Todd Howard Says Fallout 76 is For "A Different Audience"quote:
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Oct 10, 2018 05:43
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Did he just call it a rust clone?
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Oct 10, 2018 05:44
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Tenzarin posted:Did he just call it a rust clone? Could be. There's a lot of rust in Fallout.
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Oct 10, 2018 05:45
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lol
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Oct 10, 2018 05:47
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God bless this mess. 
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Oct 10, 2018 05:52
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Nice backhanded compliment saying that true fallout fans only want isometric RPGs, Todd. Forgotten about New Vegas already.
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Oct 10, 2018 05:54
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Just make a game with a decent story they did it with morrowind and that morrowind dlc for skyrim.
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Oct 10, 2018 05:55
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Arcsquad12 posted:Nice backhanded compliment saying that true fallout fans only want isometric RPGs, Todd. Forgotten about New Vegas already. Who gives a gently caress about isometric? Just honor the established lore and you'd probably have a lot fewer pissed off Fallout fans Todd.
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Oct 10, 2018 05:58
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Or better yet, make completely new lore without needing to dredge up standbys like mutants ghouls and Brotherhood Bros each time you make a new game no matter how out of place they are. Fallout isn't or shouldn't be defined by the trademarked identifiable "FALLOUT THINGS" you find within it, but by its themes and its exploration of life beyond the apocalypse. War Never Changes, and neither has Bethesda. They've got a bad case of the Old World Blues where they've got it in their head that Fallout can only look back on the past, either in-universe with lol goofy skeleton poses and an obsession with ironic Americana, or in a meta sense where they keep returning to the same well of mutants power armor etc Arc Hammer fucked around with this message at 06:06 on Oct 10, 2018 |
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Oct 10, 2018 06:02
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The weird thing is, a game set right after the war was interesting as a setting. It would give them a lot of freedom to explore new areas and new history, and even crazy stuff could've been explained away as far in history and geography to "present day fallout" but instead they gotta do this weird thing apparently.
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Oct 10, 2018 06:07
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Arcsquad12 posted:Or better yet, make completely new lore without needing to dredge up standbys like mutants ghouls and Brotherhood Bros each time you make a new game no matter how out of place they are. That's the exact same argument. None of those things should exist
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Oct 10, 2018 06:18
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Azhais posted:That's the exact same argument. None of those things should exist They shouldn't exist but they do because otherwise people might think this game about people in skintight vault suits and pipboys might not be a Fallout game.
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Oct 10, 2018 06:25
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A game dependent on lore to tell the story is throwing out other parts of its own lore so they don't have to bother their designers (who are probably hard at work on designing the next real Bethesda game) This is basically ESO for Fallout, except I'm going to play this one because I have no self respect 👀
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Oct 10, 2018 06:25
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Donovan Trip posted:A game dependent on lore to tell the story is throwing out other parts of its own lore so they don't have to bother their designers (who are probably hard at work on designing the next real Bethesda game) I want to like a half PVP half co-op focused fallout but they keep gimping pvp to an insane degree and the story seems like its going to be...unserviceable. Remove the murderer penalty system, make pvp simply opt in or opt out, and lock some pvp vanity exclusive stuff behind it as an incentive to play pvp enabled mode instead of "hey it'll take you a few minutes to kill a guy that refuses to engage, and not only can he fast travel away while you hit him but if you kill I'm you get gimpee by the game" Shitty Wizard fucked around with this message at 06:41 on Oct 10, 2018 |
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Oct 10, 2018 06:38
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lovely Wizard posted:lock some pvp vanity exclusive stuff behind it as an incentive to play pvp this might already be the case. there are pvp exclusive special events/quests.
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Oct 10, 2018 06:52
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this game is gonna be okay, i'm gonna play it a bunch, and a throng of mentally ill fallout: new vegas fanatics will have more posts combined about f76 sucking than the rest of the thread combined and it will be lmao
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Oct 10, 2018 07:11
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Starks posted:https://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2018/10/09/boy-does-fallout-76s-real-time-vats-system-look-terrible/#3aa2977a2fea lol Forbes does video game reviews? Bwahahahahahahaha. I love this idiotic timeline.
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Oct 10, 2018 07:14
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almost anyone can 'write' for forbes now. the forbes website is largely just an article mill.
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Oct 10, 2018 07:17
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How many times will I have to tell people to stop falling for Cream-of-Plenty's fanfictions? How many times?
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Oct 10, 2018 07:24
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Fair Bear Maiden posted:How many times will I have to tell people to stop falling for Cream-of-Plenty's fanfictions? How many times? you don't have to
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Oct 10, 2018 07:26
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A 50S RAYGUN posted:this game is gonna be okay, i'm gonna play it a bunch, and a throng of mentally ill fallout: new vegas fanatics will have more posts combined about f76 sucking than the rest of the thread combined and it will be lmao But I enjoyed the Bethesda Fallout games too, and from what I've seen I'll have a great deal of fun with this one. Possibly more fun than I had with 3 or 4, because lonely environmental storytelling was the best thing about those games, and it seems to be what this one is all about. I will do my best to represent my opinions in a respectful way in this very charged thread. There's no need to put any extra effort into getting people's hackles up. They're pretty raised by default. I don't think anyone is mentally ill for disliking a game. There's probably more fun or productive things to do than go on and on about how bad something is on the internet, but the way you put it seems more intent on stirring the pot than anything else.
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Oct 10, 2018 07:29
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maybe use your high-level cognition to realize you are not the type of person i am talking about, but instead maybe literally any one of fifteen different interchangable weirdos whose primary goal in online interactions seems to be screaming at people about how they Enjoy The VIdeo Game
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Oct 10, 2018 07:49
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Every star wars movie is going to have revels and the empire and a death star, no matter the timeline. And is a sad waste of a setting and ultimatelly will kill the interest of the public. The same thing operater here with BoS. Anyway not everything is bad news, theres original creation mixed with the reuse of ideas. I loved that funny looking toad and zombie hivemind id interesting. Like a zerg faction on the fallout universe.
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Oct 10, 2018 08:00
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Eiba posted:I can understand people still not being on board with the concept of a MMO Fallout and some of the dumb always-online bullshit. Personally this is my biggest grief since there is no winning scenario here. If this MMO Fallout bombs, it means that there will be a failed major product in the Fallout franchise, so the next triple A-game of the series will be made sometime after the next ice age. If this is succeeds, there will never be another single player-focused Fallout game. And I personally hate MMO's and their micro payments and the forced player interaction stuff. I play games to take my mind off my work, not to listen/watch some rear end hat yell abuse in the chat or some weirdo get angry because our team brought assblaster +7, when he specifically wanted everyone to take assblaster +8 or better and now everything is ruined. And I need to collect 5000 moose asses or pay 4.5 Eur to get the assblaster updated.
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Oct 10, 2018 10:17
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Der Kyhe posted:Personally this is my biggest grief since there is no winning scenario here. If this MMO Fallout bombs, it means that there will be a failed major product in the Fallout franchise, so the next triple A-game of the series will be made sometime after the next ice age. If this is succeeds, there will never be another single player-focused Fallout game. Yeah neither one of those things are true
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Oct 10, 2018 10:21
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 A reminder that this was the last Fallout before Bethesda sought out the IP.
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Oct 10, 2018 10:33
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I just watched some of the recent gameplay videos and it looks loving boring.
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Oct 10, 2018 10:39
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Game looks like jankier Fallout 4, with the rpg elements even more stripped out (which is kind of annoying cause as much as I think Fallout 4 wasn't great it was still an improvement over 3 and Skyrim and had some legit gold in there) and multiplayer that seems both too intrusive to ignore and too toothless to enjoy. Also no mods, no private servers and a reliance on Bethesda to fix poo poo. Like if they'd just gone all in on Fallout 4 RUST I'd be happier. Also I mean , it looks like loving rear end and runs worse. Game looking that ugly and backward and running that badly under ideal conditions is an impressive level of laziness. Rinkles posted:you don't have to I don't know, the fact that people keep trying to spoil it and it STILL keeps happening kinda makes it better.
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Oct 10, 2018 10:39
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Fallout 4 is my favourite fallout and watching some of these videos makes me think I could get quite a bit of fun out of this game. I especially love the redone UI. It looks utterly gorgeous and clean and I am all about that kind of stuff 
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Oct 10, 2018 11:11
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my question is whether or not I'll get to enact my usual Fallout strategy in 76 which is, do all the drugs/booze then facetank a deathclaw or whatever I've not watched enough videos yet to tell if "master of drug eating" is a viable play style also I agree they should just ditch VATs entirely if the alternative is... uh, what it is
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Oct 10, 2018 11:27
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Apparently, you will not be able to do that. The reports are that only one drug's effects will be valid at a time.
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Oct 10, 2018 11:42
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Although that does seem like it would be a perfect opportunity for a perk card.
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Oct 10, 2018 11:44
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Epicurius posted:Apparently, you will not be able to do that. The reports are that only one drug's effects will be valid at a time. well that loving blows it might still be okay if a.) making chems is not ridiculous b.) weird amalgam chems like psychobuff are still in c.) there's chem-related perks but if I can't play Doctor Florida Man and sell drugs to the community my enthusiasm will deplete considerably
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Oct 10, 2018 11:48
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A 50S RAYGUN posted:maybe use your high-level cognition to realize you are not the type of person i am talking about, but instead maybe literally any one of fifteen different interchangable weirdos whose primary goal in online interactions seems to be screaming at people about how they Enjoy The VIdeo Game No one’s screaming here champ, just posting
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Oct 10, 2018 11:54
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*hates modern fallout, looks up stream of coop fallout* this is loving DUMB?!!
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Oct 10, 2018 12:25
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if they were honest they would have made a fallout fortnite/dayz clone. this rust clone with a fallout coat of paint is a really souless cash grab
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Oct 10, 2018 12:44
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DoctorGonzo posted:if they were honest they would have made a fallout fortnite/dayz clone. this rust clone with a fallout coat of paint is a really souless cash grab How is one more soul less than the other? Howard is even saying it's not a true to form fallout but more like a rust/dayz thing. There's no hidden cash grabbing thing going on not more so than usual
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Oct 10, 2018 12:51
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What I never got about Fallout 4 was Todd Howard was pretty open about how it was impossible to write a good story for a sandbox game because players in a sandbox game just love to gently caress around, try and kill key story people, wander in and out of the plot, etc. -which looking at what New Vegas managed to do with it's story I sort of disagree, but I can see where he's coming from- so then why did they put such a melodramatic plot in there with the stolen son and everything... it just seemed such a weird choice to make coming in with that mindset. While I'm still not to keen on the whole vibe of 76 in general, as multiplayer isn't really my thing anymore, I actually quite like they've just committed to far a full on sandboxy starting plot line of 'oh, hey were letting you out of the vault now, go try and make this crappy post-apocalyptic world just a bit less crappy'. Generic as hell, but hey, if it works, it works.
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Oct 10, 2018 12:57
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Glenn Quebec posted:How is one more soul less than the other? Howard is even saying it's not a true to form fallout but more like a rust/dayz thing. There's no hidden cash grabbing thing going on not more so than usual Again, Cream Of Plenty writes fakeposts and then links to random unrelated news articles. I don't know if he's doing this as a point about how no one reads articles but it's annoying how many people don't do even the most basic followup.
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Oct 10, 2018 13:04
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New Vegas story wasn't that hot. I just enjoyed the western vibe it had. It went well with the post apoc theme. I will say that the factions are a magnitude more interesting then the loving minutemen with their scooty puff jr. guns. Or the underground railroad for robots oooof.
Ichabod Tane fucked around with this message at 13:08 on Oct 10, 2018 |
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Oct 10, 2018 13:06
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