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I thought the story was simple, but just what they needed. In part to introduce a new cast of characters, but also because they were likely figuring on having a bunch of new viewers tuning in, and they needed to be able to immediately grasp what was going on. I'm sure they'll get to bigger scale things (although I hope they don't get as self-referential and obsessed with 'clever' ongoing puzzles as previous seasons) but this was a great basic foundation to build off.
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Oct 8, 2018 16:17
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The CGI on the worm ball was really good and far better than we've had in the past.
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Oct 8, 2018 16:18
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the award for most improved audio department goes to doctor who
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Oct 8, 2018 16:18
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I suppose when you are making two or three fewer episodes than usual, you have more to left over to spend on making the others look and sound better.
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Oct 8, 2018 16:27
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Counter to the guy earlier who said that this wasn't designed for new viewers, I disagree entirely. It was an hour long primer into the way Doctor Who works - weird stuff, conversations with a villain, working together, not killing if at all possible, improvising, etc. Did it introduce any of the lore? No. Which is a positive. I thought it tacked that stuff onto a very mundane episode, though. There were a few good moments (I liked the Doctor getting the relationship between the two things completely wrong, and then saying that she got it wrong, as an example of something we haven't seen much of recently) but all in all it was a mediocre version of Predator 2 with some cliches piled on top (that security guy had one day until retirement  ).The cliffhanger was great, mind.
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spog posted:
-this has been discussed ad nauseam -maybe its low key on purpose for empowerment reasons -spork real answer: -production would have definitely been aware of this. but its snazzy. also, gonna show my flatmates and friends the ep on the big wall projector tonight! can't wait to see the powerful ep in massive detail  e: Safeword posted:So why did the Doctor get all pissy at that guy for kicking Tim off the crane? Lampsacus fucked around with this message at 17:04 on Oct 8, 2018 |
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NowonSA posted:I mean, I'm kind of on board with a whole season built around the Doctor clawing her way back to her Tardis through all sorts of obstacles. Access to a Time Machine and all the tech inside it is a huge asset, I can't even count how many times it was integral to solving the big problem of the episode. If you told me it was half the time I'd believe you. Hmm. My sense is that it's probably more important in the new series generally and in Moffat's bit of it specifically. I don't have time right now for a complete survey and perhaps nobody else is interested. But here's a quick count of times the TARDIS was integral in a Fourth Doctor story: Planet of Evil (marginally), Pyramids of Mars (equipment), Hand of Fear (offering transport partially resolves problem, or at least moves it elsewhere), The Invisible Enemy (again, as much part of the complication as the solution, but still integral), Underworld, The Pirate Planet, The Stones of Blood (saving K-9), The Armageddon Factor (arguable), City of Death, Shada, Warrior's Gate (arguably), Logopolis (again, arguably). In terms of solving a problem, I'd count Pyramids, Hand of Feat, Invisible Enemy, Underworld, Pirate Planet, Stones of Blood, and City of Death. That's not a lot. I suspect the TARDIS solves problems in the new series in closer to 20% or fewer of episodes. They just tend to be blockbuster episodes or end of season episodes. Then again, there's lots more of the "materialize around people to protect them" stuff that the old series restricted because the Doctor could rarely pilot that precisely.
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Oct 8, 2018 17:29
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The Doctor melted a heckton of spoons down to make a new Sonic I'd be surprised if it wasn't phallic as a result
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Just got round to watching it: thought it was fine. Then again, on average I think Doctor Who's fine anyway, if wildly inconsistent. I'd still go with The Eleventh Hour as a better intro episode, but this was good. Presumably Tim Shaw is going to survive what happened to him anyway since he teleported away mid-fall, assuming his people have a cure for the DNA rewritey virus (and they may well do, otherwise why would the Doctor have bothered to give him back his recall switch?). Also the return of Northern accents, yay (and no-one being puzzled that the Doctor was from the North because nearly all of them were too  ).
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Vinylshadow posted:The Doctor melted a heckton of spoons down to make a new Sonic Why did that garage have such a big cutlery drawer? The plot holes have already started coming thick and fast
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Plavski posted:Why did that garage have such a big cutlery drawer? ...emergencies? https://twitter.com/bbcdoctorwho/status/1049219904673652736
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Oct 8, 2018 17:34
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Aww, Bradley Walsh really was brilliant; it's like we finally get the Doctor and Wilf Adventure Hour we'd always wanted.
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Davros1 posted:The theme with a trailer for this season's guest stars: Wait, Chris Noth? They get an actual American to (I'm assuming) play an American and not just get some to use a terrible American accent? I'm shocked. I wonder if it will take place in D.C., New York, or the dessert, where all American episodes take place. edit: Oh, and the episode was great. Feels like a whole new show. Can't wait for more. thrawn527 fucked around with this message at 17:59 on Oct 8, 2018 |
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The new sonic doesn’t look like a vibrator to me, but it does look like Cyberman tech. The closeup isn’t flattering though. It looks like a Monopoly piece machine mistake.
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thrawn527 posted:I wonder if it will take place in D.C., New York, or the dessert, where all American episodes take place. To be fair, those are the three basic types of america.
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thrawn527 posted:I wonder if it will take place in D.C., New York, or the dessert Cheesecake Factory it is!
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Matinee posted:Unfortunately, that episode seemed to confirm my biggest reservation about this series - that Chris Chibnall is absolutely nowhere near the writer that RTD or Moffat were in their prime - or even just their respective first eps as showrunner. Were it not for the fact it's a regen episode, I don't think the script would be memorable in any way, which is worrying, seeing as it's supposed to be Chibnall setting out his stall.
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SiKboy posted:To be fair, those are the three basic types of america. I want the Doctor to try and go to Disney World, but gets stuck trying to track down meth addicts in a run down Orlando suburb.
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twistedmentat posted:So, this is honestly the first time I've seen anything set in Sheffield. Like I honestly cannot remember it ever being in a movie or a show or whatnot. I've seen Norwich more than that. Isn't Depeche Mode from there?  The Full Monty (watch it) and When Saturday Comes (don't bother unless, like Sean Bean, you love a gallon of Magnet and a greasy chip butty)
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HD DAD posted:I want the Doctor to try and go to Disney World, but gets stuck trying to track down meth addicts in a run down Orlando suburb. As an Orlando resident...accurate. Also, I want this as well.
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Oct 8, 2018 18:48
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"The Doctor Does Disney" would be fantastic Probably cost an arm and a leg though
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thrawn527 posted:As an Orlando resident...accurate. Also, I want this as well. The Horror of
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thrawn527 posted:As an Orlando resident...accurate. Also, I want this as well.
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Trin Tragula posted:
And of course that fine travelogue Threads.
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The Doctor: It's like Space Florida!  *TARDIS lands in a trailer park where mostly snowbirds reside, festooned with US, UK, Canadian and Confederate flags; outside is a gas station where a group of locals is arguing loudly about pro wrestling. Out of nowhere, an elderly man strides down the street wearing nothing but a pair of sneakers*
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spog posted:
Welcome to your first SA Doctor Who Thread, you incredibly observant goon.
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Peeny Cheez posted:Chibnail Apposite, considering the thread title.
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Frankenstyle posted:I dunno. I was really looking forward to Jodie Whittaker because she's great in everything I've seen her in, and because I know there are a bunch of weirdos pearl clutching about a lady doctor. But the actual episode felt like a so-so monster of the week episode stretched into a two parter when it should have been more grand in scale as a introduction to a new Doctor. Filming it in modern day and building a single monster suit made it feel like they cheaped out on it. Plus the three companions were weirdly boring. JW was the only good thing about it. And she did well with what she was given to work with. But what she was given... Yikes. I had basically checked out of the show years ago before the end of Matt Smith's run and caught the odd episode here and there since. I figured I'd tune in because, hey, new Doctor, new show-runner, the intro episodes are usually pretty good, let's see what they came up with to get us excited. Oh no. I knew we were in trouble from the moment it started out with the utterly bizarre attempt at a heartwarming family thing centered around... a grown-rear end-man trying to learn to ride a bike? What? With a stepfather resentment angle thrown in for some reason? Is any of this going anywhere? So we follow around a bunch of supporting cast / presumably new companions who manage to collectively have less charisma than Martha Jones, and it's a half-assed monster-of-the-week romp with a zero effort monster and utterly unsatisfying answers to the mysteries it sets up. What's the mysterious artifact for? Oh, there's a generic baddie soldier guy in it with a costume straight out of LEXX. What's the tentacle electricity thing? Oh, it's just the soldier guy's scout probe. Why was the victim frozen? Because cold is the baddie's gimmick for no reason. Why do the victims have teeth missing? Because the villain guy is slapping them onto his face as trophies for no good reason in the most unintentionally hilarious reveal. The companions who are way too fine with all of this follow the Doctor around as eventually she solves everything by essentially saying "I magic reversed it when you weren't looking!" Also there are cranes for some reason. And then the main companion's mum dies because he needs a tragic backstory I guess, and it lets them try to subvert the YouTube intro bit you had completely forgotten about by this point but as soon as they cut back to it you immediately know where they're going with it and the "twist" isn't a surprise because it's as low-effort and ham-fisted as everything else in this episode. And then everyone teleports to space TUNE IN NEXT WEEK It was really, really bad. Has the quality of the show really slid this far? I liked Jodie, but god that was bad.
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It was terribly exciting seeing Sheffield bus station, which I'm about 10 years and 4,000 miles away from having seen last. It's the little things. Other than that, brilliant stuff.
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Entropic posted:the intro episodes are usually pretty good This is the strangest opinion in the thread
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MrL_JaKiri posted:This is the strangest opinion in the thread I think I'm mostly just remembering the Matt Smith one which was pretty great.
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Entropic posted:JW was the only good thing about it. And she did well with what she was given to work with. But what she was given... Yikes. The grown-rear end man trying to learn how to ride a bike is stated to have dyspraxia. I actually like the episode more after learning that "Tim" is a third-rate Predator carbon-copy that had to cheat his way through his hunt ritual, and collects trophies from weak, defenseless humans to presumably make himself try and look like a badass to his buddies back home.
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There are a few plots with an alien trying to find a human trophy, it's so common. I just wish they'd do something fun and different with it, like maybe the alien and his trophy end up in a scuffle with some third party on the way to the ship, the human fends well for himself and wins the alien's respect, opening the avenue for a compromise. By the time the Doctor arrives they've already agreed to something, like treating it like a fishing trip where after showing him off to his friends for a couple of days, then he'll "throw him back" or something.
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Entropic posted:I knew we were in trouble from the moment it started out with the utterly bizarre attempt at a heartwarming family thing centered around... a grown-rear end-man trying to learn to ride a bike? What? With a stepfather resentment angle thrown in for some reason? Is any of this going anywhere?
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Jerusalem posted:The Husbands of River Song in particular I didn't think was all that great but River's giant speech about the Doctor not loving her (followed by "Hello, Sweetie") and their final conversation together really hit hard. Yeah, that had me sobbing considering my recovery from my divorce. In fact, I'm tearing up right now thinking about it.
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Entropic posted:
It's always been this bad, dude. DW has always been a bad, but entertaining show with occasional honestly good stuff sprinkled in. But I agree with the DNA bomb stuff. "Oh, I just removed the macguffin threat 30 minutes ago off-screen. Whatever."
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I don't think the plotting is this episode's strong point, to be sure, but the plot does what it's meant to do and otherwise mostly stays out of the way, which I think is the way to go (especially after years of labyrinthine puzzle-box stories). (It's also essentially the same plot structure as The Eleventh Hour, and, for that matter, Rose.)
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