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Also we have ~10 years to address climate change or a bunch of us are going to die. To no one’s surprise this resonates with young people.
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It's amazing to see AOC getting the poo poo-stream that is the right wing hate machine hose sprayed at her screaming "OMG SOCIALISTIC SOCIALIST OF SOCIALISM AND SOCIAL", and her response is just, "loving yeah, so what? People want health care and poo poo. If that's your idea of socialism then let's social it up in here"
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bird food bathtub posted:It's amazing to see AOC getting the poo poo-stream that is the right wing hate machine hose sprayed at her screaming "OMG SOCIALISTIC SOCIALIST OF SOCIALISM AND SOCIAL", and her response is just, "loving yeah, so what? People want health care and poo poo. If that's your idea of socialism then let's social it up in here" They hate her for a couple of reasons, but this is definitely why they're absolutely confused by her. For decades calling anyone on the left a socialist was a huge insult that the accused had to distance themselves from. She embraces it and they don't know what to do.
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Nov 18, 2018 05:50
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M_Gargantua posted:Also: Uh I don't think that word means what you think it does, accelerationism is intentionally voting for the "old white dude conservatives" and fascists because the workers need to hosed over as hard as possible so they'll rise up and also as punishment for not doing so earlier.
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Nov 18, 2018 06:25
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Pelosi is the one that said that the Dems should strive for bipartisanship and common ground after they win the House, right? lo loving l
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Casimir Radon posted:She doesn't even have experience as a congresswoman yet. Save the hero worship for someone with an actual track record. Can I still hero worship Tammy Duckworth?
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:Can I still hero worship Tammy Duckworth?
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C.M. Kruger posted:Uh I don't think that word means what you think it does, accelerationism is intentionally voting for the "old white dude conservatives" and fascists because the workers need to hosed over as hard as possible so they'll rise up and also as punishment for not doing so earlier. Actually its pushing for rapid radical change, either by speeding the collapse of the existing system and hence leaving people with no options BUT said change, or by empowering those who will use that power to force what change they change they can right the hell now. Related to: Nostalgia4Infinity posted:Also we have ~10 years to address climate change or a bunch of us are going to die. To no one’s surprise this resonates with young people.
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Nov 18, 2018 06:43
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:Also we have ~10 years to address climate change or a bunch of us are going to die. To no one’s surprise this resonates with young people. Personally I give it 3-5 decades before we're living inside some sort of nihilistic Cormac McCarthy fever dream a la The Road, only instead of overcast there will be more wildfires and catastrophic flooding of coastal cities.
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I think AOC is great and has a bright future in the party. I also think that pushing for her (or any freshman congressperson) to be speaker immediately is exceptionally dumb. Like, forget the legislation itself—the biggest part of being a leader of a legislative caucus is to get people to vote for things they absolutely do not want to vote for. They've got to be able to convince, to browbeat, or to bribe 230+ people who don't like each other to all vote the same way, as well as managing the business of the House so that only the things they want to be voted on actually come up for a vote. A good speaker isn't someone who comes up with legislation on their own. A good speaker is someone who, once they have good legislation in their hands, can walk up to a representative, physically back them into a corner, and force them to commit to a vote on the spot. poo poo, here's what Lyndon Johnson did over in the Senate: quote:The Treatment could last ten minutes or four hours. It came, enveloping its target, at the Johnson Ranch swimming pool, in one of Johnson's offices, in the Senate cloakroom, on the floor of the Senate itself—wherever Johnson might find a fellow Senator within his reach. Controlling a caucus is hard. It takes iron will, dedication, and the ability to be a real son-of-a-bitch to force someone to vote for something they know will lose them reelection. Paul Ryan couldn't do it. Neither could John Boehner. Pelosi could.
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Nov 18, 2018 07:14
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We should all rally behind Pelosi because she can whip representatives into voting against their wishes like I dunno, Single Payer Healthcare
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Nov 18, 2018 07:40
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Eej posted:We should all rally behind Pelosi because she can whip representatives into voting against their wishes like I dunno, Single Payer Healthcare public option passed the house in 2010
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Nov 18, 2018 07:43
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Public option isn't single payer and Pelosi has said she doesn't want to talk abour the latter
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Eej posted:We should all rally behind Pelosi because she can whip representatives into voting against their wishes like I dunno, Single Payer Healthcare If the President in 2021 wants single payer and Pelosi is still Speaker, I have no doubts she would force it through the House.
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:Also we have ~10 years to address climate change or a bunch of us are going to die. To no one’s surprise this resonates with young people. if you count syrian peeps and almost caro then a bunch of us are dying (or rotting away in a syrian prison for years until john kerry negotiates our release) climate change war is present and past tense, too
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Eej posted:Public option isn't single payer and Pelosi has said she doesn't want to talk abour the latter Yeah she didn't want to talk about the green new deal either until people showed up and forced the issue
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Nov 18, 2018 07:56
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M_Gargantua posted:Actually its pushing for rapid radical change, either by speeding the collapse of the existing system and hence leaving people with no options BUT said change, or by empowering those who will use that power to force what change they change they can right the hell now. In practice this means "uh sorry minorities but you deserve to be murdered since you didn't vote for bernie  "Like I said, the intent is to punish the proletariat for not being sufficiently revolutionary via enabling fascists. It's collaborationism plain and simple.
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Its not just about Pelosi, the democratic party needs a complete change over the next 2-6 years, and dipshit boomers that are OK with supporting gay rights but get really loving upset when affordable housing threatens their propery value currently control the democratic party and that has to change.
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45 ACP CURES NAZIS posted:Its not just about Pelosi, the democratic party needs a complete change over the next 2-6 years, and dipshit boomers that are OK with supporting gay rights but get really loving upset when affordable housing threatens their propery value currently control the democratic party and that has to change. Don't forget my retirement stocks 
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tfw you support the gays but you're very upset because your family had just moved manufacturing to turkey
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Nov 18, 2018 11:42
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Hey guess who wrote Trumps effusive health letter in 2015? http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-43970908 It was Trump.
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Nuclear Tourist posted:Personally I give it 3-5 decades before we're living inside some sort of nihilistic Cormac McCarthy fever dream a la The Road, only instead of overcast there will be more wildfires and catastrophic flooding of coastal cities. If you read the book there is plenty of wildfire.
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:Hey guess who wrote Trumps effusive health letter in 2015? Nah, it was Zoidberg. https://youtu.be/wHIjmGoSSow
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Eej posted:Pelosi is the one that said that the Dems should strive for bipartisanship and common ground after they win the House, right? Not quite. She started on election day before they won the House.
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I'm not quite advocating AOC for speaker just yet, since being speaker is a very different thing. But the democrats need a bench, they need more outspoken people, and they need to be outspoken about poo poo people actually want to hear. Popping on CNN every time there's a mass shooting and saying that something needs to be done about it doesn't resonate nearly with as many people as it should. But get someone that's telling people 'you're getting hosed and that's not right' and 'branding' democratic socialism in opposition of the right wing talking points is exactly what needs to be done right now. And that's exactly what's being done, and both parties are dealing with it like some form of drug resistant disease so far. The right is in many cases literally spitting out AOC's platform word for word expecting outrage, and the left is having to defend against it basically saying that they're ok with people getting hosed over.
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:Hey guess who wrote Trumps effusive health letter in 2015? It's weird that article refers to "Mr." Bornstein, a physician. A UK thing?
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IIRC there's a whole shitstorm over titles for what qualifies as "Dr." in the EU and most countries don't recognize MDs as doctors, but rather as physicians.
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Surgeons in the UK go by “Mr.”, physicians go by “Dr.” ...it’s an old thing dating back to when barbers did surgeries.
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FrozenVent posted:Surgeons in the UK go by “Mr.”, physicians go by “Dr.” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewFg5wUvkGI That Works fucked around with this message at 18:07 on Nov 18, 2018 |
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Icon Of Sin posted:Nah, it was Zoidberg. ...m-o-u-s-e
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FrozenVent posted:Surgeons in the UK go by “Mr.”, physicians go by “Dr.” Berber surgeons? Now I’ve heard it all.
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Woof Blitzer posted:Berber surgeons? Now I’ve heard it all. Watch or pirate The Knick and you'll see how hardcore that poo poo is in one of the later episodes.
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FrozenVent posted:Surgeons in the UK go by “Mr.”, physicians go by “Dr.” shave and a haircut, no legs
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Woof Blitzer posted:Berber surgeons? Now I’ve heard it all. Barbers used to perform surgery back in Elizabethan times (and I guess before). It's where the red and white barber pole comes from: they'd hang the blood stained linens outside of their shops. psydude fucked around with this message at 18:51 on Nov 18, 2018 |
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Nov 18, 2018 18:48
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Nobody noticed the Berber joke...
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Nobody knows what a Berber is.
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Godholio posted:Nobody knows what a Berber is. Take a history course chump!
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Woof Blitzer posted:Nobody noticed the Berber joke... I assumed it was an autocorrect issue, because it seems like these days it always picks the least applicable word for a specific sentence.
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