron is so ugly, it's like the worst combo of a CUV / Wagon I could imagine. I generally love Audi designs. like they make some of the best looking cars around but the E-Tron is just fugly. VW recently showcased a cargo van based on the reto inspired Microbus they showed earlier this year. https://www.theverge.com/2018/9/20/17882400/vw-volkswagen-id-buzz-cargo-van-concept-electric Looks great, good specs. I hope they can delver, it's a cool platform. I would wait in line to get a new Microbus if it looks anything like the concept of course it won't, I'll probably get a Model Y by the time the bus is out
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concise posted:Nice, I get mine Friday! Which one did you choose? I ordered... 3 months ago? It wasn't too bad. Dual motor, Deep Blue Metallic, and Auto pilot. I'm in West Michigan, so I am taking the train from Grand Rapids to Chicago to pick it up on Saturday, then I am going to drive it back.
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stevewm posted:Welcome to the club! I just did this today, perfect fit and I can confirm the 2018 still has a tiny dinky rear end incandescent on the hatch.
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ratbert90 posted:I ordered... 3 months ago? It wasn't too bad. Make sure they have it charged up, surprisingly mine was lower than 1/2 when I went to pick it up, which I noticed when they were giving the tour. I asked him to plug it in while we did paperwork and other stuff, I'm surprised he didn't offer.
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Sep 25, 2018 20:12
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ratbert90 posted:Deep Blue Metallic Objectively correct.
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Subjunctive posted:Objectively correct. Yes. Next question, xpel stealth wrap?
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Subjunctive posted:Objectively correct.
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Warrior Princess posted:I just did this today, perfect fit and I can confirm the 2018 still has a tiny dinky rear end incandescent on the hatch. It sucks it's only available as 2 pack. Don't really have a use for the second one! The license plate light uses the same bulb, but I think that one might be a bit too bright for that purpose........
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concise posted:Yes. Next question, xpel stealth wrap? Wraps are good. But I will go with polish + ammo skin and wax. OldPueblo posted:Make sure they have it charged up, surprisingly mine was lower than 1/2 when I went to pick it up, which I noticed when they were giving the tour. I asked him to plug it in while we did paperwork and other stuff, I'm surprised he didn't offer. Thanks! That’s good to know!
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I've been considering a wrap for my precious chartreuse paint but I think the economics favors not doing it. I could protect the paint or I could just use that money to repair it if something happens.
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I'm starting to toy around with the idea of buying a Volt. Is there anything additional I'd have to do with my garage to charge? Are there better EV's I should be considering? I'm assuming it'd be economical even with electricity costs since I work less than 5 miles from home, I'd theoretically charge it once a week roughly. Edit: Basically school me on why this is/isn't a good idea
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You may already have 20 amp plugs in your garage which is more than enough to charge a volt. Regular 15 amp plugs are also fine.
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Endymion FRS MK1 posted:I'm starting to toy around with the idea of buying a Volt. Is there anything additional I'd have to do with my garage to charge? Are there better EV's I should be considering? I'm assuming it'd be economical even with electricity costs since I work less than 5 miles from home, I'd theoretically charge it once a week roughly. Don't buy Tesla. https://twitter.com/bobby_tips/status/1044711500764655616 https://twitter.com/MrHyd2000/status/1044661196266393600
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Elephanthead posted:You may already have 20 amp plugs in your garage which is more than enough to charge a volt. Regular 15 amp plugs are also fine. Oh interesting. I'll admit I don't know much about electrical work but I have family that can help identify that. Vincent Van Goatse posted:Don't buy Tesla. I've definitely gathered that. I'm not looking to spend a ton of money either. There's a few 2017s around for 22k
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Endymion FRS MK1 posted:Oh interesting. I'll admit I don't know much about electrical work but I have family that can help identify that. 20 just gives you a little more headroom and lets the charging cable pull slightly more. It'll still dribble in though.
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FilthyImp posted:If you go to your breaker box, the breakers themselves should have the amps listed. Ah. So how does this equate to the Level 1 and 2 charging I hear about? Having to take 12 hours to go to full isn't a only but knowing I can in 4.5 is nice
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If you don't need to go far, used 1st gen Leafs can be had fairly cheaply in some areas. You do need to check the battery health bars first though. As for charging... Both Gen1 and Gen2 Volts charge at a max of 12 Amps on a regular 120v plug. (1.4kW) This means a full charge will take around 11-12 hours, at least for Gen2... Gen1's had varying battery sizes depending on year. Things are much faster on 240v.. Gen 1 Volts (2011 to 2015) charge at 3.3kW. While Gen2 Volts (2016 and up) charge at 3.6kW. For Gen2, this means a full charge is 4.5 hours. 2019 Volts have a 7.2kW charger available as an option, which would cut full charge time to around 2.5 hours. "Level 1" charging is 120v charging using the common household outlet. "Level 2" is 240v charging. While "Level 3" would be DC fast charging, which the Volt does not support. stevewm fucked around with this message at 02:39 on Sep 26, 2018 |
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ratbert90 posted:I am getting my 3 on Saturday. I am excited! Already have a VIN! I really sincerely hope that you actually get a car and they don't do the bait and switch with VINs at the last minute that's been rampant these last few months
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Endymion FRS MK1 posted:I'm starting to toy around with the idea of buying a Volt. Is there anything additional I'd have to do with my garage to charge? Are there better EV's I should be considering? I'm assuming it'd be economical even with electricity costs since I work less than 5 miles from home, I'd theoretically charge it once a week roughly. I bought a 2018 volt 1 week ago today, the only thing I regret is not going full EV. This thing is a total gateway drug and I don't think I can ever ever ever own a non-electric car ever again. Realistically, the volt is 100% EV for me outside of roadtrips and it is everything I need. Every typical destination I have is within 50 miles of my house or less in my little rural tri-city area. There are no public charging stations I can rely on and all I have is my 120v 20-amp outdoor GFCI plug on the outside of my tiny little townhouse. I live in northeast Mississippi, in Starkville. The EV support in this region is nearly non-existent, so having the gas engine to fall back on when I need to is something I heavily factored into my purchase, but in hindsight it was probably unnecessary since a Volt and a 120v plug is supporting my lifestyle 100% as is. I drove over 200 miles to buy this car, and since returning from that roadtrip, my Volt hasn't touched gas once except where I made it do it when I was playing around with the various drive modes. The seats are incredibly comfortable to me, but I'm also the guy who drove a Ford Ranger for over a decade and thinks those seats were the best seats in the world. I seriously have no real world complaints about the car so far. Seriously that's my only regret with the chevy volt is that I didn't go full EV, and I'm in a practical dead-zone of EV support.
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You can usually find Spark EVs for $10k or less. 70-75 mile range (82 originally) I highly recommend it, if you can make it work for your situation.
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RZA Encryption posted:You can usually find Spark EVs for $10k or less. 70-75 mile range (82 originally) I second this. I love driving my wife's Spark EV when she needs the Model 3 for more people/cargo room. It's a fun car to rip around town. And they can do DC fast charging if you need to juice it up quick (make sure it has the option). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_k9mRYjj1w
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Ordered my DBM P3D+ on 8/14, picked it up 9/22. Mind blowingly good. It’s a loving magical ride, autopilot is eerily good, it’s faster than anything has any right to be, the visibility is incredible, and holy poo poo does Tesla know how to do interfaces. Basically if you can swing a Tesla, get a Tesla. Test drive one.
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Teslabjørn is doing some range tests on the i-Pace. On FB he's saying:quote:If you drive at 90 km/h and get some tail wind, 370 km with I-Pace is possible. WLTP range is 470 km. Estimated available energy is 80.8 kWh, not 84.7 kWh that I heard before. It seems to be thirstier for electrons than even the Model X. At 110 kph it does 249 Wh/km, vs Model X 216 Wh/km. Hopefully something that can be optimized through software. e: some more info regarding that net capacity: quote:I-Pace has a buffer on top. I guess it is 4 kWh. At 100 % on display, it still charges at 20 kW right before it finishes. And when I start driving, I can regen about half power. This means you can charge to 100 % daily without having to worry that the battery will degrade faster. 100 % on display seems to be 95 % true SoC. Ola fucked around with this message at 10:11 on Sep 26, 2018 |
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the poi posted:Ordered my DBM P3D+ on 8/14, picked it up 9/22. Mind blowingly good. It’s a loving magical ride, autopilot is eerily good, it’s faster than anything has any right to be, the visibility is incredible, and holy poo poo does Tesla know how to do interfaces. I wanted the performance at first, but couldn’t justify the cost for 1 more second off 0 - 60. 
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ratbert90 posted:I wanted the performance at first, but couldn’t justify the cost for 1 more second off 0 - 60. Honestly, the base config is already so quick you can get into any spot merging into a highway or whatever, and you can make any new passenger go “whoa!” coming away from a light. I traded my P90D for a friend’s 70D for a week and after a day I adapted and didn’t really miss it. I would still get a P for my next car if I could afford it, because my brain is broken, but it’s definitely an expensive toy with marginal result.
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Subjunctive posted:Honestly, the base config is already so quick you can get into any spot merging into a highway or whatever, and you can make any new passenger go whoa! coming away from a light. I traded my P90D for a friends 70D for a week and after a day I adapted and didnt really miss it. Yeah, I would have gone with just the RWD variant, but LOL Michigan winters. Only one more year and I am out! 
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^^^ Got a ride in a co workers new performance Model 3 and holy poo poo is it fast! But I'm still more then happy with my long range RWD, it's more them fast enough for any remotely legal driving I finally got my T-Sportline 18" turbine wheels. Was supposed to get them early July but they were delayed multiple times.  I'm not going to put them on until spring now, since I will bet getting snow tires in a few weeks. They do look great I hope the matte black stays looking good. I'm going with Nokian Hakkapeliitta R2 since the internet says they are the best and I have not had proper snow tires in 15 years due to having AWD or 4WD vehicles. Any other Tesla or ICE RWD winter car drivers have better suggestions? Has anyone heard of a ski / snowboard roof rack yet for the Model 3? I think Elon tweeted that one would be out before winter but LOL Elon time.
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Ola posted:Teslabjørn is doing some range tests on the i-Pace. On FB he's saying: Tesla optimizes for range much more than Jaguar did. The latter prioritized performance and a battery that doesn’t derate. Gamesguy posted:I had a current gen Jaguar, Audi's tech is literally miles ahead. Plus it's probably less likely to have electrical issues. The e-tron is based on the Q7, not the Q5. Interior space is about the same as a Q8 (which is also only a five-seater). I agree that the I-Pace is probably more compelling wrt performance, but the back seat in the e-tron has more legroom, and the Audi gets a much better infotainment system. MMI is probably the best in the industry at this point. Duck and Cover posted:
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spandexcajun posted:Any other Tesla or ICE RWD winter car drivers have better suggestions? R2s are very good when it's very cold, but not too good when it's above freezing and wet roads. Long braking distance, overly soft feel. If your winter temps have mild periods, check out the newer R3s, they are supposed to fix that issue. ContiVikingContact 6 and 7 are also very good in variable winters, not sure if they are sold in the US. Perhaps under another name.
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Ola posted:R2s are very good when it's very cold, but not too good when it's above freezing and wet roads. Long braking distance, overly soft feel. If your winter temps have mild periods, check out the newer R3s, they are supposed to fix that issue. ContiVikingContact 6 and 7 are also very good in variable winters, not sure if they are sold in the US. Perhaps under another name. It is not that cold here in Denver, I'll look at the 3s I did not know about them. Thanks!
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drgitlin posted:Tesla optimizes for range much more than Jaguar did. The latter prioritized performance and a battery that doesn’t derate. I'm not quite sure what derating is (not much of a car person), but my understanding is that Tesla batteries hold up quite well as they age. Are Jaguar's meaningfully better?
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I'm also quite unsure how any range optimization Tesla has done hampers performance or increases degradation. The P85D got much improved range through a software update IIRC, something with torque sleep.
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spandexcajun posted:^^^ Got a ride in a co workers new performance Model 3 and holy poo poo is it fast! But I'm still more then happy with my long range RWD, it's more them fast enough for any remotely legal driving Honestly you can't go wrong with Blizzaks. I had their performance snow ones on my Mx5 ages ago and they were excellent. I think the current designation is WS-80? I've got X-ices for my Prius and they're good but the "performance" aspect on them has never been tested.
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Finger Prince posted:Honestly you can't go wrong with Blizzaks. I had their performance snow ones on my Mx5 ages ago and they were excellent. I think the current designation is WS-80? I had always used Blizzaks in the past, they seem to be in the middle / bottom of internet winter tire review lists nowadays. I looked up, Tesla has stock / OEM winter tires "PIRELLI WINTER SOTTOZERO" They get ok reviews in dry / wet driving along with good reviews for the snow. Maybe I'll go that route. They all cost around the same amount. I have realized I'm over optimizing and pretty much any winter tire will probably be fine for me, but hey overthinking / overanalyzing is what internet car forums are all about!
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Subjunctive posted:I'm not quite sure what derating is (not much of a car person), but my understanding is that Tesla batteries hold up quite well as they age. Are Jaguar's meaningfully better? It’s not about battery longevity. If you drive a Tesla hard—say, on a race track—after a couple of laps the battery gets too hot and significantly limits your power. Jaguar wanted to make an EV that doesn’t do that, which is why it’s happy lapping race tracks. Tesla has also prioritized low drag much more than anyone else. A Model X has a Cd of 0.24; the e-tron with virtual mirrors is 0.27 and the I-Pace is 0.29.
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drgitlin posted:It’s not about battery longevity. If you drive a Tesla hard—say, on a race track—after a couple of laps the battery gets too hot and significantly limits your power. Jaguar wanted to make an EV that doesn’t do that, which is why it’s happy lapping race tracks. Oh, cool -- thanks!
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spandexcajun posted:It is not that cold here in Denver, I'll look at the 3s I did not know about them. Thanks! The General Altimax Arctic is usually a good budget buy and decent all rounder The Michelin X-Ice is also a good relatively inexpensive option
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